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Frank discussion re our loss to Obama/Romney and the future direction of FR and tea party movement
Click here to pledge your support! ^ | May 4, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 05/04/2012 6:31:27 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

My FRiends, we might as well face the reality that we the combined pro-life conservative movement and tea party coalition have lost this round (the presidential election) in the larger battle to reclaim our constitution and our inalienable rights. Rove, Romney and the GOP-e have successfully destroyed and driven off each and every pro-life conservative tea party candidate from the race and all have surrendered to the Romney camp. It is no secret that Romney is not one of us. There is absolutely no doubt that he has never accomplished a single conservative thing in his entire political career (one term as liberal governor of liberal Massachusetts and six years campaigning for president). In Massachusetts, he undeniably championed abortion, gay rights, global warming, gun control, big government statist mandated/socialized health care programs, liberal judges, TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending, debt limit increases, etc, and even though he's recently claimed a complete reversal in political beliefs and no longer despises pro-life conservatives or the time of Reagan-Bush, I still don't trust him. He still stubbornly holds on to some of his statist beliefs, like global warming, gays in the military, RomneyCare, stimulus spending, etc, so there is no way I can vote for him or join Cain, Perry, Bachmann, Newt or any others who are endorsing him. But I will not act on my prior promises that I would actively campaign against him if he wins the nomination. Our combined movement is already torn and splintered and is going to have to be mended if we're going to have any impact whatsoever against the liberal/progressives and statists after the election. To that end I propose a TRUCE among our conservative forces during the remainder of this election cycle.

We conservatives have already lost the presidency to either the Dems or the GOP-e, and if we tear the tea party apart, if we tear the pro-life movement apart, if we tear FR apart then we lose it all. It's far more important that we re-unite and live to fight another day. Even if we can't vote for a true conservative for the presidency, it's doubly important that we all turn out on election day or sooner and drag our friends, neighbors, relatives, co-workers, etc, to the polls to vote straight conservative for every slot on our ballots. The only way we can win our freedom back is to vote out the liberal progressives and vote in as many liberty loving conservatives as is humanly possible into every elected office at every level of government all across this great land. To prevent a total loss to the dems or GOP-e, we must continue the tea party rebellion into November and beyond. Whatever else you may do, you must turn out and vote straight tea party conservative down ticket!!

We must continue expanding our inroads into the state houses and into every elective office in the land. We must continue building on our majority in the house and we must retake the senate!! We must help the conservative governors and state legislatures to fully restore the ninth and tenth amendments and reclaim the real political power away from the federal usurpers and return it to the states and the people per the constitution!! This way, regardless of who wins the presidency, we can cut his unconstitutional expansionist movements off at the knees. And if any executive, civil officer or judge dares commit impeachable offenses, we must hold the majorities so we can impeach and remove them from office!!

And we must salvage and rebuild and continue strengthening our conservative pro-life, pro-family, pro-gun, pro-borders, pro-constitution, pro-small government, pro-defense, pro-liberty movements and our tea party coalition. And we must stop ripping each other apart!!

Therefore I hereby propose a general truce among our conservative forces!!

The Republic we save may be our own!!

As far as FR's finances go, we're in the same boat as the rest of the economy and will have to make do with what we can raise. Fortunately, the big debts we ran up a couple years ago have been paid off. We borrowed approx $20,000 a few years ago from two FReepers to fund our national convention, plus we ran up another $20,000 in legal fees during the last couple of years fighting off Righthaven. But those are now behind us and paid off. We also did quite a bit of traveling each year for the last three years on cross country tea party tours, but I think we can now cut that back and remove it from our budget requirements. If we're fortunate enough to not incur any additional legal costs or equipment costs (other than what we've already planned), and cut the travel and a few other areas, we should be able to tighten our belts enough to weather the storm even if we fail to reach our short term fundraising goals.

Whatever the outcome of the elections, we are prepared to roar into 2013 with the tea party chewing up liberal/progressives and RINOs and raising hell in our never ending fight for liberty!!

We are the resistance!!

Let's take the enemy head-on instead of fighting each other!!

Damn the torpedoes, full steam ahead!!


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To: Longbow1969; CharlesWayneCT

“that’s pretty much just one person spamming old anti-Romney stories people have already read or otherwise don’t care about. It’s like a daily temper tantrum resulting in useless dated material being sprayed out on to the forums.”

Yeah, it degrades the utility of the site to have old dated respammed stuff crowding out real stories.


