No, it isn't, the mark is there.
Posted on 04/21/2012 6:10:36 AM PDT by kevcol
A couple of things are certain:
DeeDee and Trayvon did not talk for 400 minutes on 2/26 the day he was shot.
DeeDee did not go to the hospital on 3/2 and 3/3 and that was NOT the reason for not attending the viewing or memorial.
DeeDee and Trayvon were not Boyfriend/Girlfriend. They were close, platonic best friends.
DeeDee was not devastated, destroyed, or an emotional wreck. She was sad that her best friend was shot. She notified others, including her cousin who is also a prolific tweeter, but did not know immediately who Trayvon was.
DeeDee did not miss school.
DeeDee did not contact anyone because there was no reason to.
Did DeeDee actually hear anything that night? Who knows. However, the mere fact that Benjamin Crump can be proven to have falsely constructed more than 80% of his press conference in order to plant false misleading misinformation in the media sure brings the entire narrative into question.
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The reason the prosecutor Angela Corey didn’t go to the Grand Jury was because she would have either had to introduce DeeDee’s testimony, or avoid it completely. If she included the lies and the manipulations DeeDee would have been forced to bear witness at trial and O’Mara would be able to pull the lies out. That is why no Grand Jury was used. They wanted the media evidence of “DeeDee” to exist, but not the legal evidence,
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No, it isn't, the mark is there.
FR went through this weeks ago. That picture is from the page of a different Trayvon.
Over and out.
Yeah, well they were wrong.
That is not the same middle schooler from Georgia.
That is Trayvon Martin of Florida.
The fact of the matter is that the media angel grew up into a black criminal thug, and that is him, LOOK AT THE SCAR UNDER HIS RIGHT EYE FOR CHRIST’S SAKE.
Or you can continue to paddle your boat down that river in Egypt like much of the rest of the country...
you’re talking to clara lou, the libtard. cannot for the life of herself, acknowledge that she’s WRONG and Z killed M to protect himself.
I don’t know who you are, but I know that you’re a sadly confused man. I have never made any comment at this web site or any other saying that Zimmerman was not defending himself. I have never said that Zimmerman was guilty of any crime. Please— try hard to make me a liar. All of my posts are available to you.
I have said that Z. should never have gotten out of his truck. But that doesn’t mean I think he’s guilty of any crime.
No, Travyon should have never cased the neighborhood.
Let’s start where it starts.
Perhaps you could tell us what evidence there is that Trayvon was “casing” the neighborhood? Or is it like the non-existant evidence that Zimmerman “profiled” Trayvon?
The line of thinking that George did something wrong just sets my teeth on edge. This guy was vigilant in his protection of his neighborhood which is/was clearly under attack from crime. He had every right to get out of his car.
Maybe you’re a liberal; maybe you’re not but when people consistently apply some error to George for no damn reason it really bugs me. Same applies for defending the photos that are CLEARLY Martin.
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The evidence contained in the 911 call in which George Zimmerman reported Martin’s suspicious behavior.
It’s on tape, you should listen to it.
what a loser.
drop dead, eh? you’re a lukewarm idiot.
Your suggesting that Trayvon was “casing the neighborhood” is just like the other side saying that Zimmerman is a racist.
George Zimmerman suggested it in his call to 911.
He started the call discussing recent break ins, then began to describe the suspicious behavior of the known violent criminal Trayvon Martin.
I really don’t know what else to tell you other than you seem incapable of seeing plain truth when it’s right in front of your face.
You surely don't mean that. There is no law about getting out of one's truck and walking around in one's own neighborhood. Not in this country. Or perhaps you grew up in a communist country?
Let’s start where it starts.
Hey, chris! Don't go hatin' on Trayvon "Fight Club" Martin. You know that the first rule of Fight Club is that you never talk about Fight Club...
Trayvon Martin VS. George Zimmerman – Must Watch Video(s) Crime Scene and Fight Club
Dispatcher: Which entrance is that that he's heading towards?
IMMEDIATELY after the operator asks for the direction of flight, Zimmerman leaves his vehicle. Less than one second after the question is asked, you can hear the door open and the beeping from still having the keys in the ignition. That's about as direct a response as you'll ever see. It's at the 2:05 mark in the call:
Where did you see in my comment that I said Zimmerman broke the law by getting out of his truck? You didn't. It appears reading isn't your specialty. You made an inference that isn't supported by the text.
And as for your "communist country" comment-- how unoriginal. Did you cut and paste that?
But, but, but....Clara Lou sez he shouldn’t have gotten out. How can you go on to prove that Z was doing his civic duty by protecting his neighborhood at the request of the dispatcher!!??
:)
I recall initial reports saying the girl he was talking to on the phone said he was ducking in and out of the condo buildings to avoid the rain. Haven't heard that fact repeated since then, but if true, would certainly look suspicious to an observer.
Regardless, it has been proved, by his own background, friendships, and activities, that Zimmerman is no racist, so the profiling nonsense goes right out the window, the idea that Martin caught his attention JUST because he was a yong black male. By Zimmerman's own words, it was Martin's behavior that night, innocent or not, that attracted it.
There was no "casing" going on. Trayvon was walking home from the corner store with tea and Skittles-- and no one (except you) is arguing otherwise.
Martin took much longer going to store and back than it would have taken had he walked straight there and straight back. So he was doing...other things...
