Skip to comments.Herman Cain: pizza boss, radio host, ballistics expert, minister. President?
Posted on 10/09/2011 5:21:04 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
He is the latest Tea Party favourite to burst through in the increasingly heated race for the Republican presidential nomination and see their poll numbers rocket them to frontrunner status.
However, unlike previous rightwing darlings such as Texas governor Rick Perry and Minnesota congresswoman Michele Bachmann, wealthy businessman Herman Cain, 65, can claim to be cut from a very different sort of cloth from the average Republican candidate.
First, he is not actually a politician. Cain, whose CV includes being a radio show host, a navy ballistics expert, a Baptist minister and a Federal Reserve official, has never held elected office in his life. His most famous job was as chief executive of the fast-food firm Godfather's Pizza.
Yet none of that seemed to matter to the cheering crowds at the Values Voter Summit in a Washington DC hotel late last week. There was much to celebrate. A Zogby opinion poll had just boosted Cain into first place in the race, with 38% of the vote, compared with 18% for former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney. Perry trailed in third place with 12%. The study even showed Cain beating President Barack Obama in a match-up by 46% to 44%.
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Being that I am a port-sider, concerning handedness not politics, I am observant when it comes to this trait in others. So, I noticed the other day that Herman Cain is left handed as well. Thereby, the odds of him becoming our next president has increased dramatically as four of our last five presidents have been left handed. Good news for sure!
I’ve never heard of Cain being a Baptist minister. He attends a Baptist church, but I don’t think he’s ever been a minister.
Oh, no! I hadn’t noticed that. Obama is left-handed. May have to reconsider my support.
IIRC, he’s an associate pastor at his church.
Four out of five ain't bad.
Cain is great on everything. The main fly in his ointment is the scrutiny he will get for his 9-9-9 plan.
I’ve already posted several threads on this and I see even CONSERVATIVES showing opposition and having serious questions and reservations.
If he can truly defend it and show that it works, he will truly deserve the presidency. If not, he will be shown to be a mere idealist not worthy of consideration.
Unfortunately, the 30 second sound byte debate isn’t going to do justice to his complicated tax plan. In fact, the attacks in the next debates are SURELY going to come his way instead of Perry’s.
He better be prepared.
Barack B H Soretoes-Obama: community disorganizer, non-functioning senator, PRESIDENT?
Had this guy pegged way back in May. I had never used my hard earned money to go to a candidate before but did for him. It’s about time we run this country like a business. I think he’ll be the Repub candidate, I also said Obama would be the candidate back when Hillary was way ahead and took some heat for that!! :) I just thought that because I went into Books A Million and his books were everywhere and there were signs here in SW Mo for Obama in people’s yards. Was very odd.
05/23/2011 POS Debit POS PUR FROM CHK FRIENDS OF HERMAN CAIN , GA
He’s an “Associate Minister” (I believe was the term I heard), but I don’t know the difference.
Given he has never held elected office, or been a general, his chances seem slim to none.
I saw people last night saying at least we know what Rick Perry stands for but what does Herman Cain stand for and I have to laugh, we all have the internet, not too hard to figure out what he stands for, he has a website! :)
Folks need to do their homework before knocking him.
I am against the 9-9-9 plan, but his site has now stated that it’s to be used as a transition to the FairTax. As I understand it the idea is to incrementally cross over to the FairTax, (part national sales tax, part income tax, then only sales tax). I disagree with the 9-9-9 plan, but support Cain. He said he was trying to unite FairTaxers and Flat Taxers (it will not), and I think he got flack for it, and has now decided to move back to the FairTax (When the 9-9-9 site first came out, it had no mention of the transition to the FairTax—Phase 2—my guess is that the 9-9-9 was decried and he re-evaluated that position, or possibly he had the idea the whole time).
I still like Cain, but that doesn’t mean I agree with every idea his campain (or just him, for that matter) puts forward.
born December 13, 1945 in Memphis, TN (Meets the Jus Soli Requirement)
Luther Cain Jr., born March 16, 1925 in TN, died March 29, 1982 in Atlanta, GA
Lenora Davis, born July 27, 1925 in GA, died August 20, 2005 in Atlanta, GA
Both parents were US Citizens at the time of his birth (Meets the Jus Sanguinis Requirement)
Herman Cain is a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN
Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama ISN'T!
“Herman Cain: pizza boss, radio host, ballistics expert, minister. President?”
Well heck, George Washington was a farmer, surveyor, general, and brew master.
I believe 9 (could be 8, saw the list on another thread), of our Presidents never held an elected office. That’s pretty substantial, and many, many Americans are tired of politics as usual.
Whether for the primaries or for the national election, should he happen to win the nomination, Cain has the least political experience of anyone on the debates stages.
We already have one novice in the Oval Office, but even he has a couple of elective political jaunts.
Running a corporation is much different than being president of the Nation.
I just don’t have enough confidence that Cain can do the job to jump on his band wagon. He is too much of an unknown quantity, politically.
He got more than double the votes of Romney, and more than triple that of Perry in the Zogby poll mentioned in the article. That’s pretty substantial.
Cain OR ANY of the declared are 200000 times better than the marxist slug in the white house now
Either of my dogs could be a better president than O
Apparently he is a minister.
Herman Cain: Im a Baptist preacher. A lot of people dont know that.
Im one of the Associate Ministers there because I was called to the ministry.
Neither of the elective offices that Obama held were "effective". He is 100% the result of affirmitive action and did nothing in his prior offices.
***We already have one novice in the Oval Office, but even he has a couple of elective political jaunts.***
We have an idiot in the Oval Office - who was elected simply because he had been processed three times through the Chicago sausage machine.
