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Fatal SWAT raid: just-released autopsy details Guerena's wounds
KGUN9 ^ | 6/6/2011 | Forrest Carr

Posted on 06/06/2011 2:10:29 PM PDT by petitfour

TUCSON (KGUN9-TV) - The Pima County Medical Examiner has released the official autopsy report on the death of Jose Guerena, the 26-year-old former U.S. Marine who was shot to death in a SWAT raid on May 5. The report confirms what a spokesman previously said to KGUN9 News by phone, that Guerena's body had 22 bullet entrance wounds. The report also shows that Guerena had many exit wounds as well. There were no drugs in his system.

The autopsy lists the manner of death as "homicide" caused by "multiple gunshot wounds." In the case of a Medical Examiner's report, this is a legal term that simply means the victim died at the hands of another human being. The term has no bearing on whether the shooting was justified. Separate investigations into that question are underway.

The report also notes that the body shows "no evidence of medical intervention."

It goes on to note in detail the entrance location and trajectory of each wound, most of which were on the victim's extremities.

The medical examiner found, in order:

one wound to the head, which the report describes as a graze;

one wound to the right upper chest;

one to the right lower chest;

one to the left upper abdomen;

three to the right upper arm;

one to the right elbow;

one to the right hand;

one to the left upper arm;

one to the left elbow;

one to the left forearm;

one to the left hand;

two to the right thigh;

one to the right calf,

one to the right foot;

four to the left thigh;

and one to the left foot.

(Excerpt) Read more at kgun9.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: dupnik; guerena; swat; tucson
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To: smokingfrog; Texas Fossil; Berlin_Freeper

He wasn’t charged and B_F knows it.


21 posted on 06/06/2011 2:40:07 PM PDT by Mr.Unique (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: petitfour

IMPO criminal negligence form the search warrant affidavit to serving to failure to get medical assistance....the sheriffs violated their own rules for use of deadly force..


22 posted on 06/06/2011 2:41:55 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: Westbrook

“In other words, they let him bleed out.”

Not ‘let’, ‘made’!


23 posted on 06/06/2011 2:45:23 PM PDT by chooseascreennamepat (I have a liberal arts degree, do you want fries with that?)
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To: Mr.Unique

Thanks, I did find an article stating that.

Arrested in 2009, no charges, no conviction. But now he is dead and a SWAT team looks pretty foolish how they bumbled it.

And Sheriff Dip Stick again shows how totally incompetent he is. (Remember his blaming the Tea Party for the shooting of Congresswoman Gillfords? And it turned out that the shooter was a leftie and known by Dupnik to have threatened others. In spite of that he covered for the kid because he worked near the kid’s mom.)


24 posted on 06/06/2011 2:46:39 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: petitfour

Anybody still loading with frangibles for home defense needs to reconsider what the target is likely to be. Whether it is the local S.W.A.T. or a group of thugs dressed like the local S.W.A.T., the target is probably going to be armored in some fashion. So, shoot first and shoot fast, the odds are that if local S.W.A.T. kicks in your door, you are going to die regardless.


25 posted on 06/06/2011 2:53:32 PM PDT by Big_Harry ( Starve the Beast!)
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To: Mr.Unique

It’s fun to see the badgelickers intentionally leave out critical information that doesn’t make the “perp” look like some kind of comic book bad guy.


26 posted on 06/06/2011 2:59:10 PM PDT by thecabal (The Sanction of the Victim)
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To: Talisker
"...when was the last time you actually saw footage of a SWAT team actually killing someone?"

A few months ago.

27 posted on 06/06/2011 3:06:51 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Westbrook

This is MURDER!!!! Yes it is. If the locals cover this up, then Arizona Attorney General’s Office should file murder charges against all involved including the Sheriff. Here is Tom Horne(R)phone numbers:1275 West Washington St.Phoenix, AZ 85007
602.542.5263
602.542.5002 (TDD)
877.491.5742 (toll free)
877.624.8090 (toll free TDD)
civilrightsinfo@azag.gov


28 posted on 06/06/2011 3:11:37 PM PDT by Colorado Cowgirl (God bless America!)
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To: petitfour

They updated the story after I posted, so it’s a little bit different. The reporter called the Medical Examiner to clarify about what were the fatal shots. He narrowed it down to two in particular. I was reading the article to hubby via phone since he is at work. His questions were all about what was the position of the body when it was found. It sounds like a man who was trying to get away, but that’s based on descriptions we’ve read. What was the trajectory?

