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Boy in 2002 incident denies abuse: Sandusky lawyer
Reuters ^ | Nov.14, 2011 | Edith Honan, Ernest Scheyder, James Kelleher and Kristina Cooke

Posted on 11/14/2011 8:43:02 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY

STATE COLLEGE, Pa (Reuters) - The lawyer for the Penn State football coach charged with child sex abuse said in an interview on Monday the boy at the center of a 2002 incident detailed in the grand jury's report had been identified and said it never happened.

Jerry Sandusky, the former defensive coordinator for the Penn State Nittany Lions, was arrested more than a week ago on charges he sexually abused eight young boys over a 15-year period.

Speaking to sportscaster Bob Costas, Joe Amendola, who represents Sandusky, said "we anticipate we're going to have at least several of those kids come forward and say, 'This never happened.'"

Sandusky, in a telephone interview with Costas that aired at the same time, acknowledged he had horsed around and showered with children involved in the Second Mile charity he founded.

But he denied he was a pedophile.

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KEYWORDS: conspiracy; denial; pedophiles; pedstate; pennstate; psu; sandusky; teflondon
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To: JLS

Actually you know one other thing: None of the principals involved has ever backed up McQueary’s story that he told them of a rape.


101 posted on 11/14/2011 9:51:08 PM PST by FredZarguna (McQueary, who watched what he testified was a rape in progress, and did nothing, is still coaching.)
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To: buccaneer81

Hey conspiracy theorist: He is still on the coaching staff, and has hired an employment issues lawyer.


102 posted on 11/14/2011 9:52:21 PM PST by FredZarguna (McQueary, who watched what he testified was a rape in progress, and did nothing, is still coaching.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
He's such a jagoff that he stands a very good chance of winning a Pulitzer.

Our two FRiends from PA remind me of a huge number of Western and Central PA residents I used to deal with for years. They worship Penn State and they dislike "outsiders" who diss anything about their area.

103 posted on 11/14/2011 9:52:46 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: buccaneer81

Well:

1. With your post you are in violation of Free Republic etiquette. I am not as tough as some here on this point. Some would yell at you on this thread and report you.

2. I am not a Sandusky apologist.


104 posted on 11/14/2011 9:53:37 PM PST by JLS (How to turn a recession into a depression: elect a Dem president with a big majorities in Congress)
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To: FredZarguna
Really? Yunz need to keep up:

Penn State assistant Mike McQueary tells players he's out as coach

105 posted on 11/14/2011 9:55:09 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: JLS

Report away.


106 posted on 11/14/2011 9:56:59 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I personally know that at the age of 25, you do not admit to being molested as a male by another male. It is the kiss of death to your ego, and your sexuality. To this day, I tell no one but family, and that because my siblings were also molested by the same person. Truth be known, nobody in my family would ever tell the tale outside of the family. They would most likely deny it ever happened. Put them on a stage, and they would dummy up.


107 posted on 11/14/2011 9:57:21 PM PST by runninglips (Republicans = 99 lb weaklings of politics. ProgressiveRepublicansInConservativeCostume)
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To: buccaneer81

He didn’t say he wished he was dead because he committed sexual assault. If he had he would have been arrested on the spot.


108 posted on 11/14/2011 9:57:27 PM PST by FredZarguna (McQueary, who watched what he testified was a rape in progress, and did nothing, is still coaching.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

“Where’d you guys go to school?”

Again embarrassingly for you I already answered that question 8 post before you asked it. To elaborate I am a graduate of the Universities of Richmond and Florida. As with the material on these allegations, once again you might well be better served by reading more and posting less.


109 posted on 11/14/2011 9:57:27 PM PST by JLS (How to turn a recession into a depression: elect a Dem president with a big majorities in Congress)
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To: FredZarguna

McQueary’s still there because he has whistleblower status. You knew that, right?


110 posted on 11/14/2011 9:58:03 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: FredZarguna

You’re just embarrassing yourself now.


111 posted on 11/14/2011 9:58:19 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: JLS

Gee, maybe we’ll get a federal law to outlaw homosexual activity, especially with young boys and older adults. I guess that would be difficult for some people to accept. /s


112 posted on 11/14/2011 9:58:27 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: runninglips

To clarify, being molested as a child, will seldom be admitted to by a man in his 20’s, maybe into his 30’s.


