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Frank discussion re our loss to Obama/Romney and the future direction of FR and tea party movement
Click here to pledge your support! ^ | May 4, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 05/04/2012 6:31:27 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

My FRiends, we might as well face the reality that we the combined pro-life conservative movement and tea party coalition have lost this round (the presidential election) in the larger battle to reclaim our constitution and our inalienable rights. Rove, Romney and the GOP-e have successfully destroyed and driven off each and every pro-life conservative tea party candidate from the race and all have surrendered to the Romney camp. It is no secret that Romney is not one of us. There is absolutely no doubt that he has never accomplished a single conservative thing in his entire political career (one term as liberal governor of liberal Massachusetts and six years campaigning for president). In Massachusetts, he undeniably championed abortion, gay rights, global warming, gun control, big government statist mandated/socialized health care programs, liberal judges, TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending, debt limit increases, etc, and even though he's recently claimed a complete reversal in political beliefs and no longer despises pro-life conservatives or the time of Reagan-Bush, I still don't trust him. He still stubbornly holds on to some of his statist beliefs, like global warming, gays in the military, RomneyCare, stimulus spending, etc, so there is no way I can vote for him or join Cain, Perry, Bachmann, Newt or any others who are endorsing him. But I will not act on my prior promises that I would actively campaign against him if he wins the nomination. Our combined movement is already torn and splintered and is going to have to be mended if we're going to have any impact whatsoever against the liberal/progressives and statists after the election. To that end I propose a TRUCE among our conservative forces during the remainder of this election cycle.

We conservatives have already lost the presidency to either the Dems or the GOP-e, and if we tear the tea party apart, if we tear the pro-life movement apart, if we tear FR apart then we lose it all. It's far more important that we re-unite and live to fight another day. Even if we can't vote for a true conservative for the presidency, it's doubly important that we all turn out on election day or sooner and drag our friends, neighbors, relatives, co-workers, etc, to the polls to vote straight conservative for every slot on our ballots. The only way we can win our freedom back is to vote out the liberal progressives and vote in as many liberty loving conservatives as is humanly possible into every elected office at every level of government all across this great land. To prevent a total loss to the dems or GOP-e, we must continue the tea party rebellion into November and beyond. Whatever else you may do, you must turn out and vote straight tea party conservative down ticket!!

We must continue expanding our inroads into the state houses and into every elective office in the land. We must continue building on our majority in the house and we must retake the senate!! We must help the conservative governors and state legislatures to fully restore the ninth and tenth amendments and reclaim the real political power away from the federal usurpers and return it to the states and the people per the constitution!! This way, regardless of who wins the presidency, we can cut his unconstitutional expansionist movements off at the knees. And if any executive, civil officer or judge dares commit impeachable offenses, we must hold the majorities so we can impeach and remove them from office!!

And we must salvage and rebuild and continue strengthening our conservative pro-life, pro-family, pro-gun, pro-borders, pro-constitution, pro-small government, pro-defense, pro-liberty movements and our tea party coalition. And we must stop ripping each other apart!!

Therefore I hereby propose a general truce among our conservative forces!!

The Republic we save may be our own!!

As far as FR's finances go, we're in the same boat as the rest of the economy and will have to make do with what we can raise. Fortunately, the big debts we ran up a couple years ago have been paid off. We borrowed approx $20,000 a few years ago from two FReepers to fund our national convention, plus we ran up another $20,000 in legal fees during the last couple of years fighting off Righthaven. But those are now behind us and paid off. We also did quite a bit of traveling each year for the last three years on cross country tea party tours, but I think we can now cut that back and remove it from our budget requirements. If we're fortunate enough to not incur any additional legal costs or equipment costs (other than what we've already planned), and cut the travel and a few other areas, we should be able to tighten our belts enough to weather the storm even if we fail to reach our short term fundraising goals.

Whatever the outcome of the elections, we are prepared to roar into 2013 with the tea party chewing up liberal/progressives and RINOs and raising hell in our never ending fight for liberty!!

We are the resistance!!

Let's take the enemy head-on instead of fighting each other!!

Damn the torpedoes, full steam ahead!!


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To: Jim Robinson
And we must salvage and rebuild and continue strengthening our conservative pro-life, pro-family, pro-gun, pro-borders, pro-constitution, pro-small government, pro-defense, pro-liberty movements and our tea party coalition. And we must stop ripping each other apart!!

