Skip to comments.Alien life more likely on 'Dune' planets
Posted on 09/02/2011 6:39:49 AM PDT by Red Badger
Desert planets strikingly like the world depicted in the science fiction classic "Dune" might be the more common type of habitable planet in the galaxy, rather than watery planets such as Earth, researchers suggest.
Their findings also hint that Venus might have been a habitable desert world as recently as 1 billion years ago.
Nearly everywhere there is water on Earth, there is life. As such, the search for life elsewhere in the universe has largely focused on "aqua planets" with a lot of liquid water on their surfaces either terrestrial planets largely covered with oceans, such as Earth, or theoretical "ocean planets" completely covered by a layer of water hundreds of miles deep, somewhat like thawed versions of Jupiter's moon Ganymede.
To be habitable, aqua planets must orbit their stars in a so-called "Goldilocks zone" where they are neither too hot nor too cold. If they are too far from the Sun, they freeze; if they are too close, steam builds up in their atmospheres, trapping heat that vaporizes still more water, leading to a runaway greenhouse effect that boils all the oceans off the planet, as apparently happened on Venus. Eventually, such planets get so hot, they force water vapor high enough into the atmosphere for it to get split into hydrogen and oxygen by ultraviolet light the hydrogen then escapes into space, the oxygen likely reacts with the molten surface and gets incorporated into the mantle , and the planet's atmosphere loses all its water over time.
Instead of aqua planets with abundant water on their surfaces, researchers investigated what "land planets" might be like, ones with no oceans and vast dry deserts, but perhaps oases here and there. The planet Arrakis depicted in science fiction classic "Dune" is one exceptionally well-developed example of a habitable land planet, said planetologist Kevin Zahnle at NASA Ames Research Center. Arrakis is essentially a bigger, warmer, sparsely inhabited version of Mars with a breathable oxygen atmosphere and polar regions cool and moist enough to have small water icecaps and morning dew.
The scientists reasoned the scarcity of water on a land planet might actually help it have a larger habitable zone around its star. For one thing, a land planet has less water for snow and ice that can reflect sunlight back into space. As such, it can in principle absorb more heat to better resist global freezing, enlarging the cold outer limits of its habitable zone. In addition, the dearth of water in a land planet's dry atmosphere makes it trap less heat than an aqua planet, helping it avoid a runaway greenhouse effect and expanding the inner, hotter edge of its habitable zone. Also, the less water there is in the atmosphere, the less there is for ultraviolet radiation to break up into hydrogen and oxygen.
Researcher Yutaka Abe at the University of Tokyo with Zahnle and their colleagues experimented with a number of simple three-dimensional global climate models for Earth-sized planets. For their simulations of land planets, they left the rotation rates, atmospheric pressures and carbon dioxide levels unchanged but removed oceans and vegetation, leaving behind groundwater locked underneath the surface.
The scientists discovered that a land planet's habitable zone was three times bigger than an aqua planet's. "A pale blue dot is not the only model for an Earth-like habitable planet," they report in their paper, which was recently published in the journal Astrobiology. "The first habitable planet is more likely to be a member of the land planet class than the aqua class."
When analyzing what the cold outer limits were for these worlds, Abe and his colleagues found that complete freezing of an aqua planet occurred when the amount of sunlight dipped below 72 to 90 percent of what Earth receives, depending on how its axis of the rotation was tilted toward the Sun. On the other hand, land planets were better at resisting global freezing, with sunlight dipping below 58 to 77 percent before the planet completely iced over. This means land planets could be farther away from their stars and remain potentially habitable.
When it came to the hot inner limits of these planets, the researchers calculated that liquid water could remain stable at the poles of an aqua planet its coldest areas only until the amount of sunlight it received exceeded 135 percent that of modern Earth. In comparison, liquid water could remain stable at the poles of a land planet until it received 170 percent of Earth's sunshine, meaning it could orbit closer to its star and still be habitable.
Such a land planet might be much like the fictional planet of Arrakis, "although I don't think the sandworms sound possible to me," Zahnle said. "The picture of the equatorial zone being just too hot to live at is there, as well as the poles being habitable. I would actually think that the poles would be a good deal wetter than in 'Dune' there would be more open water at the poles, maybe even small streams and lakes and such."
Planetary scientist Jim Kasting at Pennsylvania State University, who did not take part in this study, said this is clever research. However, Kasting was uncertain if these findings actually will help find new habitable planets, whether they be land or aqua. In order to tell if any worlds are habitable by our standards, they need to exhibit signs of water, and "it is not clear that there is enough water on these 'Dune' planets to be observed [by our telescopes]. So I don't think this will change our strategy for looking remotely for life."
Zahnle disagreed. "These planets might not exhibit signs of water that we can see, but they would of oxygen," he said. "Also, we're finding that water is so ubiquitous, it cannot be regarded as a signature of a planet's habitability."
If anything, since land planets can get closer to stars than aqua planets and still be habitable, Zahnle expected habitable land planets to be discovered before habitable aqua ones. The closer a planet is to its star, the faster it orbits and the more often it dims its star's light, making it easier for our telescopes to spot.
