Posted on 04/22/2012 9:10:12 AM PDT by Daffynition
it’s all good.....I was at both Sheriff Joe pressers....I’m actually in the videos ax’n questions....and I’ve been in maybe 20 meetings on the subject.
here is one concrete fact for ya.....everyone with an eye on each side knows the selective service card is pure Barbara Streisand . When I say everyone.....the commie black caucus is pertified about it.
something else too.....world class talent world wide are helpin the investigation...
Sheriff Joe IS the most historied Sheriff in America’s history as Joe accused the President of the United States to be the recipiant of frauded documents which were then presented to her citizenry
What’s frustrating is that despite the eligibility requirement being in the constitution, unless a procedure is codified in law, Obama seems intent on ignoring the constitution.
Are you bitter and clinging to guns and religion?
You just aren’t sophisticated enough to understand that Obama and good liberals know what is best for you. (sarcasm)
**Hill argued that New Jersey law does not require Obama to present a valid birth certificate to establish his qualifications under Article 2, Section 1, of the U.S. Constitution **
Without any uniformity in *all 57* states....fugetaboutit.
OK so the order of importance is
Social security number
Selective service registration
Birth certificate
What are the statute of limitations for Selective service fraud/forgery/etc
Whats the time limit on Social security number misuse; that number is still being used by 0
Birth cert fakery ties in with identity theft.... what’s the limitation time-wise on that?
I pray for Sheriff Arpaio, and now you as well. Stay safe. And I thank FR for this forum.
I pray for Sheriff Arpaio, and now you as well. Stay safe. And I thank FR for this forum.
I pray for Sheriff Arpaio, and now you as well. Stay safe. And I thank FR for this forum.
"One possible solution would be a constitutional amendment"
Read your Constitution. The Twentieth Amendment, section 3. It states:
""3. If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified."
A few notes.
1. There is no such position as a "President elect", legally, until such a time as Congress has accepted the results of the electoral college votes and a person is actually named as the "President elect". This means that the term "shall have qualified" refers to something other than the results of winning an election. There is only one place left in the Constitution having to do with "qualifications" for the office of President, that being the eligibility requirements from Article two.
"No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."
2. Since it is the duty of Congress to name an interim President in the event of a President elect's "failure to qualify", they, Congress, must know whether or not to do so. This means that they, Congress, must be aware of whether or not a President elect meets the eligibility requirements from Article two. It is the burden of the President elect to "qualify" or "fail to qualify", thus NOT proving one is eligible under Article Two to Congress is the same thing as "failing to qualify."
3. How was Obama's eligibility proven to Congress without a valid long form birth certificate? He apparently does not possess such a thing or we would have seen it a million times by now.
4. The eligibility requirements start out with two simple words which forever preclude anyone who "fails to qualify" from serving as a legal president, "No person". Someone who sneaks in because Congress failed to uphold it's responsibility to enforce the Twentieth Amendment, section 3 doesn't legally exist. The Constitution cannot be fooled just because Congress didn't act when it was supposed to. A President elect either qualifies or he cannot ever be President, period.
Thus it is that we already have protection from someone who is ineligible to serve as President already written into the Constitution. Unfortunately, we also have a Congress that did not uphold it's oath to support the Constitution and a usurpation of the office of President is the result.
And here you are again. I’m convinced there is something to it, because it always seems to bring out the worst sort of vermin.
mark
Sheese, sorry for the multiple posts. Got carried away cause Al Gore’s amazing internet was misbehaving.
One, if the states DID something like this, the justice department would make it “null and void” ....AND....the republicans would do nothing about it.
Second, we don’t need a new law. We need an opposition party that believes in the constitution. Personally, I think it’s already gone too far.
Thanks, for posting those very relevant passages, but as you can guess, I am familiar with that section of the Constitution. You and I both are in agreement that there is a man in the White House who simply should never have got there in the first place. Where I think we disagree is what to do about it right now.
I don’t know how old you are, but I will guess you might be at least as old as me, and you can probably guess that I am speaking about realistic action, not what I would like to see happen, and what could legally happen.
It simply isn’t realistic to think that our elected officials who have been sitting on this all this time are going to do anything such as throw the bum out of office, short of a revolution. Perhaps that is what it will take.
It simply will not happen, and for us to obsess about it won’t do anything at all but keep us from getting something enacted to keep it from happening again.
I would suggest our efforts would be better spent at keeping that SOB off of the ballot in November.
Missouri needs your help!
Missouri legislators are attempting to pass a bill and we need your help. Please tell any Missourians you know to contact their state Senator and representative and persuade them to support HB1046. Pass this on at other blogs.
HB 1046 requires proof of identity and status as a United States natural born citizen for the office of President and Vice President to be submitted with other required certification documents to the Secretary of State
Sponsor: Rowland, Lyle (143)
Proposed Effective Date: 8/28/2012
LR Number: 4081L.01P
Last Action: 4/16/2012 – Public Hearing Held (S)
Bill String: HB 1046
Next Hearing: Hearing not scheduled
Calendar: Bill currently not on a House calendar
http://www.house.mo.gov/billsummary.aspx?bill=HB1046&year=2012&code=R
Orwellian “newspeak”:
Irrelevant = fake.
thank you for your honorable service.....
At this point only the stupidest ignorant morons with no knowledge of computers still believe in Hussein’s fake birth certificate. The only part of the any level of the US government to actually investigate the document confirmed that it is fake.
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