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Karl Rove To Sarah Palin: Get A "Thicker Skin"
Real Clear Politics ^

Posted on 08/25/2011 9:01:23 AM PDT by indianrightwinger

Karl Rove responds to controversy over his speculation if Fmr. Gov. Sarah Palin will indeed enter the GOP field. Rove said chances are she will jump in, but was not definitive in his observation.

"I'm mystified," Rove said about reaction to his speculation. "Look, she is all upset about this saying how I am trying to sabatouge her in some way. How do I speculate on her future."

"Look, if she doesn't want to be speculated about a potential presidential candidate there is an easy way to end the speculation. Simply say 'I'm not running.' Instead, every time she pops up in the public eye like she did on CNN, at the Iowa State fair a short number of days ago. she said 'I haven't made a decision.'"

"I'm just speculating that more likely than not she is going to be a candidate."

"Now I said 'I wouldn't bet a lot of money on it' because it is such a close thing and I am not privy to her thought-making process. But it is sign of enormous thin-skin that if we speculate about her, she gets upset. And I suspect if we didn't speculate about her, she would be upset and getting ways to get us to speculate about her."

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To: Joe Brower

All you have to do is listen to Rove pretend he doesn’t know of any trouble between Goerge W. Bush and Rick Perry, and he doesn’t know where that idea came from, then he makes a snide dig at Perry.

Rove is a slippery snake it was nice when he was our snake, now he’s out there basically can’t forget the good old days and causing trouble because he thinks he matters.


101 posted on 08/25/2011 9:56:26 AM PDT by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: Carling

You are correct, but that is not what this thread is about.


102 posted on 08/25/2011 9:56:41 AM PDT by Brent Calvert 03969-030 (I stand with Sarah)
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To: indianrightwinger

Carl is just too smart for the rest of dumb hicks who can’t see through his little missives. Yeah right. He is as transparent as the Big Zero. It won’t be long before he and what he thinks will be as memorable and relevant as a bygone pimple on my rump.


103 posted on 08/25/2011 9:56:41 AM PDT by kimoajax (Rack'em & Stack'em)
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To: Polybius

There you go again showing the facts to the fanatics.


104 posted on 08/25/2011 9:57:37 AM PDT by Blackandproud
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To: famousdayandyear
so superior - go f**k yourself


105 posted on 08/25/2011 9:57:37 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: indianrightwinger
Thin Skinned is not a term that describes Palin

-She has stood through a massive coordinated media attack, blaming her for murder and shooting of a congress member in AZ and labeling her stupid.

-a father and son stalker team from another state threatened to kill her.(recently arrested)

-A book publisher moved in next door to spy on her family

-person email hacked.

She is very strong, which Rove feel he needs to attack, because it is one of her many assets.

106 posted on 08/25/2011 9:57:55 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: famousdayandyear

Naw, the proper response is to either return fire in a like sarcastic manner or to just let it ride. There are times on FR where you really need to have dragonscales vs. skin.

No point in taking too much, if any offense. Some FReepers are just naturally snarky and others...well, I think you get the idea.

Anyway, welcome to FR.


107 posted on 08/25/2011 9:58:01 AM PDT by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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To: Netizen

LOL, there was even a gloat thread.

I heard him the first time he said it and figured he was probably right. He didn’t insult her or anything. Someone asked him about her and whether she enters. He was just saying it looked that way.

If he would have said she isn’t running they would have started a kerfuffel also.

I don’t understand what the original problem was.


108 posted on 08/25/2011 9:58:09 AM PDT by dforest
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To: famousdayandyear

It may well be that she intended to run, but is now reevaluating that decision once Perry jumped in the race. Just IMHO.


109 posted on 08/25/2011 9:58:38 AM PDT by nfldgirl
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To: Blackandproud

I believe an attack on an innocent child and accusations that that child was born out of incest are far worse than an attack on one’s intellect, veracity or policies, yes.


110 posted on 08/25/2011 9:58:41 AM PDT by South40 (Perry: There is a path to citizenship for ILLEGAL ALIENS who have served THEIR country)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Death threats and threats of rape, IIRC.


111 posted on 08/25/2011 9:58:59 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: indianrightwinger

Sarah Palin’s skin is plenty thick. She’s proven that. What Palin has is a healthy distrust of political operatives and establishment elites who have no soul.


112 posted on 08/25/2011 9:59:24 AM PDT by upsdriver (to undo the damage the "intellectual elites" have done. . . . . Sarah Palin for President!)
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To: RitaOK
Insulting newcomers is part of his gig when they disagree with the Palin bots.

I aim to please, Rita.