Foremost among that excellent enumeration of core Conservative principles is pro-God. It is only through Our Creator that America became the birthplace of Liberty. And it was the wisdom of our Founding Father guaranteed the Freedom of We the People though an armed citizenry.


461 posted on 05/04/2012 10:13:54 AM PDT by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: Longbow1969
The idea that we should tear down the Republican nominee, lackluster though he may be, is a very fringe position among conservatives.

It is worse than that. There is thread after thread anymore trashing solid Conservatives, in the most vile way, just for supporting Romney. The Bachmann thread a couple days ago comes to mind. She was called a whore and it was left to stand. This has to stop or there will be no limit to the level of destruction going on here.

462 posted on 05/04/2012 10:14:20 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Jim Robinson

It is very important that we still watch what Romney says NOW, and point out where he is faltering from his own promises, and work to hold his feet to the fire. By not being openly antagonistic, it may help to get a better VP candidate, but we need to be critical when he makes current statements that are at odds with the conservative principles he’s been claiming to follow.

I do think it would be helpful now if we had fewer daily posts attacking Romney for his past positions — we all know what he did wrong, and it won’t help beat Obama to keep bringing up the past.


463 posted on 05/04/2012 10:15:02 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Jim Robinson
Very wise, as always.

I'm behind you 100% on this, JR.

464 posted on 05/04/2012 10:15:09 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

Sadly, that is very true. My first POTUS election was in 1992. In 1996, I was a delegate to the CA state convention. All I have seen is the GOP pushing conservatives to the fringe and more and more just bending over and taking it.

I voted for McCain (held my nose) and that was the last time.

I’m done with the GOP. I will put my money, time and energy to back a party that agrees with my beliefs rather than marginalizes them.


465 posted on 05/04/2012 10:15:19 AM PDT by reaganaut (VAB! Voting against both Romney and Obama. Constitution party, here I come!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Thank you!


466 posted on 05/04/2012 10:15:49 AM PDT by Tribune7 (Oh, the irony)
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To: icwhatudo

Aw man, I’m puking from looking at those pictures.


467 posted on 05/04/2012 10:15:58 AM PDT by wastedyears (There can be only one.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I am with you Jim. I can’t vote for a liberal democrat in republican clothing aka Romney. But will do all I can to vote conservatives into office.


468 posted on 05/04/2012 10:16:09 AM PDT by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
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To: central_va
My guess is that the ABO’s on Free Republic are women majority, and the no Romney no way’ers are men majority.

Might be because woman have a built in "need" for a sense of security....they "feel" more secure voting for Romney.

Men are moreso Protectors and fighters...in order to provide that security...and with it Risk...

I'm a woman and 'I'm voting against them both'.

469 posted on 05/04/2012 10:16:37 AM PDT by caww
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To: unique1
We need to listen to the people that have already passed judgement relating the Ron Paul. He simply isn't POTUS material, according to voters. Why didn't he run for Senator in your state?

He didn't run for senator in my state because I live in Missouri. : )

Don't forget the majority of people who voted in the 2008 election gave us BO.

If we can support Romney, why can't we support Paul - especially in upcoming primaries where giving him more delegates has the possibility of stopping Romney at the convention?

470 posted on 05/04/2012 10:17:17 AM PDT by MSSC6644 (Defeat Satan: pray the Rosary.)
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To: reaganaut; Yashcheritsiy

“If conservatives were really as worthy as we like to thump our chest and point to ourselves as being...”

There’s no shortage of that.


471 posted on 05/04/2012 10:17:23 AM PDT by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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To: Jim Robinson
If you can't vote for Romney do what you can to pump turnout for the down ticket races.

I am going to do what it takes to fire 0 -- and that means at this point voting for Mitt.

I respect your decision though.

472 posted on 05/04/2012 10:17:58 AM PDT by Tribune7 (Oh, the irony)
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To: reaganaut

“If you have already decided to vote for Romney in the general you are PRO-Romney.”

The supreme irony of these pro-Romney “conservatives” is that they don’t realize they’re using the same broken logic as the “pro-choice” movement to justify an insane position: they claim that they’re not actually in favor of the action, but they support it anyway.


