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Now Obama's birth certificate is 'irrelevant'
WND ^ | April 20, 2012 | Joseph Farah

Posted on 04/22/2012 9:10:12 AM PDT by Daffynition

Let me tell you a little story.

A year ago this month, Jerome Corsi’s “Where’s the Birth Certificate?” blockbuster was the top-selling book in the nation – weeks before it was even released!

On top of that, Donald Trump was telling everyone who would listen that he couldn’t understand why Barack Obama refused to release his birth certificate.

It was in the midst of all this that I got a call from Corsi one morning. He told me his sources were telling him Obama was so desperate he was going to release a phony birth certificate to quell the controversy.

Within a week or 10 days, Obama did just that.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: bcirrelevant; birthcertificate; birther; certifigate; forgerygate; joefarrah; naturalborncitizen; obama
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To: OldPossum; freekitty

Hahahah...more like “Marshmallow Law”

Really, though...we should all make sure we don’t go off the end.

He has not declared martial law, and we know it. Just saying things like that is enough to make other people roll their eyes and discount any opponent of Obama.

That is not to say he is destroying our freedom by eroding and tearing apart the Constitution in the way he has appointed czars, passed legislation and utilized Executive Orders.

But we are not under martial law yet. We will know it when we are.


51 posted on 04/22/2012 10:23:32 AM PDT by rlmorel (A knife in the chest from a unapologetic liberal is preferable to a knife in the back from a RINO.)
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To: sueQ; advertising guy

“Don’t leave us hanging... please do tell.”

No don’t tell. As much as I want to know, I’d rather they save the information for the greatest impact when it is released.


52 posted on 04/22/2012 10:25:15 AM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: sueQ

soon....right now I cannot cause “they” read every word


53 posted on 04/22/2012 10:27:20 AM PDT by advertising guy (Sarah just jumped..........game on boys.)
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To: patriot08
Indonesian statue of Obama
54 posted on 04/22/2012 10:29:02 AM PDT by andyk (Go Juan Pablo!)
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To: Smokeyblue

You’re right.

Just a little drive by post by a BC rag 666. Nothing worth answering.


55 posted on 04/22/2012 10:29:39 AM PDT by melancholy (Professor Alinsky, Enslavement Specialist, Ph.D in L0w and H0lder)
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To: rlmorel
Not only does the Birth Certificate seem to be forged, but also

The Selective Service filing,

The Social Security number, and

The incoming flight records are missing for the period Aug 1 - 8, 1961.

Is this all "crap?"

56 posted on 04/22/2012 10:31:31 AM PDT by eCSMaster (Conservative patriots, Rise up!)
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To: advertising guy; sueQ

Waiting eagerly here too!


57 posted on 04/22/2012 10:31:36 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: Smokeyblue

I can add this....the regime is way more scared of the selective service card fraud than the BC until world class folk took on the social security number scandal

( read that last sentence again }


58 posted on 04/22/2012 10:34:39 AM PDT by advertising guy (Sarah just jumped..........game on boys.)
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To: Daffynition

[ Now Obama’s birth certificate is ‘irrelevant’ ]

AND republicans choose the inventor of Romney-care to be presidential candidate...
SOoo, the inventor of Romney-care can fight it out with the inventor of Obama-care..

You can’t make this “stuff” up...


59 posted on 04/22/2012 10:37:55 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: advertising guy

I’m wondering too.


60 posted on 04/22/2012 10:41:38 AM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: advertising guy

Who are these “world class folk”? Either you really know something, or you are playing us for fools. I hope it is not the latter. That would be... well... really crappy.


61 posted on 04/22/2012 10:46:10 AM PDT by sueQ
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To: BCrago66

Actually it’s the exact opposite. If “birther stuff” helped 0bastard why is the MSM Propaganda Arm of the Left dead silent about it? They’d be covering Arpaio daily if “birther stuff” helped their guy win.

Actually even moderates and dems are starting to wonder who the heck the guy in the White House really is.


62 posted on 04/22/2012 10:47:59 AM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: rlmorel

Received in a email.


63 posted on 04/22/2012 10:48:24 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Daffynition; BillyBoy; randita; theothercheek; miss marmelstein; juliej; firebrand; Fred Nerks; ...
There is clearly a problem here in enforcing the Constitutional natural born citizen requirement for president and vice president on the states conducting their elections for these offices.