1,161 posted on 05/04/2012 9:52:16 PM PDT by WOSG (Anyone But Obama)
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To: betty boop
This criminal conspiracy MUST be removed from the Oval Office. This is the most corrupt executive I have ever seen in my life, and perhaps in all American history.

Indeed. Thank you so much for sharing your insights, dearest sister in Christ!


1,162 posted on 05/04/2012 10:05:11 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Jeff Head
The change, getting back to the constitution, has to be done “consitutionally”.

Well the 'only way' that can be done is as determined already, by Constitutional amendment. Congress or the states can initiate that.... then the amendment has to be ratified by a fixed number of states before it takes effect... it can also be changed at a "Constitutional Convention,"... but none have been done that way since the 1700s.

1,163 posted on 05/04/2012 10:10:54 PM PDT by caww
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To: MSSC6644

“I don’t really support Ron Paul”

Then don’t shill for him. The primary is over. Romney will be the nominee. Ron Paul is only making noise and is irrelevent, except for how he has destroyed the ability for consensus conservatives to win (see my other post on this).


1,164 posted on 05/04/2012 10:12:39 PM PDT by WOSG (Anyone But Obama)
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To: caww

Well they do bash Jim and FR relentlessly on that site ....yet you then come into Jim’s House, thinking you should be received as a guest, and sit at his table??? Why not just go to a site who doesn’t bash your friend here?


I don’t insult anyone. Well, not often - I can get a mite riled up at times, not being the most even tempered person in the universe. Those times I normally hit abuse on my own posts and ask they be removed, then apologise via freepmail to whoever it was.
Any mod can confirm that. So can anyone I have insulted in the past (probably three or four people).

I am happy to come in, sit on Jim’s porch and shoot the breeze with like minded people. Fetch along the odd 6 pack too, or start discussions (sometimes provocatively - ask DJ or wagglebee about my abortion thread sometime).

I simply got saddened then irritated by what, to me, seemed like censorship of free speech via zotting.
I don’t make the mistake of assuming that free speech means you can say what you like and damn about the feelings of others. Posted about that here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2876381/posts?page=535#535 or see the last line on my profile page. But I do believe that everyone has the right to be heard even if - or especially if - they see things differently from you.

How else do you continue to learn and grow?


1,165 posted on 05/04/2012 10:17:46 PM PDT by EnglishCon (When life gets too much to stand - kneel.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Yeah; right. Whatever!


1,166 posted on 05/04/2012 10:19:32 PM PDT by Homers-odd-I-see (We've got to get Obama out of the White House on Nov. 6, 2012)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

“If public schools still taught kids to read, it might be possible to have supplemental books that parents could furnish to their kids, books which would “fill in the holes” left by lie-berals in school texts.”

Yes, and I encourage any parents who have no choice about putting their kids in public school to spend an hour debriefing them every day.

It may well be the best part of both your days. Make it fun and loving. You have more influence over your children than a truckload of commie teachers. Utilize it!


1,167 posted on 05/04/2012 10:21:09 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: CharacterCounts; Kevmo

Most conservatives are Republican.
Most Republicans are conservatives.


1,168 posted on 05/04/2012 10:21:23 PM PDT by WOSG (Anyone But Obama)
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To: Homers-odd-I-see

MEOW much?


1,169 posted on 05/04/2012 10:26:37 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Mitt! You're going to have to try harder than that to be "severely conservative" my friend.)
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To: WOSG
Then don’t shill for him.

Read all my other 13 posts on this and I hope you'll understand I wasn't being a shill. You seem to be very angry.

1,170 posted on 05/04/2012 10:28:01 PM PDT by MSSC6644 (Defeat Satan: pray the Rosary.)
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To: MSSC6644

I’m not angry at all, but see #1146.

people keep wondering why conservatives seem hapless in the presidential primaries, and we need to realize the destructive influence Ron Paul has had in the dynamic.

JMHO.


1,171 posted on 05/04/2012 10:31:32 PM PDT by WOSG (Anyone But Obama)
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To: WOSG
The constant Romney attacks are part of that too. He’s not perfect nor conservative, but the anti-Romney hyperbole is extreme to the point of absurdity, inclduing the silly claim that he’s not different from Obama; might as well go to dKos if you want a site trashing a Republican that bad.

One could make the argument that Mitt's current platform is far more conservative than Obama and that it's worth taking a long-shot chance on Mitt.

That said...

Mitt is a known liar.

