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Is Some Homophobia Self-phobia?
University of Rochester ^ | April 5, 2012 | Susan Hagen

Posted on 04/08/2012 3:20:59 PM PDT by EveningStar

Homophobia is more pronounced in individuals with an unacknowledged attraction to the same sex and who grew up with authoritarian parents who forbade such desires, a series of psychology studies demonstrates.

(Excerpt) Read more at rochester.edu ...


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KEYWORDS: anotherstudy; homophiles; homophobia; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; pseudoscience; psychobabble; romneysucks; thisthreadisgay; troll
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I'm sure you know that this argument is frequently used by gay advocates, so I don't know how much stock I should put in this article. What do you think?
1 posted on 04/08/2012 3:21:11 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

Sometimes true, but wrong more often than not.


2 posted on 04/08/2012 3:22:30 PM PDT by Psalm 144 ("I'm not willing to light my hair on fire to try and get support. I am who I am." - Willard M Romney)
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To: Psalm 144

That sounds logical.


3 posted on 04/08/2012 3:24:31 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

Some of the obsessiveness about the issue from some of the posters here has made me wonder about them - particularly when they keep going out of their way to list all the homosexual practices that “horrify” them; or the ones consumed by fear that a homosexual will hit on them.

I don’t get where that much energy comes from.


4 posted on 04/08/2012 3:26:31 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: EveningStar

I don’t like to eat dogs. But ALOT of Asians do. Does that make me have a phobia against Asians? I don’t spiders either.


5 posted on 04/08/2012 3:27:20 PM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2011)
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To: EveningStar

Ask The Breck Girl.....didn’t he say something along these lines?


6 posted on 04/08/2012 3:29:02 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (Tawana Brawley, Anita Hill, King Rodney, OJ, Duke Lacrosse, Thugvon Martin. See a pattern?)
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To: EveningStar

And some homophobia isn’t phobia at all. It’s just a knowledge of right and wrong.


7 posted on 04/08/2012 3:30:44 PM PDT by pallis
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To: EveningStar

I don’t remember it being an issue my parents had to address.

I think it has become an issue because media and television have made it popular. Not to mention our illustrious academia.


8 posted on 04/08/2012 3:32:00 PM PDT by berdie
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To: Strategerist
I don’t get where that much energy comes from.

Neither do I.

9 posted on 04/08/2012 3:32:05 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

Oh, no, not this sh!t again.

Seriously, the point is who cares if a bunch of blacks or red necks become homosexuals and turn to Islam in San Francisco to rot and die in their misery so they can call themselves liberals? In fact, someone so inclined to hate them would be so happy to say: “I love Islam and I love when losers practice homosexuality and hurt each other that way”.

THe thing is, so long they do not come around and impose their lives or their faces or derranged lifestyles on me, I am fine. But that never happens. It never happens because decadence requires constant subsidy of some sort to keep going. SO these people are always in your face eventualy.


10 posted on 04/08/2012 3:32:23 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: EveningStar

I think they used to call this “latent homosexuality.” Essentially it occurs when a war is being fought between a person’s morals and his inclinations.


11 posted on 04/08/2012 3:33:54 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: EveningStar
I always like dealing with moral issues using the question: What would happen if everyone did it??

The human race would be wiped out!!

Same thing with abortion....

12 posted on 04/08/2012 3:36:00 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Strategerist

If you are a Christian, you have to live like a child. Would you want to be a child with 2 gay fathers?

That’s the energy. If that does not energize people that we are paying taxes and following expensive laws especially accomodating so that we be treated like their children and have to step in the gutter for them, yeah, that’s energy.

Now, maybe some would want apathy like the Jews going quietly to Dachau or something, because they are too PC to hate the “Energy” against the coming upon of death.


13 posted on 04/08/2012 3:36:00 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: EveningStar

Sometimes I want to kill certain people.
I must be a killer.

I tend to refrain from the practice of killing though, so
I must be killphobic.


