Holder's lies (Fast and Furious)

Pittsburgh Tribune-Review ^ | July 14, 2011 | Editorial

[jazusamo]

Add lying to Congress about his Justice Department's "Operation Fast and Furious" scandal to the reasons why Eric Holder must be fired as U.S. attorney general.

The idiocy of Fast and Furious -- an attempt by Justice's Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives to link illegally sold guns with Mexican drug cartels -- became gravely clear when two such rifles were found at the scene of a Border Patrol agent's December murder.

Mr. Holder mentioned Fast and Furious essentials at an anti-arms-smuggling symposium in Mexico in April 2009. Last September, a Justice document referenced such efforts --

[TigersEye]

F&F was done out of the Phoenix ATF office under the umbrella of Gunrunner. They’re not synonymous but they are related. The funding came from the same place.

ATF’s Fast and Furious Seems Colored With Shades of Iran/Contra Scandal

The operation that has put Melson in the hot seat before Congress is known as Fast and Furious, which was launched in October 2009 as an offshoot of Project Gunrunner — ATF’s larger effort to stem the flow of illegal weapons into Mexico

F&F was done out of the Phoenix ATF office under the umbrella of Gunrunner. They’re not synonymous but they are related. The funding came from the same place.

ATF’s Fast and Furious Seems Colored With Shades of Iran/Contra Scandal

The operation that has put Melson in the hot seat before Congress is known as Fast and Furious, which was launched in October 2009 as an offshoot of Project Gunrunner — ATF’s larger effort to stem the flow of illegal weapons into Mexico

[Deb]

Fast and Furious was the original operation that was legit and ran its course under Bush. It was reconstituted under Obama and Gunwalker was the cock-up operation that was designed by Holder and Obama to justify more gun restrictions.

[TigersEye]

Gunwalker-nickname given to F&F by David Codrea and Mike Vanderboegh who broke the story.

I think the ATF may have beat them to it although they aren't using the term 'gunwalker' as a noun.

The Department of Justice’s Operation Fast and Furious: Accounts of (four) ATF Agents

In that House Oversight Committee Report four ATF agents repeatedly use the terms 'gunwalking' as verbs to describe what they were doing. There is even a chapter titled "V. Gunwalking Defined: It’s Semantics"

[Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!]

I added a link to the ATF agent that testified and got fired.Will post next post

[HEM]

Here’s where I’m getting my info on confusion between Gunrunner, F&F and gunwalking:

http://www.examiner.com/gun-rights-in-national/rediscovered-infomration-on-project-gunrunner-leading-to-misconceptions

“...MISCONCEPTIONS...

A lot of them are out there concerning Gunrunner, like finding the Ogden video and the $10M funding are proof Obama ordered guns walked. No—those are only proof that a known project was authorized by the government—not in secret, but with press releases and everything.

GUNRUNNER has been well known. For a long time. See those “Journalist Guide” icons in the left margin of my WarOnGuns blog? Guess where I got the cover art to modify from? And Gunrunner is NOT synonymous with Fast and Furious—that was a component strategy presented as a sting op. that turned out to be something else.

Mike and I are concerned with gunWALKING—where the stated mission was deviated from with the criminal conspiracy we now see unfolding....”

[Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!]

Brian Terry’s Family Prepares For Funeral, Rips Obama Admin.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPopTU43kwU

Issa Grills Attorney General Holder on Operation Fast and Furious
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NqH88cSBqI

Obstruction Of Justice: Does The Justice Dept Have To Respond To A Congressional Subpoena?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VXa0wcqVBw

Who in Justice Department is Responsible for Operation Fast and Furious?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsI85G-1fb0

“Operation Fast and Furious”: Reckless Decisions, Tragic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cYeIswLQms

***One of the whistleblower’s- ATF Agent Vince Cefalu, (testifying in the video below has been fired since the hearng.***
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/06/27/

“Operation Fast and Furious: Reckless Decisions, Tragic Outcomes.” Panel 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLcNw1HV_tg&NR=1

[TigersEye]

And Gunrunner is NOT synonymous with Fast and Furious—that was a component strategy presented as a sting op.

That accords perfectly with what I posted in #21.

[MestaMachine]

They talked about *gunwalking* and that is why David and Mike renamed the op Gunwalker for their expose`.

[Hoodat]

Isn’t Holder’s Justice Dept. currently prosecuting Roger Clemens for lying to Congress?

[TigersEye]

Yes, in essence we are both correct. There was never an operation called Gunwalker but David and Mike coined that name to give the scandal itself a name. Gunrunner was and is a name of an agency-wide operation that has been in effect since the Bush administration. It's purpose is ostensibly to interdict illegal gun trafficking. It is the operation that receives funding by name. Operations like Fast and Furious and Castaway are local ATF division operations that get their funding from the over-arching program called Gunrunner.

So "walking" and "gun walking" are verbs (adjectives?) that agents themselves use to describe allowing guns to disappear into the criminal netherworld. "Gunwalker" is a noun used by the press (and coined by Dave and Mike) to describe the scandal.

[jazusamo]

Yes, and the judge declared a mistrial today because of prosecutorial misconduct, they showed evidence to the jury the judge had already ruled impermissible.

[MestaMachine]

That is the first link I post with every Gunwalker ping. Misconceptions.

[MestaMachine]

Got it.

[bayouranger]

Lying is no big deal to Moslems or Holder.
or is Holder a Moslem?

Rhetorical question. :))

A while back, when Sharia: A threat to America came out, I heard Frank Gaffney on the GGLiddy show imply that Holder was a muzzie.

I’m sure that there a more than a few in this Admin too.