In my view Mitt's supposed "conversion" on abortion (and other issues) is a little too late in life for me to believe.

It's still May. Why support Mitt now when his stinky feet need to be held to the fire, every minute of every day?

At this point in time I will reserve judgement on what I will do in November.

1,172 posted on 05/04/2012 10:32:37 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: JRandomFreeper

Since Dole and Clinton.
The GOP never wins when they run a liberal or moderate. But they keep trying. And folks keep buying the fear thing.


No arguments from me on that statement although I question just how much appetite for discomfort our fellow citizens have. Most people are going to have to tighten their belts including those on social security if we are going to save ourselves.

I am not ashamed to admit that I am very afraid of what is coming. I have three little reasons - ages 3, 5, and 6. I wonder what life will be like for them. Most American’s seem more concerned about their own comfort than future generations.

“It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. A principle which if acted on would save one-half the wars of the world.” - Thomas Jefferson

Wise words indeed. Our children will pay the debts with austerity and blood if we don’t address the problems we voted for.


1,173 posted on 05/04/2012 10:34:59 PM PDT by volunbeer (Don't worry America, our kids can pay for it!)
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To: Magic Fingers; Finny

“A more complete way to look at it is that by casting your vote for someone other than Obama OR Romney in the General, neutral between those two, you are using your vote to weaken either liberal victory.”

“If Obama wins it will be 100% Communist, 100% of the time, with him and his appointees (cabinet posts, czars, judges). The destructive regime won’t be weakened in the slightest by a symbolic protest vote.”

CORRECT!

Obama’s 2nd term will be his most dangerous one.


1,174 posted on 05/04/2012 10:35:02 PM PDT by WOSG (Anyone But Obama)
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To: MaxFlint

“Either he’s a left winger or he’s an opportunist. “

The odds of a Mormon venture capitalist businessman with 5 kids and a normal stay-at-home wife being a leftist? ZERO.

100% opportunist.

Romney will be a weathervane Republican, which beats Marxist Obama hands down.


1,175 posted on 05/04/2012 10:45:45 PM PDT by WOSG (Anyone But Obama)
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To: volunbeer
Locally, I have three grandbabies under age 6 and their mother and my son-in-law that I worry about. Can't do much about the batch in California...

I called them tonight to warn them of the storm that veered south of us.

We're all in the same boat, however. And my crew is ready for what comes.

I personally haven't had running hot water since late 2008.

Not bad during the summer, when the water here is bath temp. But it's... refreshing.... in the winter.

/johnny

1,176 posted on 05/04/2012 10:45:45 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Dagnabitt

I’m voting Romney and hoping he wins.
Because no matter how much he will disappoint me starting on January 20, 2013, I still get to taste (figuratively) the sweet tears of unfathomable sadness shed by Obama, Mooch, and all their idiot supporter for a two and a half glorious months.

I’ll at least have that.


Thanks for the laugh. I will enjoy watching that!


1,177 posted on 05/04/2012 10:47:18 PM PDT by volunbeer (Don't worry America, our kids can pay for it!)
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To: delapaz

“So Obama takes the blame, we teach the GOP a lesson about acceptable nominations, and a crack at a conservative in 2016 to rebuild the economy. Triple play.”

But this puts us in the bizarre position of hoping Obama wins. . .


1,178 posted on 05/04/2012 10:47:18 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: caww

I’m not talking about changing the Constitution. I am talking about the nation changing...congress, the executive, the SCOTUS so that they actually follow the Constitution

To do that involves we the people electing the right people to office who will do so and keep their oath to do so.

We took a good step in that direction in 2010 during the mid terms with the Tea Party.

We just have to get people who will pass laws, sign laws, and interpret lawas according to the Constitution as it exists.

That is my meaning.

AMERICA AT THE CROSSROADS OF HISTORY
http://www.jeffhead.com/crossroads.htm


1,179 posted on 05/04/2012 10:47:30 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: caww

I’m not talking about changing the Constitution. I am talking about the nation changing...congress, the executive, the SCOTUS so that they actually follow the Constitution

To do that involves we the people electing the right people to office who will do so and keep their oath to do so.

We took a good step in that direction in 2010 during the mid terms with the Tea Party.

We just have to get people who will pass laws, sign laws, and interpret lawas according to the Constitution as it exists.

That is my meaning.

AMERICA AT THE CROSSROADS OF HISTORY
http://www.jeffhead.com/crossroads.htm


1,180 posted on 05/04/2012 10:48:49 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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