14 posted on 04/08/2012 3:36:06 PM PDT by right way right (What's it gonna take?)
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To: EveningStar
It was either Malcolm X...or Mao Tse Tung...who once said “by any means necessary”.That's what this is all about.
15 posted on 04/08/2012 3:36:28 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Jimmy Carter Is No Longer The Worst President To Have Served In My Lifetime.)
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To: EveningStar

Those who would push this garbage need to find a new home on the net. “Homophobia” is a word made by godless liberals suffering “heterophobia.”


16 posted on 04/08/2012 3:37:56 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is not just brewing, rebellion is here!!)
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To: berdie
I think it has become an issue because media and television have made it popular. Not to mention our illustrious academia.

I wonder how much Evening Star's grandchildren and great-grand children are going to have pay for the money borrowed by the government to finance this important study.

17 posted on 04/08/2012 3:39:01 PM PDT by Calusa (The pump don't work cause the vandals took the handles. Quoth Bob Dylan.)
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To: Sacajaweau

Indeed, it’s easy to berate against people who do not like homosexuals when one has money and no problems. However the day the state becomes strong enough to impose its prefered lifestyles, these people will be the first to cry uncle and be like: “ and then they came for me but no one was there, so I had to become gay”

It’s not until you are truly defenseless that one can make true arguments, and if the Earth was completely gay, it would be a good way of starting to imagining it.


18 posted on 04/08/2012 3:41:18 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: EveningStar
Here's your hint:
a series of psychology studies demonstrates.

It's just another lib pushing perversion as acceptable behavior.

19 posted on 04/08/2012 3:42:31 PM PDT by TexasSecede79366
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To: EveningStar

Just another attempt by the gay fascist crowd to push their moral code on this country just like the very European colonialists they say they hate.

They think they’re going to shove it down our throat, but they’re gonna find out the boot’s gonna stomp them into the ground.


20 posted on 04/08/2012 3:43:42 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Election 2012 - America stands or falls. No more excuses. Get involved.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Of course they are heterophobic. They know what they are doing is wrong but they have to live in denial or else they’d be at best looking real stupid, or, at worse, they would delve dangerously into their self hatred already existing and would commit suicide.

America has a real Kool Aid problem regarding homosexuality.


21 posted on 04/08/2012 3:43:52 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: EveningStar

I just want gays to leave me alone.

Does that make me homophobic?

I don’t like the exhibitionist parades, on public streets. I can do without the schools indoctrinationg my kids - ever hear the term ‘love not gender’...your kids probably have, I would really be happy if we hadn’t had a multi-decade battle over gays in the military, to accomodate the few dozen who want to be openly gay in the military.

Must be because I’m secretly gay, though.


22 posted on 04/08/2012 3:45:07 PM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: EveningStar

I hate these threads, what does that make me?

FReeperthreadiophobic?


23 posted on 04/08/2012 3:45:54 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio - http://www.istandwithrush.org/)
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To: EveningStar
Phobias are irrational fears.
Being repulsed by homosexuality is not a phobia.
Homosexuals are the most self loathing people I know, which is why they are desperate to be justified by society.
My brotherIL is a homosexual, nice guy but on the wrong track. He talks openly about his lifestyle, with out details.
He says homosexuals are self loathing, shallow individuals in desperate need of love, which they equate with sex acts.
In his opinion they will suppress these bits of knowledge and fight for social acceptance, so they can feel better about themselves. Which he says why so many desire for their partnership to be called marriage and the drive to adopt, they want to feel normalized. (As a side note he does not believe in homosexual marriage or that homosexuals be allowed to adopt or be foster parents, he will tell you that children need a mother and a father.)

So that is my opinion and the opinion of someone close to me.

24 posted on 04/08/2012 3:46:15 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: Strategerist
has made me wonder about them

Pay less attention to it.
25 posted on 04/08/2012 3:46:26 PM PDT by andyk (Go Juan Pablo!)
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To: pallis
And some homophobia isn’t phobia at all. It’s just a knowledge of right and wrong.