113 posted on 08/25/2011 9:59:32 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
I don't begrudge Palin capitalizing on her public image. She is a dynamic personality and is a hard worker. She also clearly likes being in the limelight, which is fine as well. She simply won't beat Obama in a general election IMO, though, and that's what matters for me. Well, that and watching her FR cheerleaders bash any other GOP candidate via the same sort of smear campaign they supposedly abhor when it's directed at Sarah.
114 posted on 08/25/2011 9:59:48 AM PDT by Carling (At some point, those surrounding Obama have to realize that they are working for a psychopath)
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To: DJ MacWoW

I wish she’d vetoed the abomination of a bill that caused her all that trouble.


115 posted on 08/25/2011 9:59:58 AM PDT by hocndoc (http://WingRight.org)(I've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.)(RIAing))
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To: Psalm 73

Rove has always been overrated in my opinion. Bush II lost the popular vote and barely squeaked by a few hundred votes in FL to win in 2000. In 2004 he barely won against one of the worst democratic candidates ever, John Kerry. In 2006, the GOP was massacred in the Senate and House. In 2008, the most liberal democrat President ever was elected along with a huge democrat majority in Congress.


116 posted on 08/25/2011 10:01:14 AM PDT by Blackandproud
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To: indianrightwinger

Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t the entire reason folks are speculating about Sarah’s possible run for the White House entirely based on her own comments?

She can announce or not whenever she chooses, don’t really care one way or the other, but she is the one fueling the speculation with her ‘fire in the belly’, ‘I’ll announce sometime in the Aug Sept timeline’, and the like.

I don’t think she is being disingenuous, she is doing what she thinks will best position herself for whatever comes next.

Does anyone really think she doesn’t want America talking about her and her intentions?


117 posted on 08/25/2011 10:01:51 AM PDT by dmz
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To: Gen. Burkhalter
“she resigned” is a major, major liberal talking point that they've been yelling, whispering, saying, writing and broadcasting since the day she quit. She left for the good of the State of Alaska and for her family. I surely wish Barak Obama would do the same for the nation. And that's my reply.
118 posted on 08/25/2011 10:04:03 AM PDT by pepperdog (Why are Democrats Afraid of a Voter ID Law?)
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To: Gen. Burkhalter

As others have said already, she didn’t resign because she “couldn’t take it”, she resigned for the good of the state.

In a sterile sense, I think Gov Palin is, bar none, the best we could hope for to run for president. Unfortunately, with all due respect to your wife, it’s the catty nitpicking that, quite bluntly, mainly only women are hurling against the Governor that are her biggest weakness.

I saw someone here on FR a few days ago nitpickin about her toenails for goodness sakes, and saying her choice of toenail polish “clearly made her potential to be president questionable”. (paraphrased)

That, and when I heard some woman call into Rush’s show and say she “agreed with Sara Palin’s politics, but she behaved too much like a woman” to vote for her, has made me pretty much give up WRT Palin’s chances.

What is it with all the cattiness? It’s crazy, but it’s there. It’s sad but she is mired in it, even more than Bachmann. She has no chance, and you can thank her fellow women for that, ironically. I thought they’d be her strongest base.


119 posted on 08/25/2011 10:06:20 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: Blackandproud; Polybius

Tread carefully as the owner of this site is a “fanatic”.


120 posted on 08/25/2011 10:06:58 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: famousdayandyear
Sadly, I agree with Rove on this. For this voter, I’d really like to know if she is a candidate in 2012 or not. Can’t think of a reason why she is not letting the voters know one way or another. For me, this approach has gotten tiresome and I wonder how she would deal with a national emergency. No attacks please—I do not dislike her personally; in fact to me she is a very remarkable woman. I believe others feel the same way. IMHO

It just dawned on me that Sarah might have a darn good strategy going on.

The libs NEED to undermine announced candidates and they'd love to get their claws into Sarah as soon as possible. Yet, they are effectively muzzled by Sarah's unknown intentions.

IOW, she's driving them even crazier than they already are and I find that quite amusing.

121 posted on 08/25/2011 10:07:21 AM PDT by KittenClaws (A closed mouth gathers no foot.)
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To: trisham

And the thread is over-run with PDSers.


122 posted on 08/25/2011 10:07:30 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Carling

Did she actually get upset; or is he floating that out of thin air. What has she said or done to convey that she is/was “upset” about something?


123 posted on 08/25/2011 10:07:48 AM PDT by nfldgirl
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To: definitelynotaliberal

All of us here are familiar with the inside baseball with respects to her decision to resign as governor. The average joe in the street sees it a little differently. One day they see her as John McCain’s running mate. Then they see SP on reality shows, doing book tours, and winding up as a regular on FNC-—not to mention her daughter on Dancing with the Stars. They see the Palins cashing in on their celebrity status and they see losers like Levi Johnston trying to cash in on his connection with the family.