Read that a few days ago, several places.
I have no problem with anything you said.
So, it’s just your opinion that Zimmerman shouldn’t have gotten out of his truck?
Here’s my opinion.
Trayvon Martin shouldn’t have viciously attacked a law abiding citizen who was where he had every right to be at the time of the attack, otherwise he wouldn’t have been justifiably shot dead by said law abiding citizen.
Case closed.
Yeah, I know, he was a little black smurf skipping down the sidewalk wif his tea and skittles singing tra la la la la la la la.
Ain’t no one arguing that but you and a bunch of black racists.
Zimmerman can’t testify to what was in the thug’s system, but he can and did describe what he saw the thug doing.
Pardon me while I go with the eye witness account that casing was going on, and I reject the black racist narative of a child who was shot because he was walking while black, AND I’LL SERVE ON WHATEVER JURY I GET CALLED TO.
If you were to check back through my posts, you would find that I made basically the same comment. Martin should have disappeared around the corner and run home. His stupidity was to attack Zimmerman. He paid the ultimate price for stupidity.
Actually, he paid the ultimate price for violent criminality.
Which in fact makes me believe that if he was willing to behave as such, he was also willing to behave criminally otherwise i.e. burlgaries, especially in such a way that it drew the suspicion of a decent person.
So yeah, walks like a duck, talks like a duck blah, blah, blah...
It almost looks like Trayvon was dressed to referee that fight, but yeah he seems just fine around violence to me.
Thank you for the link, I had not seen that before, really appreciate it ^^
There was no “casing” going on. Trayvon was walking home from the corner store with tea and Skittles— and no one (except you) is arguing otherwise.
Oh, you were there? If you were not there walking with Martin, you don’t know what he was doing. Unless you are God.
LOL, that's what is called projection.
You were the one saying George shouldn't have gotten out of his car. He lived there. He had every right to get out of his car.
I could ask you the same question: Were you there? (And I know you're not God.)
As far as I know, the ME report has not yet been made public.
I’m not claiming that I know what Martin was doing, you are making that claim. I do know that he took much longer on the shopping trip than it would have taken if he had walked straight there and back.
What he was doing is unknown to me. And to you.
And to expound on my first post, “walking to the store to get some Skittles,” sounds like a perfect excuse to get away from Dad for a little while, maybe enough time to burn a doob.
How about the coroner’s report, then?
Having read all of the information out about that night, I know that you know that Dad wasn’t home.
If I see you wander around my street at night, aimlessly, in places where you clearly do not belong, I WILL approach you, I WILL talk to you. I will be polite, I will have a smile on my face, but I will also be armed, and if you don't wish to interact, then you better run as fast as you can in the opposite direction and never come back.
I cannot believe the neutered passivity some Freepers advocate in keeping order. Just cower behind the curtains and let the unionized "professionals" handle it. Makes me ill.
Where was he?
Clara. Go back and read *your* post #205 before you continue with your accusations.
"I have said that Z. should never have gotten out of his truck. But that doesn’t mean I think he’s guilty of any crime.
205 posted on April 22, 2012 11:56:50 AM EDT by Clara Lou [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 204 | View Replies | Report Abuse]
How about it?
After Friday’s bond hearing, a local radio station went to the D.C. courthouse (not federal courts) to get public reaction. Naturally, it was mostly reaction of blacks being sought. I was surprised at how ‘ho hum’ that reaction was, with comments about Zimmerman being entitled to due process, etc. A few were negative, but it was overall fairly rational.
And I am going to remind you once more that Z. was a captain in "Neighborhood Watch." That's "watch and report," not watch and take action. The police were on the way according to the dispatcher.
You sicken easily.
And he got out of the car to WATCH him. You have no evidence otherwise.
You sicken easily.
Wow, that's clever.
If any report about Martin’s condition had been made public we’d know about it. Meaning drugs/no drugs etc.
How about what?
Dad and girlfriend went out to eat and got back home sometime shortly after the shooting. People are saying that he would have to have seen the police cars and goings-on as he got near his place.
I’ll stop asking if you read, because you clearly do not. “Zimmerman should never have gotten out of his truck” (which is my opinion) does not mean the same thing as “Zimmerman broke a law getting out of his truck” (which is not what I have said anywhere, ever). Are you able to grasp that? Words have meanings.
If you don’t understand, you’ll have to deal with it. I will not comment to you any further on that topic.
The story about that has been so widely varied that it really sounds like casting about for plausibility given known information, ie lawyer driven.
Now, why would lawyers be all that concerned about when Tracy Martin and girlfriend/fiancee did this or that?
Something else is at play, imho. Sounds like they left her young son with Trayvon Martin and didn’t come back until the following morning, that’s what it sounds like.
This also fits known information and actually does so more plausibly than the “official” Crump lawyer story.
OK, after getting back, Tracy didn't wonder where Trayvon was, why he didn't return from his Skittles trip? Didn't wonder what happened to his son the next day, a school day on which Trayvon was supposed to be serving suspension?
Yeah, that makes the Skittles story even more improbable. Obviously, the "father" was used to Trayvon wandering around on his own for hours/days at a time.
Frankly, I don't believe a word Martin's family says. They come across as, at best, criminally negligent, and when grown men, fathers, proudly get their picture taken with trash like Lil' Wayne, I am just going to go ahead and assume he's a criminal himself.
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