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Boy in 2002 incident denies abuse: Sandusky lawyer
Reuters ^ | Nov.14, 2011 | Edith Honan, Ernest Scheyder, James Kelleher and Kristina Cooke

Posted on 11/14/2011 8:43:02 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY

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To: Cvengr

Do you consider this a state or federal issue? Do we like in many other areas of criminal law need to federalize this area? Are you a conservative?


141 posted on 11/14/2011 10:26:17 PM PST by JLS (How to turn a recession into a depression: elect a Dem president with a big majorities in Congress)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Speaking as someone in SEC football country, this scandal has finally freed us from having to hear announcers lecture us for the 5000th time about what a paragon of integrity Joe Paterno is and how no other college program is, ever was, or ever will be as clean as Penn State. “Thank God Almighty, we’re free at last.”


142 posted on 11/14/2011 10:27:49 PM PST by GAgal
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To: JLS

I’m doubt those observations really assuage the pain of family members and victims.


143 posted on 11/14/2011 10:28:19 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Cvengr

What family members? You don’t think Sandusky would abuse boys that came from regular families? He made sure these boys had no parents.


144 posted on 11/14/2011 10:29:24 PM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: Cvengr
Please do tell me what person is not outraged by the allegations, if true?

What you are missing was that except for the 1998 and 2002 allegations, (which so far we only know Schultz -- the head of campus police -- knew about, and no one else) there was no connection between the principal actors in this case. The only connecting link in all of them was Jerry Sandusky.

The 1998 incident was not actionable. The 2002 incident may or may not have been accurately described to Schultz. So there is no "corruption" or "extent."

145 posted on 11/14/2011 10:30:26 PM PST by FredZarguna (McQueary, who watched what he testified was a rape in progress, and did nothing, is still coaching.)
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To: JLS

Obama has made it a federal issue by legitimizing homosexuality in the military. Since homosexuality relies upon recruitment to further their agenda, pedophilia is one of their most encouraged campaigns, albeit unspoken in public.


146 posted on 11/14/2011 10:31:24 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: JLS

What did I glaze over? Victims 1-8 (so far)... anal sex, oral sex, hands jobs, all with children. Two employees of the university eye-witnessing sex acts with children. I’ve read every word of it. Go ahead, convince me there’s even the remotest possibility that all of these people are independently colluding to frame Jarry Sandusky. Please. Make the case for reasonable doubt. I’m listening.


147 posted on 11/14/2011 10:31:30 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: FredZarguna

I’ve seen the ugly cult mentality. Ohio State is the same.


148 posted on 11/14/2011 10:32:20 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: dfwgator

It is foolish to believe a child will never have a family in their lifetime, even if they were orphans.


149 posted on 11/14/2011 10:34:04 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Williams
When/if you read the Grand Jury presentments, more than one victim has claimed behavior by Sandusky common to the incidents when the child tried to shower further away from Snadusky. These victims also testified that Sandusky committed sexual assault on them. Now, some of the same people who are touting the veracity of Herman Cain's accusers are pleading we should not believe the children Sandusky victimized. Something really smells rancid with a few of these posters trying to dissemble what is in the Grand Jury Presentments.

One further note: Sanduskuy is the only legitimate source for the names of those he victimized, since the names have been sealed by the court, so the sleazy lawyer who had NBC's help tonight issued a threat that other victims could be 'outed' soon. NBC is as low on the gutter scale as any traiters to American could be. But those trying to defend this sexual predator and his sleazy lawyer are pushing for vermin status.

150 posted on 11/14/2011 10:35:04 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: Cvengr

Or a mother who is too f’d up on crack to care, and a father who doesn’t even know who his son is....those are the youths Sandusky targeted.


151 posted on 11/14/2011 10:35:10 PM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
Again with the rumors, though not surprising considering the quality of your posts. He's not in "witness protection."

As for the rest of your silly reply, a "whistleblower" is someone who calls a halt to a corrupt or illegal practice in an organization by courageously coming forward. McQueary did not do that or anything remotely resembling that.

The whistleblower in this case is a very brave kid at Central Mountain High School. McQueary didn't blow the whistle on anything; he complied with a subpoena, at which point he may or may not have told the GJ a self-serving lie.

152 posted on 11/14/2011 10:36:50 PM PST by FredZarguna (McQueary, who watched what he testified was a rape in progress, and did nothing, is still coaching.)
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To: Cvengr

“I’m doubt those observations really assuage the pain of family members and victims.”

I can not imagine a more leftist response. You make my case about this. Again is this a federal issue to you or is it a state criminal matter? Or as the lefty you are does the existence of victims trump everything else and we should spend an infinite amount of tax payer money?

There are victims, Paterno must go. There are victims, Paterno’s name must be removed from the BIg 12 football trophy. There are victims, the federal government must step in. There are victims, we must rush to judgement. There are victims, there can be no cross examination of witnesses to see if the victims actually are victims.

You spout the Dim line exactly. Again this is why we end up with more and more and more and more government.


153 posted on 11/14/2011 10:37:13 PM PST by JLS (How to turn a recession into a depression: elect a Dem president with a big majorities in Congress)
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To: Williams

I think the evidence gathered regarding Sandusky’s pursuit of Victim 1 will be very powerful. The boy entered high school and tried to end contact with Sandusky, but Sandusky aggressively stalked him via numerous calls to his home, showing up at his school and having him called out of study hall to meet with him, etc. This is stalker behavior imo, and adds credence to his claims, which include the wrestling coach’s eye witness account of finding them lying face to face together in the weight room “practicing wrestling moves” according to the startled Sandusky.


154 posted on 11/14/2011 10:37:28 PM PST by GAgal
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

There is ONE eyewitness, and there is hearsay. Nice try.


155 posted on 11/14/2011 10:37:58 PM PST by FredZarguna (McQueary, who watched what he testified was a rape in progress, and did nothing, is still coaching.)
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To: FredZarguna

I see. The winningest coach of all times knows nothing of pertinence about his team members.

OK, have it your way.

Paterno was simply an incompetent lucky fellow. One who happened to facilitate criminal behavior of his juniors unknowingly, for over a decade, due to his lack of wherewithal, and still nobody really knows about it. /s


156 posted on 11/14/2011 10:39:03 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

As I have said in several posts, I am not defending Sandusky at all. It is up to Sandusky to defend himself, but he has that right. The founders of this country particularly Jefferson and Madison felt it was important that he have that right.


157 posted on 11/14/2011 10:41:06 PM PST by JLS (How to turn a recession into a depression: elect a Dem president with a big majorities in Congress)
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To: FredZarguna

You’ve already dismissed the janitor who reported Victim 8? On what basis?


158 posted on 11/14/2011 10:42:19 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: MHGinTN

The hypocrisy of people believing Herman’s accusers and defending Sandusky is no different from those doubting his accusers and assuming Sandusky’s guilt.

Same bullshit, different angle.


159 posted on 11/14/2011 10:42:55 PM PST by Realness
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To: MHGinTN
We might make the analogy that Mike Nifong also had a Grand Jury, and many of the FReepers who refused to believe that indictment are all too willing to claim every word in the current document is Gospel.

As for the vermin crap, if everyone who won't join your lynch mob is vermin, then, yeah, I'm vermin. This is not evidence. This is an accusation. That's all. No evidence has been heard by any trier of fact in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.

160 posted on 11/14/2011 10:43:39 PM PST by FredZarguna (Paterno and Spanier were railroaded on the basis of hearsay; those who call this just are vermin.)
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