This morning according to rasmussenreports.com BHO thrashes SP 50% to 33%. The other GOP candidates are catching up, some ahead, others dead even or slightly behind.


124 posted on 08/25/2011 10:08:14 AM PDT by Gen. Burkhalter
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To: hocndoc
I wish she’d vetoed the abomination of a bill that caused her all that trouble.

She couldn't. She wanted government/politicians to be accountable.

125 posted on 08/25/2011 10:09:23 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: indianrightwinger

Poor Karl. I guess he knows that if she’s nominated that he won’t be getting a consulting gig from her campaign.


126 posted on 08/25/2011 10:10:27 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: DJ MacWoW

They’re panicking.


127 posted on 08/25/2011 10:10:35 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Gen. Burkhalter
But she said of SP, if she can’t handle all of the flak she was getting in Alaska, how is she going to handle it on a national level? I had no ready response.

Sarah Palin handled the "flak" brilliantly. She was being attacked on a national scale. They expected her to sit up there in Alaska and take their flak to the extent of paralyzing her and her administration. She turned the tables on them. Instead of constantly playing defense, she took the battle nationally by going on the offensive. For an example of her offensive tactic, all you have to do is look at the results of the 2010 elections and the tea party movement. People say that the tea party hasn't any leaders but I maintain Palin disproves that claim. Never apologize for Palin resigning because like I said, it was a brilliant tactical move.

128 posted on 08/25/2011 10:10:35 AM PDT by upsdriver (to undo the damage the "intellectual elites" have done. . . . . Sarah Palin for President!)
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To: Vaquero
. . .let the dead wood get each other out of the way(pawlenty is gone already)....I figure January or so is close enough...let the drooling news media wait and have their little nervous breakdowns waiting...it is hilarious to watch....

LOL! I posted something similar before I read you reply!

129 posted on 08/25/2011 10:10:49 AM PDT by KittenClaws (A closed mouth gathers no foot.)
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To: Mean Maryjean

No, she didn’t. Rove has been trying to push this talking point for months now.


130 posted on 08/25/2011 10:11:24 AM PDT by RIRed
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To: Carling
if we speculate about her, she gets upset

Sorry but I did a Google search on this. The ONLY one saying Palin is upset with Rove is....ROVE. Every article anywhere on the net about it is quoting Rove saying this crap.

131 posted on 08/25/2011 10:11:45 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Mean Maryjean
Rove floating that out of thin air

I cannot find anything anywhere validating this. Every article reporting on "Plain being up set" is an article quoting Rove saying it. I suspect Rove's ego is running away with him again

132 posted on 08/25/2011 10:14:18 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: MNJohnnie
Karl, take your own advice. As your conduct over the 2010 Delaware Senate campaign shows, you are one of the top 5 thinnest skinned people in politics.

That Delaware election was an eye opener for me. The GOP establishment elite caused that defeat. Never again will I vote for a Republican that I don't believe in just because to not vote means a Democrat victory. Screw them all. Either run a credible conservative or suffer the defeat.

133 posted on 08/25/2011 10:15:18 AM PDT by upsdriver (to undo the damage the "intellectual elites" have done. . . . . Sarah Palin for President!)
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To: trisham
Yep. Palin and the Tea Party are "We the People".

I saw a video of her from Iowa and she was saying "Ask Todd, We've never won a poll but we win elections." LOL

134 posted on 08/25/2011 10:16:19 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: bwc2221

I too used to be a Hannity fan...but no so much anymore. His radio show is nothing but a recap of Rush’s show. Hannity never seems to have any original material and he sounds like a broken record, the same stuff over and over. His show on t.v. leaves much to desired these days...the constant shrieking, yelling, arguing that goes on between he and amongst the guests is so annoying. (Are you reading this Sean? Take to heart...might improve your ratings!)


135 posted on 08/25/2011 10:16:49 AM PDT by nfldgirl
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To: indylindy
The problem here is apparently a complete creation of KARL Rove.

I did a Google search on this. The ONLY one saying Palin is upset with Rove is....ROVE. Every article anywhere on the net about it is quoting Rove saying this crap.

136 posted on 08/25/2011 10:17:09 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: indianrightwinger

Let’s say SP decides to jump in the presidential race. Obviously the first casualty will be Michelle Bachmann and eventually some of the other Tea Party favorites such as Herman Cain. SP will literally suck the oxygen out of their campaigns.

Longer term, I think SP will hurt Rick Perry taking conservative support away from him and therefore assuring Romney the nomination.


137 posted on 08/25/2011 10:17:33 AM PDT by Gen. Burkhalter
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To: DJ MacWoW
Tread carefully as the owner of this site is a “fanatic”.

Not really. He's open minded to other candidates.

