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Gang of Six Back from the Dead: Contemplating the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly in Their Budget Plan
Cato Institute ^ | 07/20/2011 | Daniel J. Mitchell

Posted on 07/20/2011 7:11:01 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

The on-again, off-again “Gang of Six” has come back on the scene and is offering a “Bipartisan Plan to Reduce Our Nation’s Deficits.”

The proposal is quite similar to the one put forth by the President’s Simpson-Bowles Commission, which isn’t too surprising since some of the same people are involved.

At this stage, all I’ve seen is this summary (A BIPARTISAN PLAN TO REDUCE OUR NATIONS DEFICITS v7), so I reserve the right to modify my analysis as more details emerge (and since I fully expect the plan to look worse when additional information is available, the following is an optimistic assessment.

The Good

The Bad

The Ugly

This quick analysis leaves many questions unanswered. I particularly look forward to getting information on the following:

  1. How fast will discretionary spending rise or fall under the caps? Will this be like the caps following the 1990 tax-hike deal, which were akin to 60-mph speed limits in a school zone? Or will the caps actually reduce spending, erasing the massive increase in discretionary spending of the Bush-Obama years?
  2. What does it mean to promise Social Security reform “if and only if the comprehensive deficit reduction bill has already received 60 votes.” Who defines reform? And why does the reform have to focus on “75-year” solvency, apparently to the exclusion of giving younger workers access to a better and more stable system?
  3. Will federal spending under the plan shrink back down to the historical average of 20 percent of GDP? And why aren’t those numbers in the summary? The document contains information of deficits and debt, but those figures are just the symptoms of excessive spending. Why aren’t we being shown the data that really matters?

Over the next few days, we’ll find out what’s really in this package, but my advice is to keep a tight hold on your wallet.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: budget; debt; debtceiling; gangofsix
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1 posted on 07/20/2011 7:11:08 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

They should contemplate the end of their careers and facing lynch mobs.


2 posted on 07/20/2011 7:18:31 AM PDT by DarthVader (That which supports Barack Hussein Obama must be sterilized and there are NO exceptions!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Shuffling deck chairs...


3 posted on 07/20/2011 7:22:26 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: DarthVader
The RINO Saxby Chambliss was on Fox this morning and as much admitted that their "plan" revolved around raising taxes and budget sleight of hand.

Take Back AMERICA!
FUBO GTFO 2012 !

4 posted on 07/20/2011 7:24:54 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Psalm 109:8 Let his days be few and let another take his office. - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: SeekAndFind

I thought Coburn bailed from these losers a couple of months ago. Now he’s back. What’s up with this??


5 posted on 07/20/2011 7:25:51 AM PDT by truthkeeper (Vote Against Barack Obama in 2012!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Well I like the good part, but the reality is that as much as we need tax reform, spending reform is even more urgent. A turd with whipped cream and a cherry on top is still a turd.


6 posted on 07/20/2011 7:26:47 AM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead.)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is a HORRIBLE deal. If the House votes this one through, there will be an incredible uproar. It won’t be Cut, Cap and Balance......it will be Raise, Increase and Spend!

Thank you Nevada for voting Reid back to the Senate! Thank you Arizona for voting McCain back to the Senate! And McConnell has already announced his retirement so he feels ZERO pressure on voting for this deal designed by DICK DURBIN!!


7 posted on 07/20/2011 7:27:51 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (Shaking My Head on a daily basis)
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To: SeekAndFind
For anyone who missed it....

America's Ruling Class -- And the Perils of Revolution By Angelo M. Codevilla

8 posted on 07/20/2011 7:29:00 AM PDT by mewzilla (Forget a third party. We need a second one.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Based upon what I heard on F&Fs the AM

Just Say NO!


9 posted on 07/20/2011 7:32:56 AM PDT by McGruff (Don't go wobbly on me now GOP leadership)
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To: SeekAndFind
I don't give a rat's a$$ what the CATO institute thinks about it.

I, along with hundreds of thousands of other Republican and Conservative votes here in Georgia put Saxby Chambliss back in office to STOP OBAMA, PERIOD!.

