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Obama Lawyer Laughed at In Supreme Court
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Posted on 03/26/2012 11:44:58 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

Obama Lawyer Laughed at In Supreme Court

On the first day of health care reform arguments before the Supreme Court, two justices needled a top Obama lawyer for simultaneously calling the fine that will be paid under the law for not purchasing insurance a “penalty” and a “tax.”

The confusion arises because of the administration’s argument that the power to enforce the individual mandate is rooted in Congress’ taxing power — but that the mechanism itself is designed to be a penalty, not a revenue-generating policy.

The narrow but important distinction created a communication challenge for the lawyer representing the Obama administration.

U.S. Solicitor General Donald Verrilli used the phrase “tax penalty” multiple times to describe the individual mandate’s backstop. He portrayed the fee as a penalty by design, but one that functions as a tax because it’s collected through the tax code.

“General Verrilli, today you are arguing that the penalty is not a tax. Tomorrow you are going to be back and you will be arguing that the penalty is a tax,” said Justice Samuel Alito, in one of the few laugh lines throughout the 90 minutes of argument Monday.

(Excerpt) Read more at nation.foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2012; alito; donaldverrilli; healthcare; obama; obamacare; scotus; scotusobamacareday; verrilli
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1 posted on 03/26/2012 11:45:03 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

I still can’t believe KAGAN was not forced to RECUSE....


2 posted on 03/26/2012 11:50:58 AM PDT by goodnesswins (2012..."We mutually pledge our Lives, our Fortunes, and our Sacred Honor")
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To: Sub-Driver

Reminds me of the penultimate scene in Chinatown when Faye Dunaway’s character exclaims, “she’s my sister, she’s my daughter, she’s my sister and my daughter!”


3 posted on 03/26/2012 11:53:14 AM PDT by AU72
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To: Sub-Driver

just listened to the excerpt. sounds like Kagan and Breyer were doing their best to help Obama’s team. Made me want to throw up.


4 posted on 03/26/2012 11:54:25 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Sub-Driver

The MSM loves to show us hard luck stories of families in financial trouble, due to uninsured illnesses.

When does the MSM ever show us a family in financial trouble due to the IRS?

And then, the liberals put the IRS in charge of medical bill collections?

I think I would rather deal with a hospital bill collector than the IRS.


5 posted on 03/26/2012 11:54:26 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Sub-Driver

That this supposedly rational people, purporting to be “conservatives” are arguing for this monstrosity in the Junk media is a sign of just how deep the rot in our political system has sunk in. There is no moral, legal or rational justification for this law.


6 posted on 03/26/2012 11:55:17 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: goodnesswins
It might be an auto-tie if she did.

Remember, her job is for life...she doesn't have to k*** Obama's butt. It's why the job IS for life.

7 posted on 03/26/2012 12:02:35 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: goodnesswins

I believe no one can ‘recuse’ a party except the party, in this case, Kagen herself. Justice Roberts cannot recuse her. Elena Kagan is on the court for just this purpose and spineless people let her be appointed because of her race and the fall out from not being allowed on the court. Never ever vote for a person because of the color of their skin, black, white, yellow, red, or purple.


8 posted on 03/26/2012 12:03:27 PM PDT by yoe
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To: MNJohnnie

i bump that


9 posted on 03/26/2012 12:04:31 PM PDT by mel (There are only 2 races decent and undecent people)
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To: sloop

Obamacare lawyer laughed at in court.


10 posted on 03/26/2012 12:07:58 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Sub-Driver

OH NOEZ !!!


11 posted on 03/26/2012 12:08:16 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: goodnesswins

No one can ‘force’ a justice to do anything..........not even the Chief Justice........


12 posted on 03/26/2012 12:08:31 PM PDT by Red Badger (If the Government can make you buy health insurance, they can make you buy a Volt................)
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To: goodnesswins
That would make it more difficult for her to advise Verrilli on how to shape his argument.
13 posted on 03/26/2012 12:08:30 PM PDT by liberalh8ter (Barack has a memory like a steel trap; it's a gift ~ Michelle Obama)
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To: Kansas58
You know, you have a great idea there. I think you should contact Breitbart and suggest it to them.
I could hook you up with a few poor people that the IRS is hounding.
14 posted on 03/26/2012 12:09:53 PM PDT by lucky american
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To: Sub-Driver

Why do I think that four of them weren’t laughing?


15 posted on 03/26/2012 12:13:36 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey)
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To: Sub-Driver

Dictator Baby-Doc Barack has ALWAYS ignored The US Constitution, ESPECIALLY with Obama”care.”

The cancer of Obama”care” now extends to Obama last week choosing a “Public health expert” for the World Bank Presidency.
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The major problem with THE NINE SUPREMES is that they are chosen for political reasons by the POTUS, and then they vote as an un-accountable democracy, for a Nation that is NOT a Democracy, but a REPUBLIC.

As a result, THE NINE SUPREMES commonly vote 5 to 4 on most issues. Constitutionality is seldom a consideration, and their up-coming ruling on Obama”care” will prove my point.

Now is the time to stand and deliver to address our grievances to the dictates of the Left.

Oppose the dictates of Dictator Baby-Doc Barack!

Our ONLY chance to ABOLISH Obama”care” rests with THE NINE SUPREMES, because Romney will be defeated by Obama.

IMHO, if Romney is anointed as the RNC Nominee, THE main issue in the National Election, Obama”care,” will be taken off the campaign table. Hence, Romney will not only lose, but suffer another crushing, and sadly typical, RINO defeat.

To those who want poster ideas, here are a few ideas for demonstration posters:

Obama”care” was robo-signed by Congress, and is therefore illegal.

Obama”care” was 2700 pages long, and is still being written, but not by Congress: witness the forced contraception coverage recently added by HHS Regulators.

Obama”care” has caused “The Catholic Spring.”

Obama”care” reduces competition, and therefore is illegal by the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Law.

Obama”care” is designed to be a US Federal Government monopoly, with no competition.

Obama”care” also is illegal according to the US Constitution, because it violates our freedom of choice.

Will THE NINE SUPREMES notice any of these three violations? I seriously doubt it.

Impeached Bill Clinton proved that the US President is above US Federal Law, so anything that the President wants he gets, regardless of the Federal Laws that he has violated.


16 posted on 03/26/2012 12:15:31 PM PDT by Graewoulf ((Dictator Baby-Doc Barack's obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Sub-Driver
“General Verrilli, today you are arguing that the penalty is not a tax. Tomorrow you are going to be back and you will be arguing that the penalty is a tax,” said Justice Samuel Alito, in one of the few laugh lines throughout the 90 minutes of argument Monday.

Who supplied the rim shot?

17 posted on 03/26/2012 12:20:04 PM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Payback for that State of the Union address?


18 posted on 03/26/2012 12:21:00 PM PDT by McGruff (Sarah...Sarah...Sarah!)
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To: yoe
Never ever vote for a person because of the color of their skin

I believe Justice Kagan is white. It is Justice Sotomayor who is of minority race.

19 posted on 03/26/2012 12:21:18 PM PDT by etcb
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To: yoe

Kagan is white and Jewish. What is your point?


20 posted on 03/26/2012 12:23:59 PM PDT by SatinDoll (No Foreign Nationals as our President!)
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