Here’s another article stating he is a minister. Hey, it’s from FR! lol
Sorry, I misread the word you used as “effective” and you actually wrote “elective”, there is a hugh difference, my apologies to you.
On-line poll? Really? When did we start taking those seriously? On yeah, when they return the desired result.. Else, it’s Zogby special sauce
Actually there have been many, I merely mentioned the one in the article. Check the sidebar for further polls.
Thank you for the link.
Several months back, when I first heard Cain I was impressed.
His idea-—9-9-9—seems reasonable, seems like the end result would take the powder away from the glib, Leland Gaunt-types pandering to envy & greed.
From his website:
“Government spending is like taking a bucket of water from the deep end of the pool, pouring it in the shallow end. Then they HOPE that the water level will CHANGE.”
I like how he incorporated HOPE-CHANGE...I like too his sense of humor, although those in the media, those guardians with their superior wisdom and virtue went to Defcon-One and launched the missiles when he was comedic. Heh!
Something like Reagan...”the missiles launch in 5-minutes... or whatever it was...hilarious.
What's the difference between never having held elective office and never fulfilling the duties of the one someone is elected to. Ten minutes as Ill. state senator before being elected to the US Senate and fifteen minutes later running for POTUS, voting "present" all along the way.
And they can at least communicate (albeit in a limited form) WITHOUT a teleprompter, lol.
That's a good thing!
Running a corporation is much different than being president of the Nation
Yes, because they have to live within their means - very, very different than our federal government.
He is too much of an unknown quantity, politically.
What do you want to know? His positions are stated at his website.
I’ll take five out of five to be saved from having to vote for a two faced “moderate” again.
As one of the net tax payers, I agree. If the Federal government were shrunk down to the level of it’s Constitutional Authority, the funds (and therefore taxation) required to run it would be so tiny and insignificant, that the source wouldn’t be quibbled over. But the income tax wasn’t really instituted to fund the government, so much as to surpress the economy (and thus influence) of the middle class over time, making us all to be eventually wards of the state (the entire aim of Progressives), serfs in poverty.
I said the source wouldn’t be quibbled over. To correct myself, it probably still would be, but it wouldn’t be as pressing an issue, and most everyone would prosper more than they are now anyway. The greatest fleecing in all of mankind (economically), is the U.S. income tax and paycheck witholding. Trillions upon trillions stolen before it was ever even seen.
I think you have to have a sense of humor to be a good leader - i.e. your reference to Reagan. First you have to get people's attention, then you have to have the substance behind it to accomplish your goals. Herman Cain has both, he's proven it his entire life, VP of Pillsbury at 34?
Reagan's trickle down philosophy wasn't immediately effective, apparently he was encouraged several times to give it up but he stuck by it - he was tenacious and that's an excellent quality for a President.
For a moment there, I thought you were referring to Rico “don’t like their last name” Perry. I mean, I know we’re “heartless” and all...
That’s one of Cain’s biggest advantages. People are fed up with politicians.
Are you seriously citing a Zogby poll as any kind of authority? Seriously?
"Capitol Hill (CNSNews.com) - Following an Election Day prediction that Democratic candidate John Kerry would win more than 300 electoral votes and the presidency, one of America's most well known polling firms continued the job Wednesday of explaining its flawed projection.
Shawnta Watson Walcott, communications director for Zogby International, joined a group of liberal Democrats at a faux congressional hearing focused on whether fraud influenced the Nov. 2 (2004) outcome.
"... it has become increasingly clear that this election has produced unprecedented levels of suspicion regarding its outcome, and we join this panel discussion in an attempt to find a resolution to these issues," said Walcott, who represented the firm's president and long time political pollster John Zogby at the forum sponsored by Democratic members of the House Judiciary Committee.
On Election Day, Zogby predicted that Kerry would win 311 electoral votes. For much of that afternoon, he also rated the state of Virginia as too close to call. Not only did President Bush end up winning Virginia by 9 percentage points over Kerry, he won 286 electoral votes, over 3.3 million popular vote more than Kerry and, of course, re-election.
But with a Rayburn House Office Building meeting room as the backdrop, Judiciary Committee Democrats, liberal special interest groups and individuals like Rainbow PUSH Coalition founder Jesse Jackson Wednesday alleged that the election had been marred by fraud and malfunctioning voting machines.
Walcott told the group assembled that Zogby International had questions of its own pertaining to the election. -- Zogby Polling Seeks Damage Control After Election Day Flub
Anybody can say anything until they are confronted with the actual decision that counts. Just like a lot of people think it would be easy to run a business until they actually have to do it. He would be surrounded with "experts" to help him make those decisions just like "The Won" and they would be leading him around by the nose in no time at all.....just as they are doing with Obama.
You beat me to it.
That anyone could question Cain's readiness with the implicit support of an obvious doofus already occupying the White House is laughable.
And of those polls, the only recent one done with any kind of statistical validity was the CBSNews poll, which showed Cain tied with Mittens 17%-17%.
By the way, do you Cain supporters share your man's zeal and admiration for Mitt Romney?
I’d like to see a list of major candidates (Democrat or Republican) who never held an elected office, and then made it to the general election and lost to someone who had held an elected office (not lost to someone else who held never held one either). We know that 8 or 9 (I believe it was 9) who never held elected office WON the Presidency, so I’m interested in how many made it to the big vote but didn’t make it, if any even exist. I’m betting it’s none. Which would mean that whether or not someone has held elected office has never been a factor in a General election. But I hope to see the numbers either way.