Chambliss has failed on his backstabbing/redemption McCain/Bush Illegal Alien Amnesty, AND he has failed us in joining this group.

I sent him an email last night unleashing holy hell on him. Budget initiations are the House's purview, not his Senate. Additionally, if it were his business, he's collaborating and pandering to Democrats and moderates.

I ended up telling him that I hope God lets me live long enough to vote against him - even at the unpleasant prospect of voting for a damned Democrat.

10 posted on 07/20/2011 7:35:19 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: SeekAndFind; mickie
Isn't it amazing that every time a crisis with a time-limit comes up there pops up a bipartisan "gang" at the last minute as if by magic?

This new "deal" the gang is offering immediately caught the approval of the media, the RINOS, even Obama himself....though none of them know all what's in it yet.

Therefore, I figure that when all these geniuses are for it, it means it's bad news.

And, we must remember the immortal words of Nancy Pelosi concerning ObamaCare, bad bills must be passed first so we can find out what's in them.

See my tag line.

Leni

11 posted on 07/20/2011 7:39:39 AM PDT by MinuteGal (We need ObamaCare Like Nancy Pelosi Needs a Halloween Mask)
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To: Free Vulcan
Well I like the good part, but the reality is that as much as we need tax reform, spending reform is even more urgent. A turd with whipped cream and a cherry on top is still a turd.

I also don't mind giving up a little in the tax reform side, but like everything else this and past Congresses do, it is all in THEIR best interest? So, they will take away the mortgage interest deduction, will allow for all of the other deductions and "credits" (another term for sharing the wealth), and will STILL not spend any less or make any meaningful reforms in the economic-strangling entitlement programs. What a useless waste of space our Senate is.

Boehner will be done if he declares this Senate deal as the "backup plan" he is now announcing in the media.
12 posted on 07/20/2011 7:40:16 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (Shaking My Head on a daily basis)
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To: Free Vulcan

Also, why can’t ANY Dems just act in a responsible way, write bills to cover one topic and sign them? Like the AMT. Would be a simple bill. Repeal the AMT. Take the vote. It was bad when it was concocted, they KNOW that it is about to affect people it was never intended to affect and they still need to tie this in with other things. Sickening.


13 posted on 07/20/2011 7:42:36 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (Shaking My Head on a daily basis)
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To: SeekAndFind

It does not suprise me. GA RINO senator Shifty er I mean Saxby Chambliss never saw a Liberal piece of legislation he didn’t like. The guy should be required to change his political affilliation to Democrat. We are going to get rid of that POS next go around.


14 posted on 07/20/2011 7:45:45 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Without entitlement reform, it is worthless.


15 posted on 07/20/2011 7:48:52 AM PDT by comebacknewt ((on second thought, never mind, go away again Newt))
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To: DarthVader

What do you call the Gang of Six Swinging from the end of ropes?

A good start.


16 posted on 07/20/2011 7:49:37 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (I'll have what the gentleman on the floor is drinking.)
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To: Eagle of Liberty

Because having grown up in a Dem controlled county that has had 30 years of bad economy, what I can tell you is Dems don’t care if they ride it into the ground, as long as they are in control when it all crashes and burns.


17 posted on 07/20/2011 8:08:08 AM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The “Keating 5” plus one..or maybe two now.


18 posted on 07/20/2011 8:18:10 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: SeekAndFind

“The Gang Of Six With Three Useful RINO Idiots”

Their main product is to provide cover for Obama.
They are helping the media portray house repuhlicans as the extremists and to build Obama up as the moderate.

They are stabbing republicans and conservatives in the back.


19 posted on 07/20/2011 8:25:33 AM PDT by Iron Munro (The more effeminate & debauched the people, the more they are fitted for a tyrannical government.)
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To: Stillwaters

I can’t imagine why Mike Crapo is committing political suicide by being a part of this, singing Kumbaya with the likes of Dick Durbin, and severely undermining the efforts of conservative House members. He needs to hear from his constituents. Here’s the URL to send him an email:

http://crapo.senate.gov/contact/email.cfm


20 posted on 07/20/2011 8:33:14 AM PDT by lonevoice (Life is short. Make fun of it.)
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