Skip to comments.Why Are Ron Paul's Followers So Touchy?
Posted on 01/02/2012 12:19:23 PM PST by Kaslin
I know that every candidate has passionate supporters, but its obvious that Ron Pauls followers are especially passionate to the point of being downright touchy whenever he is strongly criticized. Or am I being unfair in my assessment?
Last week, I received an email via Townhall from an apparent Ron Paul supporter. He wrote, You want war with Iran send your own [expletive] kids, not mine. Stop sucking up to Isreal [sic]. What a piece of [expletive] this Townhall spews. One can clearly see your [sic] for the Tea Party of Hate. I know becuase [sic] of your hate for Ron Paul.
Now, the funny thing is that, in several dozen Townhall articles written in 2011, I mentioned Iran a total of twice (in passing, at that), I mentioned the Tea Party twice (in the space of one article, without criticism or endorsement), and most importantly, I never once mentioned the name of Ron Paul. Not once! Yet somehow I am fashioned a Ron Paul hater.
Obviously, this is just one email from an anti-Israel, anti-Tea Party, profanity-using, spelling-challenged reader, and in no way do I judge Ron Paul or the rest of his supporters by one foolish email. Of course not. And yet, theres something all too familiar about this pro-Paul email, specifically, its unusually rabid tone.
It is an open secret that no one has supporters who are more devoted, loyal, or committed than Ron Paul, and if other candidates had followers as dedicated as his, the current political landscape would look very different.
So is that the answer to my question? Is it simply that Pauls followers are more passionate than others, implying that they will also be more defensive and even touchy?
Or is this overly simplistic? Perhaps the real issue is that, for years, the media has seemingly failed to give Paul his due, giving other candidates more coverage and attention and even time to respond in public debates. And so Pauls followers have simply had it with being slighted, becoming especially sensitive to criticism.
Or maybe Pauls supporters have emulated some of his own style, being more didactic than dynamic and more cantankerous than charismatic? Maybe this is one the reasons they are attracted to him?
Or could it be that as a libertarian, he gives voice to causes and stands up for values that few other candidates believe in or espouse? Although he is a long-time politician, he is also outside the main stream on many key issues, and so, he is not only embraced as a political candidate but also as a champion of the people, an anti-establishment hero to be defended and backed with tenacity and zeal. Its not every candidate who writes a book on Revolution and really means it. (Hey, when he talks about the need for revolutionary change, hes speaking my language too.)
Or is it something else? Could it be that his positions are so extreme that it leaves his followers vulnerable and defensive? After all, when your candidate downplays the threat of radical Islam (even though its adherents probably surpass the adult population of America in number), when he chooses not to recognize the very real danger of a nuclear weapon in the hands of Iran (despite all the blood currently on Irans hands), when one of his former senior aides, Eric Dondero, claims that Paul is anti-Israel, how can his supporters not be hyper-sensitive to criticism? (According to Dondero, while Paul is neither a racist nor an anti-Semite, he is most certainly Anti-Israel, and Anti-Israeli in general. He wishes the Israeli state did not exist at all. . . . He sides with the Palestinians, and supports their calls for the abolishment of the Jewish state, and the return of Israel, all of it, to the Arabs.)
I actually have no axe to grind when it comes to Ron Paul, nor do I have a dog in this fight. Is he really anti-Israel, or is there a solid answer to the charges against him? Are his foreign policies naïve, or does he really understand the nature of anti-American blowback? Are some of his radical monetary proposals the very thing we need, or is he arguing for changes that can never occur? Has he been wishy-washy on important social issues like homosexual activism, or does he really espouse conservative morality? And is he a man of trustworthy character, or is he being dishonest when he disavows knowledge of many of his past newsletters?
These are questions for others to answer, and despite the hostile comments that can be expected in response to this article, I am not hostile to Ron Paul. My question has to do with his followers.
Why are they so touchy? Or am I being unfair?
The better question: Why does Ron Paul have followers??
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Why are they so touchy? It’s the drugs.
Because they don't meet the IQ requirements to be Insane Clown Posse fans?