113 posted on 11/14/2011 9:58:47 PM PST by runninglips (Republicans = 99 lb weaklings of politics. ProgressiveRepublicansInConservativeCostume)
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To: JLS

I don’t read your posts unless they’re directed at me. And I’ll live with the shame of that for the rest of my days.


114 posted on 11/14/2011 10:00:52 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

I agree with this post. Someone is only innocent until proven guilty in court. The rest of us are free draw whatever conclusion we want. On the other hand, the issue here is whether it might turn out the government could be wrong.

I am always willing to allow for the possibility that the government is wrong. But then I believe in freedom and that the government needs proof to take away the liberty of free citizens. Clearly despite the name “FreeRepublic” many here do not from time to time.


115 posted on 11/14/2011 10:04:33 PM PST by JLS (How to turn a recession into a depression: elect a Dem president with a big majorities in Congress)
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To: GAgal

IIRC, two on the janitoprial staff for the athletic facilities also are eye witnesses, according to the Grand Jury Presentments.


116 posted on 11/14/2011 10:05:35 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: FredZarguna

Why and How could anyone “else connected to the case” support the claim of a sole witness?

I have not read McQueary’s father’s testimony.(if it exists)


117 posted on 11/14/2011 10:07:14 PM PST by 2ndamendmentpa
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To: MHGinTN

Somebody will get to those janitors as well.


118 posted on 11/14/2011 10:07:20 PM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

“I don’t read your posts unless they’re directed at me. And I’ll live with the shame of that for the rest of my days.”

Again embarrassingly for you, my post 84 was in fact directed to you 8 posts in advance of your post 92 in which you asked where I went to school implying PSU as the answer. Your ability to embarrass yourself by posting rather than reading seems boundless.


119 posted on 11/14/2011 10:07:46 PM PST by JLS (How to turn a recession into a depression: elect a Dem president with a big majorities in Congress)
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To: dfwgator
I'm sure that he did. And quite likely the much vilified Joe Paterno -- source of all evil in the galaxy -- told them he wouldn't give his assistant a recommendation, and that was the end of it.

Based on the Grand Jury report, I envision a 1999 meeting that went very much like this: "The DA may not have had sufficient evidence to prosecute, and CPS may have declined to go any further, but I am going to see to it that you are never head coach of this program, and that you never work for another team in the NCAA. SERS has a pension buyout going that will allow you to retire on 87% of your income if you get out now. I suggest you take it. It's the best deal you're going to get."

And, given that it is virtually IMPOSSIBLE to fire a university employee, especially on the basis of what were nothing more than rumors at that point for all legal purposes, that would have been a very good stand for Paterno to take. But he will get no credit from the lynch mob. No. Instead, people who know of nothing more than accusations -- many of which are in dispute right now -- are jumping to the silliest and most reprehensible kinds of conclusions about Paterno, PSU employees, the entire university, and even the "Pennsylvania State House."

120 posted on 11/14/2011 10:09:03 PM PST by FredZarguna (McQueary, who watched what he testified was a rape in progress, and did nothing, is still coaching.)
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To: preamble

He’s probably guilty but I’ve tried to warn many times on here, don’t assume you know the truth based on initial media reports.

I wasn’t in that shower, don’t know sandusky or the alleged victims, have never been to Penn State. Just maybe that disqualifies me from rendering final judgment based on what I hear on tv.


121 posted on 11/14/2011 10:09:19 PM PST by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: GeronL

Don’t doubt there are checks and cash flying around. Don’t doubt what people will recant for the right amount of cheese


122 posted on 11/14/2011 10:09:37 PM PST by When do we get liberated? (A socialist is a communist who realizes he must suck at the tit of Capitalism.)
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To: buccaneer81

And there posting has a familiar ring to it, similar to the Euro elitists who were indicted in the recent ‘child pornography’ scandal, which was so much more than a child porn issue but which got sanitized as best the whoredom of media could do with it after so much was exposed. The posters on this thread sound like that perv, Scott Ritter.


123 posted on 11/14/2011 10:11:12 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: FredZarguna
and even the "Pennsylvania State House."

And yet the governor of Pennsylvania spent plenty of time doing damage control in the media this week.

124 posted on 11/14/2011 10:11:18 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: JLS

Got me there. I didn’t get to the end of your post. Eyes glazed over. It happens sometimes.