473 posted on 05/04/2012 10:18:50 AM PDT by Cato in PA (1/26/12: Bloody Thursday)
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To: presently no screen name
Oh you?

Get poise and stop trying to ruin the truce!

474 posted on 05/04/2012 10:19:37 AM PDT by fml
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To: reaganaut; betty boop; Jim Robinson; xzins; LS; Bigun; P-Marlowe

Just being blunt about it, Reaganaut, we don’t despise abortion as much as the abolitionists of their era despised slavery.

We accept a 2 week or a 12 week old pre-born being sliced and diced, or we accept a bastard pre-born from some faulty union being sliced and diced, but we don’t really rail against it. In fact, we vote for it, apparently.

The abolitionists would have been better, I suppose, to have insisted on 40 hours of free time per week for each slave.

Then they could have rested easy.

The didn’t think of that, so they went all out and formed a new party.

That is my only moral, purposeful choice. To vote for conservatives up and down the ticket is the right thing. Jim is right about that. I’ll do that.

But, I’ll also vote Goode for President, since he is the conservative in the race.

However, that vote truly is cast out of futility if I don’t couple that vote with a real purpose. Somehow that vote must be intended for a greater end. That greater end can only be the intention to build a new vehicle for conservatives that has a real chance to win presidential elections.

I am not into casting symbolic votes. I need a real purpose behind my vote. It must be cast as my opening round in the fight to secure a new political home for my conservative beliefs.


475 posted on 05/04/2012 10:19:51 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Obama Disses the Operators Who Took Out Bin Laden in Afghan!)
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To: NFHale; Yashcheritsiy; reaganaut; betty boop; Jim Robinson; xzins; LS; Bigun; P-Marlowe; ...
Great post, NFHale.

Thank you so very much!

476 posted on 05/04/2012 10:19:51 AM PDT by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through the eye. — William Blake)
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To: Finny

>>>”If they see Romney rejected in the General because of his liberalism and in spite of the specter of Obama as a consequence, just WATCH as those Rs “grow a pair” in order to save their own skins. It will have been proven clearly to Republicans in DC that being “moderate” or “liberal” is dangerous for their political health.

On the other hand, if Romney wins, they will have every reason to think it will behoove them to move “to the center,” and Democrats will be hailed and praised for being so nobly bi-partisan when supporting Romney in his quest to “fix” ObamaCare to be more like what he continues to maintain is successful RomneyCare in MA; come up with the “right kinds” of cap-and-trade global warming regulation to “save the planet” and “be responsible”; going full-bore to force acceptance of open homosexuality in the military; making sure that we “compassionate” Americans will make abortion available on-demand to “poor” women who otherwise couldn’t afford it; and appointing activist liberal judges to “adjust” laws properly for the most control over personal freedoms. THAT IS ROMNEY, and Democrats will look fabulously broad-minded for reaching across the aisle to support his progressive “enlightenment.” No matter what you think you’d be voting against, THAT is what you’d be voting FOR.

People have given a lot of thought to what would happen if Obama won, and have done it in a vacuum; now, they should give serious, honest thought to what would happen if Romney wins. The consequences would be, IMO, more dire.”<<<

This ^^

Now, is not the time to surrender to the progressives in the GOP.


477 posted on 05/04/2012 10:20:02 AM PDT by myself6
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To: oldmomster
to preserve the republic

Romney is NOT going to preserve the republic. You do what you have to.

The country that I grew up in is already destroyed with LBJ's Great Society.

I won't support evil in any form. Liberals are evil. And Romney is a pro-abortion, big-government, anti-gun liberal.

/johnny

478 posted on 05/04/2012 10:20:08 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: reaganaut

“If you have already decided to vote for Romney in the general you are PRO-Romney.”

If the choice is Obama or Romney, I’ll take my chances with Romney. I will not take my chances with a write-in and be stuck with Obama. Call it what you must; it’s important that you feel special.


479 posted on 05/04/2012 10:21:08 AM PDT by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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To: Moose4

If I lived in California, I might well vote for the best conservative candidate on the ballot, since Obama will win no matter what.

Since I live in Virginia, I’m probably going to vote for Romney, because we are sadly a presidential battleground state, even though our republican governor won by double-digits, and we won our state races last year by double-digits (I think a better conservative would have made this state an easy republican win, but that’s water under the bridge).


480 posted on 05/04/2012 10:21:08 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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