It's the crack.
I think the biggest attraction is that he has been saying the same things for 20yrs as he’s saying today, consistently, right or wrong.
The worst that is said about the other candidates is that they are flip-floppers or hypocrites or merely idiots.
Not a Ron Paul supporter...but I know I’d be a bit touchy if my candidate (if I had one) was off handedly dismissed as a nut w/o explanation.
I think conservatives should hold themselves to a higher standard than liberals. Simply stating “Ron Paul is a nutter” without any evidence to support that statement is no more valid than yelling “Bush lied, people died” when discussing the war
I’ve noticed this too, even from friends who support him. I think the reason for the defensiveness is simple. They realize he is a glass cannon - powerful in some respects, impractically fragile in others.. He makes some very cogent, valid points about liberty and limited government. He also makes some indefensible Lyndon LaRouche type magical mystery tours. Don’t kick the wheels on the glass cannon. They want it to shoot before it breaks.
‘even on FR their candidate is dismissed as a “loon” and a “racist anti-semite”’
My 1/8 of a cent... He is a Constitutional Purist, that means sovereign nations are sovereign regardless of their danger or our opinion of their danger to others. Every day I log on to FR and see many rabid anti- RP posts calling his supporters and the man himself a host of names. I look at The Constitution and find he is much closer to having true Constitutional ideas than most. Makes you see just how far we have strayed from the Original Intent by transferring wealth to whatever the cause de jour is. I have run into candidate pimpers on the board lately that support people I cannot imagine supporting. I think fear is driving people into some state of irrational behavior, hence the name calling. Romney & Huntsman supporters make me scratch my head. Obviously, FR has become infected with Libs. I call them FRINOS. Maybe after this cycle, sanity and debate will return. I never knew about the Federal Reserve Scam until a RP supporter discussed it with me. Now I could have just labeled him crazy and trusted the establishment on that one. I chose to listen find the truth for myself. This debate goes on in my house because my DH thinks only we can save Israel, while I trust God.
Lyndon LaRouche also has maniacally faithful supporters.
“The impression I get is that the GOP establishment is more afraid of Ron Paul than he’s afraid of them. If they continue to talk conservative while delivering Obama-lite, they should be afraid, very afraid.”
bet they will also support the black panthers
Really? Is this your first Ron Paul thread, people explain all the time, yet the supporters dismiss the evidence.
Mommy didn’t love them and daddy was never home? They’re tired of living in Mom’s basement? Obama hasn’t legalized pot and same-sex marriage yet?
“Dont kick the wheels on the glass cannon.”
I think it’s more basic than this. I’ve seen the same sensitivity with single-issue activists, who are so personally invested in their cause-du-jour that they lose their personal identities.
You don’t dare point out to an Earth First! activist the harm they’re doing in pursuit of utopia. You don’t dare point out the racism and sexism inherent in “affirmative action”. You don’t dare point out their intolerance of heterosexuals to gay activists.
When people lose their identities from fusing themselves into a cause or candidate, that’s all they have left. And shaking their foundation may bring unpredictable results.
Because they are defending the indefensible. It always makes people touchy.
Ron Paul IS NOT a conservative - period.
The GOP, sane America are afraid of Paul because he has delusional foreign policy ideas.
How could anyone with a brain not fear him over these issues?
He has nothing to contribute to the conservative debate because he is not a conservative, all Paul does is muddy the waters of sanity.
Without explanation? Just click the Ron Paul keywords here and you'll see hundreds of explanations. From Ron Paul claiming that Israel created Hamas and is secretly behind Islamic terrorism, to his saying the border fence is secretly meant to 'keep Americans in', to saying that your money contains secret tracking devices, to praising David Duke, to saying that there is no fundamental right to life in the Constitution (that it is a State thing), to calling Reagan a 'failure..','..who makes Carter look Conservative', to saying that Iran has every right to block international shipping lanes and if they do, it is our fault, to saying the Mossad may be behind the 93 WTC bombing, etc....
A book could be written on the explanations given.
“They realize he is a glass cannon ...”
