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To: kabar

By my scoring, it was probably game set match at some point in the Republican primary. We need a president who can lead a u-turn. I don’t see Mitt doing this—I see him leading a significant portion of the GOP in continuing us in the wrong direction. If, by some miracle, there is something salvageable left in 2016, it would be good if we could have Walker or some one like him to try a u-turn. If he has to take on Mitt in the primary, this probably isn’t going to happen.


13 posted on 04/17/2012 7:25:41 AM PDT by Hieronymus ( (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G.K. Chesterton))
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To: Hieronymus
If Obama stays for another four years, Obamacare will be fully implemented; his czars will have effectively shut down our economy thru regulation; out of control spending will continue to keep the welfare state treading water a little while longer; the national debt will be over $20 trillion; and his backdoor amnesty plus legal immigration will continue to change rapidly the demographics of this country making the Dems the permanent majority party. By 2019, half of the children 18 and under will be minorities as defined by the USG and by 2039 half of the country will be minorities.

This country is already in decline, but Obama will hasten it to the point that no one will be able to retrieve it. We have created a massive culture of dependency where almost 50% of the people pay no income taxes; 46 million are on food stamps; 60 million on Medicaid; 54 million on SS and 47 million on Medicare. Those numbers will continue to increase due to an aging population and Obamacare will add 18 million to Medicaid. Obamacare was the final nail in the coffin. Obama and his Marxist allies were brilliant knowing that once Obamacare was passed, there was no turning back.


17 posted on 04/17/2012 8:00:08 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Hieronymus

I don’t think you’re scoring it correctly. Romney is my last choice this time around. He’s a political weather vane, whichever way the wind blows he’s going that way. If we elect a conservative Congress he’ll go along with them.

He’s got a reputation, deserved or not, for being a turnaround guy. He’ll have to turn things around. The biggest danger is him surrounding himself with Kenes boys and ruining things faster.


32 posted on 04/17/2012 10:47:41 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Hieronymus

“By my scoring, it was probably game set match at some point in the Republican primary. We need a president who can lead a u-turn.”

And it’s appropriate that you made this comment in a thread discussing Walker.

If there is one Republican in America who should have been leading the ticket this year, it is Scott Walker.

A soft-spoken but intelligent man of character and principles, who says what he wants to do and then sticks with it, not giving up against the greatest of adversaries. (Aside: compare these qualities with Romney...)

What is leadership supposed to be about?


35 posted on 04/17/2012 11:31:46 AM PDT by Road Glide
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To: Hieronymus

If it ends up being Romney, and if he defeats Obama, we can’t relent. We have to force his hand and that can be via protests and the people we send to Congress. He has to know that we mean business when it comes to restoring our Republic.

We are at a horribly low point, and the recent sensational headlines just exemplify how morally and ethically bankrupt we have become. Our government is unaccountable, so the government employees are unaccountable. They push the envelope over and over again, so that they don’t think twice about spending $1 million for a made-up excuse to throw a lavish party, of flying across the country twice a week on government military jets, and of hiring hookers and doing cocaine while on a foreign assignment.

This all stems from, and is a part of, the $1.3 trillion a year excess that we spend. Only 85 million Americans pay taxes, and of them a large percentage actually work for the government so it is even worse that it appears. The takers want so much they don’t mind that we can’t afford it, they will tax our unborn and saddle them with debt to consume. It is already a system where the people with the power and ability to tax have forsaken the ethos of doing the most with the least - they just take take take and spend spend spend without regard to whom it hurts or who will end up paying for it. And then throw in all the moral busibodies that TS Lewis warned about - they are relentless crusaders nosing in on every aspect of our lives from what food we eat to what we can say to what kind of toilets we can buy and lightbulbs we can use... and if they win from the USSC the “right” to mandate how we spend our money, they will no longer have to worry about taxing us more, they will just tell us how to spend what’s left.

Lately I have just been thoroughly depressed and I don’t feel the fire to fight, but I know we must. If it has to be Romney - and I’m not conceding that one bit - we have to prod him to make the right decisions and turn this country around.


87 posted on 04/20/2012 2:02:26 AM PDT by monkeyshine
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