One possible solution would be a constitutional amendment (1) barring any candidate who cannot prove that he meets the constitutional requirements for the federal office he is seeking from appearing on a state ballot, (2) voiding any electoral votes cast for such a candidate in any presidential or vice-presidential election, and (3) enabling Congress to enact appropriate legislation to make it a federal crime for an individual to gain access to the ballot as a candidate for federal office in any state when such individual cannot prove that he meets the constitutional requirements for the said office.

I know that we conservatives generally dislike any federal mandates on the states, but if the states cannot clean up their election procedures to conform with the Constitution, there has to be a way to reassert the fundamental principle that the federal Constitution is the supreme law of the land.

64 posted on 04/22/2012 10:51:56 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: rlmorel
But we are not under martial law yet.
One little word makes all the difference doesn't it.
65 posted on 04/22/2012 10:56:50 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: rlmorel

Thanks for an expert confirmation.


66 posted on 04/22/2012 10:57:29 AM PDT by Graewoulf ((Dictator Baby-Doc Barack's obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND U.S. Constitution.))
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To: advertising guy

Excellent!


67 posted on 04/22/2012 10:58:55 AM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: advertising guy

What do you mean by “world class folk”?

I don’t understand that term.


68 posted on 04/22/2012 11:03:23 AM PDT by HoneysuckleTN (Where the woodbine twineth... || FUBO! OMG! ABO!)
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To: sueQ

then why in hell do I post....I’m playin you for a fool ?


69 posted on 04/22/2012 11:04:36 AM PDT by advertising guy (Sarah just jumped..........game on boys.)
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To: HoneysuckleTN

people who are experts in social security evolution


70 posted on 04/22/2012 11:06:05 AM PDT by advertising guy (Sarah just jumped..........game on boys.)
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To: advertising guy

Thank you.


71 posted on 04/22/2012 11:12:00 AM PDT by HoneysuckleTN (Where the woodbine twineth... || FUBO! OMG! ABO!)
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To: rlmorel

“As bad (and I do mean bad) a candidate as McCain was, I never thought the American electorate would elect a man who had the connections and associations that Obama has. “

If you can understand how “news” from modern disciples of Edward Bernays such as Goebbles can enable the holocaust, then you can understand how modern propagandist in the LSM “Git ‘er done”.


72 posted on 04/22/2012 11:21:33 AM PDT by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was, as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: justiceseeker93
There is clearly a problem here in enforcing the Constitutional natural born citizen requirement for president and vice president on the states conducting their elections for these offices.

There really isn't a State problem at all.

The States do not Constitutionally (read legally) hold elections for candidates for President or Vice President. They hold elections for electors. The electors can vote for anyone I suppose, but it is, or was obviously in the minds of the Framers, up to Congress to discard votes for candidates not eligible to hold either office.

ML/NJ

73 posted on 04/22/2012 11:22:39 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Terry Mross
When the republicans watch it being shredded they’re just as guilty as the ones doing the shredding.

Amen to that! Seems like the republicans want to pick and choose which part of the Constitution is ok to ignore and which parts are valid. That's even worse than the "living and breathing theory".

Sorry guys. It's now set as standard that we are ALL Americans until proven otherwise (not even admitting you are illegal, born elsewhere, or went to school in a foreign country as a Muslim in a book no longer counts as proof). Hide, burn or destroy the documents and YOU are American. Obama set this new standard. It's precedence now.

74 posted on 04/22/2012 11:28:08 AM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: onedoug
Because it take the Senate to convict. It will never happen.
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It is not possible to impeach a usurper who is and always will be legally unable to hold the office of U.S. president. His claim to office and reign is a complete nullity. He needs to be prosecuted for fraud on the American people and put away in the slammer. His alienage needs to be investigated and determined, and if he is an illegal alien he needs to deported. These issues become increasingly important should he try to seize complete totalitarian control over this country.
75 posted on 04/22/2012 11:29:18 AM PDT by iontheball
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To: advertising guy

“then why in hell do I post....I’m playin you for a fool ?”

My apologies AG,

I have been played the fool more times than I care to say. I grew up in a community that was for the most part honest and law abiding. Unfortunately or fortunately (depending on how you look at it), as a result, I’ve had my faith in mankind somewhat mangled after stepping out of my comfort zone. But you are right. I haven’t the right to assume that about you.


76 posted on 04/22/2012 11:43:50 AM PDT by sueQ
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To: Daffynition

We don’t need to Impeach him because first of all there is nobody in charge that will even go there. We just need to enforce the law and make him either comply or kick his butt off the ballot.