Exactly!! "Phobia" means fear. I doubt there are many in here who are fearful of homosexuals -- but there are many who do know the difference between right and wrong, safe and dangerous.

26 posted on 04/08/2012 3:47:39 PM PDT by Fast Moving Angel (Newt's not a perfect candidate but Jesus isn't running this year. - shoff)
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To: EveningStar

Or, it could be the fact that homosexuals are after our children.


27 posted on 04/08/2012 3:48:30 PM PDT by donna (This is the age of Republican-Feminism. We "feel right” has replaced being right!)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Indeed, this is all about “communist electioneering”, ie. the endless campaigning of Obama is a in fact an extention of the endless communist campaign for a communist presidency using and living a communist language.

The way they brought Fluke out of the woodwork to get the emotional woman vote to swing against the GOP and in favor of Obama is exactly that.

When they start talking about homophobia, it is a “movement”, ie. an active measure of campaigning to divide, conquer and “Win” people by fear, blackmail and embarassment. This is cultural electoral campaigning for communist causes.


28 posted on 04/08/2012 3:48:49 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: EveningStar

Oh just great. Now we gotta worry about homophobia-phobia.


29 posted on 04/08/2012 3:50:11 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: EveningStar
What do you think?

I think that the definition of homophobia reinforces opposition, slurs good people, and is so nebulous that I doubt anyone could objectively describe it.
30 posted on 04/08/2012 3:51:34 PM PDT by andyk (Go Juan Pablo!)
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To: Strategerist
"or the ones consumed by fear that a homosexual will hit on them."

I have never seen a single Freeper "consumed by fear" that a homosexual would make a pass at them. Disgusted at the prospect---sure. Understandably so. But frightened? That makes no more sense than the word "homophobia" does.

31 posted on 04/08/2012 3:52:41 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (I can haz Romney's defeat?)
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To: lacrew
Must be because I’m secretly gay, though.

Thay fella......you know the thuper theecret handthake?


32 posted on 04/08/2012 3:54:04 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio - http://www.istandwithrush.org/)
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To: Jim Robinson

bravo!


33 posted on 04/08/2012 3:56:06 PM PDT by brivette
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To: EveningStar
Oh, double horsehockey! "Homophobia" is a catch phrase mixing Latin and Greek that means "fear of man".

I'm not afraid of homosexuals, I'm just repulsed by their "life style" and all of the waste homosexuality entails.

I have a homosexual Brother who thinks of nothing else but homosexuality and his "community". He is impossible to be around and as far as the family tree goes, he could care less, since he is never going to have kids. I worry about him because his "community" experiences 43 times higher STD rates than the normals do but that doesn't slow down the rampant promiscuity. It's a mental disease and it's a cultural wrecking ball until we can finally find a cure.

This claptrap by the good doctor is yet another bogus argument meant to try make all of us with normal inclinations begin to doubt ourselves>

No chance.

34 posted on 04/08/2012 4:01:01 PM PDT by Chainmail
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To: EveningStar
I'm sure you know that this argument is frequently used by gay advocates, so I don't know how much stock I should put in this article. What do you think

To my knowledge, for all of the billions of people and trillions of dollars across the galaxy that has been spent on studies invoking the word "homophobia," exactly NONE of them have EVER specified the difference between it and healthy, normal, heterosexuality as defined by a complete and total non-interest and specific aversion to homosexual attraction.

And until that is done (and you know it never will be), ALL of the "studies" that use the undefined, slanderously accusatory and totally unscientific word "homophobia" are crap.

35 posted on 04/08/2012 4:02:11 PM PDT by Talisker (He who commands, must obey.)
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To: pallis
AMEN! What a ridiculous concept! I supposed that those who are opposed to bestiality are secretly attracted to animals.
36 posted on 04/08/2012 4:04:07 PM PDT by srmorton (Deut. 30 19: "..I have set before you life and death,....therefore, choose life..")
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To: EveningStar

I think that if we have the homosexual acts shoved in our faces long enough, we all become imune to the disgust and horror, just as our marines got used to walking on dead and dismembered bodies throught the Pacific Islands in WWII.