New imagery for me. I like it.
Yes, I remember the LaRouchies from my college days. The Fusion Energy Foundation was a group that made regular appearances at New Jersey Institute of Technology. They were about as “out there” as the Moonies. The same FEF people have been seen at Newark Airport hawkind Lyndon LaRouche books on how the Royal Family were running a heroin distribution network. Major cult-like mannerism.
He's been fingered by the mob?
Paul followers are either deliberately ignorant or actually agree with him. Neither speaks well for them.
Exile him and his supporters! Preferably to Pluto.
I don't think a Repub or a conservative wrote that.
So, maybe there's your answer.
Oh please, that is one of those 'lies told often enough..'. He bastardizes the Constitution the way Fred Phelps bastardizes the Bible. He picks and chooses and twists the Constitution to fit whatever the whim is of the day. In many cases, he overtly rejects parts of the Constitution. Just because he uses the word over and over, doesn't mean he has a clue about it. He reminds me of college kids wearing Che shirts talking about all they think Che stood for.
Borrowing 43 cents for every federal dollar spent makes some people upset. 16 trillion in debt with unfunded liabilities for another 75 trillion makes some people upset. No knock laws, hate speech laws, property seizures and now warrentless searches makes some people upset, go figure.
Throughout my Bible, He has never enlisted another government to come to their aid. He claims to be their only hope. I could be wrong on that one, of course. Throughout their history it has been suffer and cry out to God, not to the US government.
Perhaps. I only know one truly avid supporter. A very intelligent, educated, professional whose thinking is complex and sophisticated. Impractically and unrealistically so, in many cases. He is anything but a mindless zealot, but he can be very defensive about his candidates (fatal) flaws. He only wants to look at Paul’s (legitimate) strengths regarding limited and open government.
I have heard some Paul supporters on radio though, who really do fit the template of single issue obsessives such as you describe.
A more credible candidate who would really get hold of limiting the size, scope and malevolence of the federal government would pull Paul’s fuse, but so far none have emerged, or cannot get their point out effectively.
quit following me
Libertarian’s and Liberal’s are tolerant of ,and open minded towards, anyone who agrees with them 100% of the time.
That is a distortion “constitutional purist” that paulbots state all the time, it simple is not true.
I saw this saying the other day and it was brilliant,
“Ron Paul is to the Constitution as Fred Phelps is to the Bible.”
Bingo. He has pretty much lived off his rhetoric for the past three to four decades with only very brief stints in medicine. Back when he had his 'ghostwritten' (lol) newsletters, he and his family were earning about a million a year off them. Selling books and writing newsletters means you don't actually have to accomplish anything, you just yack. About as effective on substantial policy as the guy in a coffee shop rambling about the ills of the world. As Winston Churchill once said, at some point you have to start judging results.
I hate being called "touchy" even more than I hate being called a "paultard". I'm sensitive like that.
Wow, whoever coined that must be friggin brilliant. LOL :->
How about the fact that he thinks Bradley Manning is a patriot? Does that make him a nut? How about the fact that he blames 9/11 on the US and not bin Laden? Does that make him a nut?
...and Earmark king Paul has been right in the middle of it for the past 30 years and has accomplished jack and squat about it. He is no more effective than the guy in everyone’s hometown coffee shop rambling in the corner about the ills of the world.
As Winston Churchill once said, at some point you have to start judging results.
“He is anything but a mindless zealot...”
Paul supporters do come in all shapes and sizes, but I have to go with the percentages personally experienced.
You should’ve have seen them at CPAC. Mostly fitting the same demographic; young, idealistic, inexperienced, and naive.
Lies, such as? I cannot think of any politician who does not twist The Constitution. Phelps, I do not know. So who is your ideal Constitutional Conservative? I am asking sincerely. Some RP folks tried to draft me? into their ranks years ago, unsuccessfully. Instead of name calling and insults we had many rather robust debates, learning a lot. I am having trouble getting behind any candidate right now. I did like Cain because abolishing the 14th is a great start, but we have to have someone with integrity. Who is that to you?
I can’t dispute that.