77 posted on 04/22/2012 11:46:36 AM PDT by rwoodward ("god, guns and more ammo")
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To: OldPossum

No, no, no. It is not “marshall law.” It’s “martial law.”

Would that be Wyatt Earp?

Sheriff Joe is now the most significant Law Man in Arizona history and the way this plays out, he could well be in the history of the nation.


78 posted on 04/22/2012 11:47:42 AM PDT by Surrounded_too
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To: JoeProBono

You’ve GOT to be kidding.


79 posted on 04/22/2012 11:51:04 AM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: BCrago66

Where are you getting these statistics from - out of your a$$, where your head seems to be stuck?


80 posted on 04/22/2012 11:53:06 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Sworn to Defend The Constitution Against ALL Enemies, Foreign and Domestic. So Help Me GOD!)
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To: sueQ

it’s all good.....I was at both Sheriff Joe pressers....I’m actually in the videos ax’n questions....and I’ve been in maybe 20 meetings on the subject.

here is one concrete fact for ya.....everyone with an eye on each side knows the selective service card is pure Barbara Streisand . When I say everyone.....the commie black caucus is pertified about it.

something else too.....world class talent world wide are helpin the investigation...


81 posted on 04/22/2012 11:57:58 AM PDT by advertising guy (Sarah just jumped..........game on boys.)
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To: rlmorel
Acknowledge the corruption—’Obama/Corzine 2012’
82 posted on 04/22/2012 11:59:59 AM PDT by yadent
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To: Surrounded_too

Sheriff Joe IS the most historied Sheriff in America’s history as Joe accused the President of the United States to be the recipiant of frauded documents which were then presented to her citizenry


83 posted on 04/22/2012 12:01:23 PM PDT by advertising guy (Sarah just jumped..........game on boys.)
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To: Daffynition

What’s frustrating is that despite the eligibility requirement being in the constitution, unless a procedure is codified in law, Obama seems intent on ignoring the constitution.


84 posted on 04/22/2012 12:45:07 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Don Corleone

Are you bitter and clinging to guns and religion?

You just aren’t sophisticated enough to understand that Obama and good liberals know what is best for you. (sarcasm)


85 posted on 04/22/2012 1:26:37 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: justiceseeker93

**Hill argued that New Jersey law does not require Obama to present a valid birth certificate to establish his qualifications under Article 2, Section 1, of the U.S. Constitution **

Without any uniformity in *all 57* states....fugetaboutit.


86 posted on 04/22/2012 1:30:34 PM PDT by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: advertising guy

OK so the order of importance is

Social security number

Selective service registration

Birth certificate

What are the statute of limitations for Selective service fraud/forgery/etc

Whats the time limit on Social security number misuse; that number is still being used by 0

Birth cert fakery ties in with identity theft.... what’s the limitation time-wise on that?


87 posted on 04/22/2012 1:35:16 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: advertising guy

I pray for Sheriff Arpaio, and now you as well. Stay safe. And I thank FR for this forum.


88 posted on 04/22/2012 1:59:40 PM PDT by sueQ
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To: advertising guy

I pray for Sheriff Arpaio, and now you as well. Stay safe. And I thank FR for this forum.


89 posted on 04/22/2012 1:59:55 PM PDT by sueQ
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To: advertising guy

I pray for Sheriff Arpaio, and now you as well. Stay safe. And I thank FR for this forum.


90 posted on 04/22/2012 2:00:04 PM PDT by sueQ
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To: rlmorel; justiceseeker93
"This is about putting a process in place for this election and future elections to ensure that anyone running for higher office is who they say they are, and that they meet the Constitutional requirements for citizenship."

"One possible solution would be a constitutional amendment"

Read your Constitution. The Twentieth Amendment, section 3. It states:

""3. If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified."

A few notes.

1. There is no such position as a "President elect", legally, until such a time as Congress has accepted the results of the electoral college votes and a person is actually named as the "President elect". This means that the term "shall have qualified" refers to something other than the results of winning an election. There is only one place left in the Constitution having to do with "qualifications" for the office of President, that being the eligibility requirements from Article two.

"No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."