125 posted on 11/14/2011 10:12:05 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: absalom01
McQuery could dumbed down what he actually told Paterno he saw. At that point the story Paterno relayed to his boss, Curley, and the finance director, Schultz could have been watered down. Schultz is also BTW the supervisor of the University Police, so Paterno did go to the police. According to the Grand Jury report, there were meetings between Schultz, Curley and McQuery - Paterno wasn't even invited.

The Sandusky problem at Penn State is a direct result of Graham Spanier's agenda for the school.

According to the Boston Herald, the media frenzy forced the trustees to fire Paterno.

I think in the rush to do something, the trustees forgot who the villians were, and my question for them is who negotiated and who approved emeritus status for Sandusky as part of his retirement package? An answer to that will define who the enablers were and whether it was part of Spanier's LGBT agenda.

126 posted on 11/14/2011 10:12:10 PM PST by OrioleFan
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To: MHGinTN

Indeed. They doth protest too much...especially given the nature of the crimes.


127 posted on 11/14/2011 10:12:51 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: When do we get liberated?

“I never knew no Godfather. I got my own family, Senator.”


128 posted on 11/14/2011 10:13:49 PM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
It's not clear whether he has whilstleblower status or not. Corbett suggested this might be the case.

But you know, he's not really a whistleblower? Right?

129 posted on 11/14/2011 10:14:17 PM PST by FredZarguna (McQueary, who watched what he testified was a rape in progress, and did nothing, is still coaching.)
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To: dfwgator
There are very powerful people who don’t want the truth to get out.

And we know how that plays out...money talks as do other means they can use to disuade with. No doubt, IMO, the more who retract the more serious and widespread the crimes into "protected" areas of influnece and power. Makes ya wonder who the fall guys will be and appointed for that.

130 posted on 11/14/2011 10:15:01 PM PST by caww
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To: buccaneer81

I’m born and raised in PA. Lived here most of my life. The reason I’ve loathed Penn State since my youth is because I’ve had to deal with them. It’s the most cultish school in the country.


131 posted on 11/14/2011 10:15:09 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: FredZarguna

I don’t know no one backed him up because I have not followed this very closely. I have followed it closely enough to know that some of these lynch mobbers here to paraphrase Ronald Reagan “know” things that are not true.

Among the wrong things they know so far in this thread the prosecutor who disappear tried to stop him when the prosector declined to press charges and the rumor of rich donors being PSU donors when the only fair reading is the donors in the rumor are donors to Sandusky’s charity.


132 posted on 11/14/2011 10:16:16 PM PST by JLS (How to turn a recession into a depression: elect a Dem president with a big majorities in Congress)
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To: Williams

Wow. Somebody who doesn’t want to jump to any conclusions. You’re going to be sorry for taking that position with this bunch.


133 posted on 11/14/2011 10:16:51 PM PST by FredZarguna (McQueary, who watched what he testified was a rape in progress, and did nothing, is still coaching.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
It’s the most cultish school in the country.

I live in a suburb of Columbus. Ohio State is every bit as bizarre and frankly, disgusting.

I know what you mean about Penn State though; my ex-wife and her brother are graduates.

134 posted on 11/14/2011 10:17:30 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: FredZarguna

Yep. For example, we were told many times that sandusky “admitted” what he did in the shower, but wasn’t prosecuted. That seems highly unlikely that he admitted to a sex act with a child. Far more likely he said he was “horsing around”. And remember being seen in the shower was the strongest evidence we’ve heard.

Not saying he’s innocent for one second. I have no idea and guess that he’s guilty.


135 posted on 11/14/2011 10:21:19 PM PST by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: FredZarguna

Paid administrative leave (when everybody else was fired) and witness protection. Sounds like he’s getting it to me.


136 posted on 11/14/2011 10:21:31 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: buccaneer81
And yet the governor of Pennsylvania spent plenty of time doing damage control in the media this week.

Well, since the Grand Jury investigation began on his watch, and since the AG is completely independent of the Governor's office, what does that have to do with the price of tea in China?

Corbett is a politician. This is a high visibility case and he has the opportunity to take a position against pedophilia. His appearing in public to whore free votes is pretty much a nobrainer.

137 posted on 11/14/2011 10:23:16 PM PST by FredZarguna (McQueary, who watched what he testified was a rape in progress, and did nothing, is still coaching.)
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To: FredZarguna

Let’s say Paterno did as you have posited, allbeit simply an example of what might have occurred.