Any other questions about homosexuality and how we are supposed to celebrate it?


37 posted on 04/08/2012 4:07:42 PM PDT by Dogbert41 ("...or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the Great King. " -Jesus)
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To: EveningStar

Homophobia is a distorted term... but in the way that gays and lesbians use the term... it is a moral sanity.

LLS


38 posted on 04/08/2012 4:09:42 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES! (accept only the original))
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To: Strategerist

http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, healthy.”

The above citation should be alarm enough. Homosexuality is a relic of barbarism, just like polygamy and slavery; the motives of people seeking to excuse it should be suspect. Those would advocate it are serving their communist masters in order to destroy American society.


39 posted on 04/08/2012 4:13:17 PM PDT by GenXteacher (He that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart!)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

“I hate these threads, what does that make me?”

Im with you .., If Free Republic becoming a gay forum? Sure starting to seem that way..

if so ... Im out of here....


40 posted on 04/08/2012 4:13:25 PM PDT by Breto (The Establishment party is killing our country)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

“I hate these threads, what does that make me?”

Im with you .., Is Free Republic becoming a gay forum? Sure starting to seem that way..

if so ... Im out of here....


41 posted on 04/08/2012 4:13:43 PM PDT by Breto (The Establishment party is killing our country)
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To: EveningStar

Some (I’d wager the vast majority) of us guys just find the practice repulsive—period. The Left, and Hollywood, has gone out of its way to paint people who despise homosexuality as closet homosexuals. I think this may apply to a very (very) small percentage, but that’s it. One could make the same implication about radical Homosexual activists who seem to hate straight people.

I know a few homosexuals and have no problem interacting with them. Almost all are intelligent, charming individuals. But what I don’t want to do (ever) is hear them talk about Gay sex topics or hit on me. That is out of bounds.


42 posted on 04/08/2012 4:15:34 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: EveningStar

Homophobia is very very rare..

However; Normalphobia by gays are very common..
Some gays love men that act like women and some like men to act like men..
No man can become a women but many act like women.. its an act..

Gays are very queer, thats why they are called Queers..


43 posted on 04/08/2012 4:16:52 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: Breto; Jim Robinson
Im with you .., If Free Republic becoming a gay forum? Sure starting to seem that way..

if so ... Im out of here....

Hope the door slams you in the a@@ on your way out.

44 posted on 04/08/2012 4:18:08 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio - http://www.istandwithrush.org/)
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To: EveningStar

Is Some Homophilia Self-philia?

All of it.

Cracks me up that encouraging an inability to love ‘others’ is touted as a way of encouraging diversity.


45 posted on 04/08/2012 4:19:52 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Exactly. Almost 100 percent of the time, “homophobia” is simple revulsion.


46 posted on 04/08/2012 4:21:00 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta ("....in the last days, mockers will come with their mocking... (2 Peter 3:3))
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To: EveningStar

Psychology is the biggest form of witchcraft in America. It pretends to be a science. Garbage studies like these are just more evidence of how easy it is to get the desired result without really trying.


48 posted on 04/08/2012 4:32:15 PM PDT by aimhigh
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To: Strategerist
Some of the obsessiveness about the issue from some of the posters here has made me wonder about them - particularly when they keep going out of their way to list all the homosexual practices that “horrify” them; or the ones consumed by fear that a homosexual will hit on them.

Those crazy comm-o-phobes of the 60s and 70s had the same problem. Reagan, Nixon, Goldwater and all their supporters... sheesh they would never shut up about communists. Not sure where they got all the energy. They must have all been secretly communists. Glad that's all over with. Hope this homo stuff ends the same way.

49 posted on 04/08/2012 4:38:04 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

When we were kids, when a guy - even a straight guy - exhibited less-than-manly characteristics, he was called a faggot. The term homophobia was the Left’s ingenious way of turning this phenomenon on itself. No real man gets afraid... so you better like gays!


50 posted on 04/08/2012 4:44:59 PM PDT by rickade
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