Kasting also was not convinced that small amounts of water are stable on a planetary surface. He suspected that the little water on a land planet would get sucked up by rocks or get pulled down into the mantle or both.
Zahnle agreed, "but we're not looking for planets that are habitable permanently, just ones that might be habitable long enough for life. No planet is habitable permanently, not even Earth."
Earth itself may one day become a desert world, researchers added. As our sun ages, it is brightening at a rate of 9 percent every billion years, radiation that will eventually deplete our planet's liquid water by breaking it down into hydrogen and oxygen. However, they calculated that Earth might still remain habitable in the billions of years before the Sun begins dying it might avoid the runaway greenhouse effect that made Venus unlivably hot -- and only lose about a third of its oceans before the Sun's death.
One interesting question the habitability of land planets raises is whether or not Venus, the hottest planet in the solar system, ever could have fostered life. Assuming that Venus once had oceans of liquid water, the researchers' calculations suggest "it is possible that Venus went through a period where it was a dry but habitable planet," Zahnle said.
Indeed, Venus could have persisted as a habitable land planet until as recently as roughly 1 billion years ago. Zahnle said that Venus back then would have been "very hot in the tropics, cooler and wetter at the poles. Sort of Earth-like, not a lot of carbon dioxide."
Future research can investigate precisely how habitable Venus might once have been, Zahnle added.
Mars is a desert planet. Credit: NASA/JPL/Malin Space Science Systems
The habitable zone in our solar system, compared to the habitable zone for the red dwarf star Gleise 581. Credit: ESO
Morocco dune at sunrise. Are desert worlds the more common type of habitable planet in the galaxy? Credit: wikicommons / Matanya
The Spice must flow..........................
But won’t the giant worms eat any life on these planets?
Mau’ Dib, save us...............
As long as they aren’t overtaxed by the elite giant worms
I hate the worms - don’t you hate the worms - Beetle Juice.
If Venus lost its water by being to close to the sun, how did it have water to begin with? Was it at one time, farther from the sun?
Sheeana can control the worms...
The possibilities are pretty much endless.
A while back I was reading about the theoretical possibilities of habitable zones on tidally locked planets.
I think you have a leak in your stillsuit
Yes, but the giant wheel now circling the Earth (Louis Farrakhan’s mothership) was circling Venus back then. They saw fit to move Venus to a new orbit and viola. A steambath planet!
If she can take time out from jumping Duncans bones.
That looks like whipped cream on the top of the Mars. Does that mean it is also a dessert planet?
“But wont the giant worms eat any life on these planets?”
Only if the life in question makes enough noise to attract the worm.......
A freeper used that about 10? years ago and cracked me up. I use it every chance I get. : )
If it's your stillsuit, do whatever you want in it I guess.
Doon: The Dessert Planet.
They saying the sun was cooler at the time.
It’s amazing that The GW crowd never hard about the sun getting hotter.
They saying the sun was cooler at the time.
It’s amazing that The GW crowd never hard about the sun getting hotter.
Time to start that stillsuit factory
They look like seashells to me:
Years ago I met the NASA scientists who wrote the paper on the Allen Hills meteorite. That rock had the isotopic signature of Mars and the bacteria fossils were almost exactly like certain bacteria on Earth. More evidence that Mars probably still has at least microbes in hot springs. There are extremophiles on Earth that would do just fine in an acid Martian hot spring.
I also offer bets on Europa. We might even find fish under the ice.
“as recently as 1 billion years ago”
Oh, it was that recent, eh? We just missed it :P
Physorg.com....it reads like a Marvel Comic Book writer. Let’s pretend...make up some stuff and pretend it could represent science.
You missed a vital step.
First, you make some stuff up.
Then, you make a COMPUTER MODEL of the stuff you just made up.
Finally, you can pretend it is science!
“Time to start that stillsuit factory.”
Here’s the power source:
I always wonder how anyone can determine what the necessary parameters would be for life to exist on another planet. Our sample size of habitable planets is 1. That’s hardly a sufficient sample size from which to make any generalizations about what is necessary for life to exist.
Even though our sample size of planet is ‘1’, our sample size of habitats is huge. From freezing mountaintops to the bottom of the oceans in darkness and humongous pressures and temps that would boil a lobster, we have found ‘life’ in many forms that would make space aliens look tame..............
I realize that this one example has a range within which life on this example survives. But there is a much wider range of possibilities than we have seen, and this is still only one example.
What the scientists in the article are doing is assuming that life must have the exact same composition it has on Earth, and must exist under the relative same conditions, then trying to estimate how many planets would be able to support life in the only form we know. But we do not know, nor can we, if life can only exist if it is composed of the same lipids, sugars, proteins, and nucleic acids that Earth life is composed of.
And that is what I mean by a small sample size.
If we actually begin to find planets with life on them, and we find that the biochemistry of all life is similar to Earth biochemistry, then we can start to make generalities about what form life must take, or what habitable conditions must be. But, until then, we cannot really predict where life might be found.
They seem to be forgetting an important step. How do you get all that oxygen into the atmosphere ? It required a whole lot of biological life on Aqua Planet Earth to get all that CO2 converted into O. And those biological processes required a whole lot of water.
Note: this topic is from 9/02/2011. Thanks Red Badger.
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