Even with that allowed, isn’t it far more appropriate for the public to remain outraged by a system which continues to allow, even promote sexual immorality and its consequences, than to ignore them, their consequences in this particular situation over the last decade, and possibly condone their continuance and emulation by other criminals in the future?

I see nothing wrong in observing how far this corrupt system has crept. It has been a contagion which needs observation and corrective actions. Without identifying its extent, the root of the corruption is likely to spread even further.


138 posted on 11/14/2011 10:24:09 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

It is not important that you glazed over my post. It is important if you glaze over some of the information on this case and then join the lynch mob. It is important that the DA declined to prosecute him in 1998.

My view is that affect everything that follows. That affects the decisions of Paterno and everyone else at PSU.


139 posted on 11/14/2011 10:24:16 PM PST by JLS (How to turn a recession into a depression: elect a Dem president with a big majorities in Congress)
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To: buccaneer81; WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
I know what you mean about Penn State though; my ex-wife and her brother are graduates.

Thanks to both of you for a brief moment of honesty.

140 posted on 11/14/2011 10:25:18 PM PST by FredZarguna (McQueary, who watched what he testified was a rape in progress, and did nothing, is still coaching.)
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To: Cvengr

Do you consider this a state or federal issue? Do we like in many other areas of criminal law need to federalize this area? Are you a conservative?


141 posted on 11/14/2011 10:26:17 PM PST by JLS (How to turn a recession into a depression: elect a Dem president with a big majorities in Congress)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Speaking as someone in SEC football country, this scandal has finally freed us from having to hear announcers lecture us for the 5000th time about what a paragon of integrity Joe Paterno is and how no other college program is, ever was, or ever will be as clean as Penn State. “Thank God Almighty, we’re free at last.”


142 posted on 11/14/2011 10:27:49 PM PST by GAgal
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To: JLS

I’m doubt those observations really assuage the pain of family members and victims.


143 posted on 11/14/2011 10:28:19 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Cvengr

What family members? You don’t think Sandusky would abuse boys that came from regular families? He made sure these boys had no parents.


144 posted on 11/14/2011 10:29:24 PM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: Cvengr
Please do tell me what person is not outraged by the allegations, if true?

What you are missing was that except for the 1998 and 2002 allegations, (which so far we only know Schultz -- the head of campus police -- knew about, and no one else) there was no connection between the principal actors in this case. The only connecting link in all of them was Jerry Sandusky.

The 1998 incident was not actionable. The 2002 incident may or may not have been accurately described to Schultz. So there is no "corruption" or "extent."

145 posted on 11/14/2011 10:30:26 PM PST by FredZarguna (McQueary, who watched what he testified was a rape in progress, and did nothing, is still coaching.)
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To: JLS

Obama has made it a federal issue by legitimizing homosexuality in the military. Since homosexuality relies upon recruitment to further their agenda, pedophilia is one of their most encouraged campaigns, albeit unspoken in public.


146 posted on 11/14/2011 10:31:24 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: JLS

What did I glaze over? Victims 1-8 (so far)... anal sex, oral sex, hands jobs, all with children. Two employees of the university eye-witnessing sex acts with children. I’ve read every word of it. Go ahead, convince me there’s even the remotest possibility that all of these people are independently colluding to frame Jarry Sandusky. Please. Make the case for reasonable doubt. I’m listening.


147 posted on 11/14/2011 10:31:30 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: FredZarguna

I’ve seen the ugly cult mentality. Ohio State is the same.


148 posted on 11/14/2011 10:32:20 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: dfwgator

It is foolish to believe a child will never have a family in their lifetime, even if they were orphans.


149 posted on 11/14/2011 10:34:04 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Williams
When/if you read the Grand Jury presentments, more than one victim has claimed behavior by Sandusky common to the incidents when the child tried to shower further away from Snadusky. These victims also testified that Sandusky committed sexual assault on them. Now, some of the same people who are touting the veracity of Herman Cain's accusers are pleading we should not believe the children Sandusky victimized. Something really smells rancid with a few of these posters trying to dissemble what is in the Grand Jury Presentments.

One further note: Sanduskuy is the only legitimate source for the names of those he victimized, since the names have been sealed by the court, so the sleazy lawyer who had NBC's help tonight issued a threat that other victims could be 'outed' soon. NBC is as low on the gutter scale as any traiters to American could be. But those trying to defend this sexual predator and his sleazy lawyer are pushing for vermin status.

150 posted on 11/14/2011 10:35:04 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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