For all those who were saying that the wife lied and/or exaggerated about Jose being shot 60 times, maybe they need to read this report. “The combined number of entrance and exit wounds listed in the report numbers 96.” In seven seconds. Murder.


29 posted on 06/06/2011 3:31:51 PM PDT by petitfour (Are you a Dead Fish American?)
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To: petitfour
For all those who were saying that the wife lied and/or exaggerated about Jose being shot 60 times, maybe they need to read this report. “The combined number of entrance and exit wounds listed in the report numbers 96.” In seven seconds. Murder.

Sort of massively trumps that pharmacist, huh?
30 posted on 06/06/2011 3:34:22 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: petitfour

Murderers.

How do you let a man, any man, even a very bad many lie on the floor with no medical intervention?

There is something going on with this case and it ain’t right.


31 posted on 06/06/2011 3:46:24 PM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: petitfour

Tucsonians need to get as angered as Los Angelinos during the (crack smoking) Rodney King beating. Start at Dupnik’s house!


32 posted on 06/06/2011 3:48:44 PM PDT by rwoodward ("god, guns and more ammo")
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To: aruanan

Yes, it does. And considering how they shot a man lying on the ground. The magic bullet going from left thigh to abdomen to kidney makes me think he was down. But what do I know?


33 posted on 06/06/2011 3:50:38 PM PDT by petitfour (Are you a Dead Fish American?)
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To: petitfour

A conversation picked up during the raid,

“.....ever shoot anyone?, son?”....”Why, no sir, I haven’t, I’m new to the squad.”......”Well, here’s your chance. Go in there and put a few rounds in him. Good training for you”......(sound of gun fire).....”That was great! Can I do a few more, sir?”....”Naw, one clip is enough”......


34 posted on 06/06/2011 4:16:12 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: petitfour
Does mostly legs and arms make it seem like he may have been crouching? Any clue as to the trajectory of the bullets through the body?

Sounds like that's what happened but it doesn't necessarily mean they did so intentionally. Could be more on the side of incompetence, firing dozens of rounds blindly at a target they can barely or not at all see, without knowing he's already down. Not allowing medics in for an hour and a quarter, that's another matter.

35 posted on 06/06/2011 4:16:58 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: petitfour
Wups. Cut and paste error. Firefox does that to me fairly often. I was intending to respond to where you posted "And considering how they shot a man lying on the ground. The magic bullet going from left thigh to abdomen to kidney makes me think he was down."

I was making the point that while they almost certainly shot him while he was down, that doesn't necessarily imply they knew that's what they were doing when they did it. OTOH, if so, that simply moves the problem from malice to incompetence, which isn't a big improvement.

36 posted on 06/06/2011 4:25:00 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Westbrook
Did any listen to the last shot. I came seconds after all the rest. I reckon they wanted to make sure he was dead.
37 posted on 06/06/2011 4:52:16 PM PDT by Moonbug
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To: Moonbug
Did any listen to the last shot. I came seconds after all the rest. I reckon they wanted to make sure he was dead.

I doubt it. If that were the case, why wait an hour and a quarter to allow medics access, which could be critiqued later?

38 posted on 06/06/2011 5:01:38 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Guerena's mugshot, following a 2009 arrest involving drugs and a weapon

He was released without being charged. The bond money was returned to his wife.

That post was the cheapest of cheap shots.

39 posted on 06/06/2011 5:03:19 PM PDT by PalmettoMason (Blacks are not inferior, but it is racist to hold them to the same standards as everyone else.)
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To: Westbrook

You cannot commit a criminal act under color of law. The presumption of moral behavior is not excusable by bad policy. The Nuremberg Trials proved it. Cops can’t kill just because they feel threatened, anymore than a former Marine can kill because he feels threatened living in a bad neighborhood.


40 posted on 06/06/2011 5:03:32 PM PDT by HMS Surprise (Chris Christie can go to hell.)
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