2. Since it is the duty of Congress to name an interim President in the event of a President elect's "failure to qualify", they, Congress, must know whether or not to do so. This means that they, Congress, must be aware of whether or not a President elect meets the eligibility requirements from Article two. It is the burden of the President elect to "qualify" or "fail to qualify", thus NOT proving one is eligible under Article Two to Congress is the same thing as "failing to qualify."

3. How was Obama's eligibility proven to Congress without a valid long form birth certificate? He apparently does not possess such a thing or we would have seen it a million times by now.

4. The eligibility requirements start out with two simple words which forever preclude anyone who "fails to qualify" from serving as a legal president, "No person". Someone who sneaks in because Congress failed to uphold it's responsibility to enforce the Twentieth Amendment, section 3 doesn't legally exist. The Constitution cannot be fooled just because Congress didn't act when it was supposed to. A President elect either qualifies or he cannot ever be President, period.

Thus it is that we already have protection from someone who is ineligible to serve as President already written into the Constitution. Unfortunately, we also have a Congress that did not uphold it's oath to support the Constitution and a usurpation of the office of President is the result.

91 posted on 04/22/2012 2:02:40 PM PDT by Uncle Sham
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To: Tex-Con-Man

And here you are again. I’m convinced there is something to it, because it always seems to bring out the worst sort of vermin.


92 posted on 04/22/2012 2:07:33 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: advertising guy

mark


93 posted on 04/22/2012 2:13:08 PM PDT by JDoutrider (Impeach! Incarcerate! Deport!)
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To: sueQ

Sheese, sorry for the multiple posts. Got carried away cause Al Gore’s amazing internet was misbehaving.


94 posted on 04/22/2012 2:14:21 PM PDT by sueQ
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To: justiceseeker93

One, if the states DID something like this, the justice department would make it “null and void” ....AND....the republicans would do nothing about it.

Second, we don’t need a new law. We need an opposition party that believes in the constitution. Personally, I think it’s already gone too far.


95 posted on 04/22/2012 2:16:26 PM PDT by Terry Mross ("It happened. And we let it happen." - Peter Griffin, FAMILY GUY)
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To: Uncle Sham

Thanks, for posting those very relevant passages, but as you can guess, I am familiar with that section of the Constitution. You and I both are in agreement that there is a man in the White House who simply should never have got there in the first place. Where I think we disagree is what to do about it right now.

I don’t know how old you are, but I will guess you might be at least as old as me, and you can probably guess that I am speaking about realistic action, not what I would like to see happen, and what could legally happen.

It simply isn’t realistic to think that our elected officials who have been sitting on this all this time are going to do anything such as throw the bum out of office, short of a revolution. Perhaps that is what it will take.

It simply will not happen, and for us to obsess about it won’t do anything at all but keep us from getting something enacted to keep it from happening again.

I would suggest our efforts would be better spent at keeping that SOB off of the ballot in November.


96 posted on 04/22/2012 2:17:54 PM PDT by rlmorel (A knife in the chest from a unapologetic liberal is preferable to a knife in the back from a RINO.)
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To: Daffynition

Missouri needs your help!

Missouri legislators are attempting to pass a bill and we need your help. Please tell any Missourians you know to contact their state Senator and representative and persuade them to support HB1046. Pass this on at other blogs.

HB 1046 requires proof of identity and status as a United States natural born citizen for the office of President and Vice President to be submitted with other required certification documents to the Secretary of State
Sponsor: Rowland, Lyle (143)
Proposed Effective Date: 8/28/2012
LR Number: 4081L.01P
Last Action: 4/16/2012 – Public Hearing Held (S)
Bill String: HB 1046
Next Hearing: Hearing not scheduled
Calendar: Bill currently not on a House calendar

http://www.house.mo.gov/billsummary.aspx?bill=HB1046&year=2012&code=R


97 posted on 04/22/2012 2:18:16 PM PDT by Jonah Vark (Any 5th grader knows that the Constitution declares the separation of powers.)
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To: Daffynition

Orwellian “newspeak”:

Irrelevant = fake.


98 posted on 04/22/2012 2:20:09 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Obama ate his own dog as a child in Indonesia??)
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To: JDoutrider

thank you for your honorable service.....


99 posted on 04/22/2012 2:21:07 PM PDT by advertising guy (Sarah just jumped..........game on boys.)
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To: Daffynition

At this point only the stupidest ignorant morons with no knowledge of computers still believe in Hussein’s fake birth certificate. The only part of the any level of the US government to actually investigate the document confirmed that it is fake.


100 posted on 04/22/2012 2:24:38 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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