We now have conservatives Bachmann and Cain officially in the race fending off RINO Romney; and Palin and Perry could possibly jump in. My hopes are with Palin, but if she decides not to run I could be happy with Bachmann or Cain. Also, if Palin does not run but Perry does, he'd probably suck all the air out of the race. Either way, Palin, Bachmann, Cain or even Perry would all be excellent alternatives to Obama the commie. Anyone but RINO Romney the big government chief architect of CommieCare!

138 posted on 08/25/2011 10:18:09 AM PDT by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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To: indianrightwinger

Karl...would you please just shut up!!!


139 posted on 08/25/2011 10:18:18 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: KittenClaws

What you said makes sense as a strategy. I’m afraid we’re beyond the strategizing stage re the media, etc. Somebody’s got to give voice to us out here in Hooterville.


140 posted on 08/25/2011 10:19:02 AM PDT by famousdayandyear
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To: Polybius
Why stand and fight when you could make millions doing silly Reality TV shows with Kate Gosselin.

Either you didn't even see that episode or didn't understand it. It was a clear comparison between a conservative (independent) mom vs. a liberal (dependent) mom. Gosselin looked like an incompetent fool.

141 posted on 08/25/2011 10:19:44 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (If you don't vote for the best candidate, you're no different than a draft-dodger.)
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To: DJ MacWoW


Run Sarah, run!


142 posted on 08/25/2011 10:20:51 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Gen. Burkhalter
All of us here are familiar with the inside baseball with respects to her decision to resign as governor.
You have more confidence in our co-nationals than I do and your demeanor towards them is more tolerant than mine. I'm unimpacted by what the average Joe in the street sees and how his view is different than mine. The average Joe in the street voted for a Biden ticket. Need I say more? The average Joe in the street believes John Kerry to be a war hero and an accomplished American. Color me unimpressed. If the occasion calls for a recitation of the facts, recite them I will because I know them. So, if it's posed to me to answer how she's going to handle it on a national level if she couldn't handle all of the flak she was getting in Alaska, I will have my ready response. It's going to be no challenge to me at all to rebut, refute and refudiate.


143 posted on 08/25/2011 10:21:17 AM PDT by definitelynotaliberal (Nov. 6, 2012 - Rebut, refute, refudiate!)
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To: Netizen
There you go again showing the facts to the fanatics.

I'll reserve judgment. The poster they were addressing is a well known PDSer.

144 posted on 08/25/2011 10:21:36 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Polybius

Wow, you said that on FR? Expect flak from Palinbots. Ton of it.


145 posted on 08/25/2011 10:21:41 AM PDT by indianrightwinger
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To: MNJohnnie

Exactly. She never addressed Rove at all in this. Palin mentioned that if anyone claimed to have “inside information” they were lying. She then said something about GOP establishment types that need to be booted out by voters in 2012. Karl’s ego led him to believe it was all about him.


146 posted on 08/25/2011 10:22:07 AM PDT by Brent Calvert 03969-030 (I stand with Sarah)
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To: indianrightwinger; Polybius

Polybius is a well known PDSer. Nothing they say is a surprise.


147 posted on 08/25/2011 10:23:17 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Louis Foxwell; Gen. Burkhalter

resigned to save her family from destitution and the state from tens of millions in frivilous lawsuits?

Problem 1, in my eyes, did she ever ask any of us concerned, caring, compassionate conservatives for legal/financial help?

Problem 2: If the ethics law Pailn “championed” (http://www.zimbio.com/Molly+McCann/articles/j-Uy5esbQws/Survival+Sarah+Palin+Enemies+Running) became the weapon of choice for her trumped-up-lawsuit opposition, should I trust other Palin-proposed legislation?


148 posted on 08/25/2011 10:24:12 AM PDT by flowerplough (Pelosi on Republicans: "They want to destroy food safety, clean air, clean water, ...")
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To: indianrightwinger
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149 posted on 08/25/2011 10:24:18 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Gen. Burkhalter
I'm sure some FReeper has said this.....

I thought Palin quitting...was because of the way AK politicians must defend lawsuits. The citizens pay.

And also were there not many totally bogus lawsuits?? But had to be litigated anyway?

It was my understanding....that she quit, thus saving the citizens of the State of AK...thousands of $$.

I dunno...I've owned positions in stocks...that went against me, and I took my losses. In order to not take MORE losses.

I've had other investments...that I got out of, before I lost my shirt. I never thought that was quitting....But always that was sound business practice.

Granted....I'm not 100% sure that's how it went down for Palin...but that is what I remember reading.

FWIW-

150 posted on 08/25/2011 10:24:45 AM PDT by Osage Orange ("Marine Sniper - You can run, but you'll just die tired!")
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