Posted on 04/28/2011 9:51:43 PM PDT by RobinMasters
The most common challenge to the authenticity of the long-form birth certificate released this week by President Obama that is circulating on the Internet focuses on the layers of images discovered when opening the document in computer image programs such as Adobe Illustrator.
While there may be other challenges to the document's authenticity that bear further scrutiny, it appears that the "layer argument" can be easily explained.
Graphic artists who addressed the issue on blogs and Web forums point out that the format in which Obama's document was released, Portable Document Format, or PDF, is composed of multiple images.
Tests on other PDF images produce an effect similar to the multiple layers extracted from Obama's document.
Hawaii Department of Health spokeswoman Janet Okubo explained to WND in an email that the certified copy issued to Obama is a photocopy on safety paper "of the original Certificate of Live Birth."
She confirmed the state's previous statement that Department of Health Director Linda Fuddy "personally witnessed the copying of the original Certificate of Live Birth and attested to the authenticity of the two copies."
Okubo added that Alvin Onaka, the state registrar, whose signature is on the Obama document, "certified the copies."
(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
Yeah...and signed by U K L LEE himself...Must be real.
Hey America!
How you like being ‘played like a fiddle’... or ukulele as the case may be?
LOL!
And....Pleople wonder why there are so many questions? The whole afair just STINKS!
Why the mangled statements from Fukino? She could have easily made a statement that was plain and definitive, but didn't.
Why release this document now after one person in in prison and another officer's career ruined?
Why send an attorney by plane to pick it up ( thus clouding the chain of evidence) when it could have been send by certified mail directly from the Department of Health?
Why release the document in a form that can be soooooo easily manipulated? This was not at all necessary.
Why not have several high resolution photographs of the **original**, in its bound volume, taken by witnesses of various parties and factions?
Well...I could go on and on.
BFL
Maybe I haven’t been paying attention.
I stopped my subscription to Farah last year after I woke up one day and realized he, like many others, is a sensationalist and I got tire of news by innuendo.
Doesn’t Farah hasn’t come with some good stuff but I think the quality of research here on FR blows his stuff away and we are better at fact checking each than he is with his staff.
I am an attorney and I used to be in the business of forensic fraud investigation. I have much experience examining documentary evidence. Unexplained coincidences bother me.
That there are striking similarities between the Lucas Smith Kenyan birth certificate and the new one provided by the White House is troublesome. Someone needs to explain how that’s possible when Lucas Smith had no access to birth information for Obama. Is he just a good guesser?
I am not claiming the Kenyan birth certificate is real, though it may be. What I’m claiming is that either someone close to Obama used the Kenyan birth certificate (long viewed as a joke by most) as a guide because they knew it would be questioned and it would tend to out Obama. Or, if the Kenyan one is actually real, perhaps Obama’s mother gave it to Hawaii in 1961 and they used it as a guide to register his birth.
I have no idea which way this went down, but something isn’t right about it. However, I don’t have to know. If I were attempting cast doubt on the validity of the new birth certificate in court, I could use the Kenyan birth certificate to poke bus-sized holes in it. The odds against those signature dates matching are astronomically high—yet they match. That’s just not a coindicence.
My point makes perfect sense when you think it through and I’m right to question it. I believe this casts significant doubt on the White House provided birth certificate. Please don’t tell me to stop with my crap. I’m not a fool.
They took an oath to defend the Constitution. Did they lie when they raised their hands and did that? What were they doing? Did they have their fingers crossed behind their backs and instead quietly whispered an oath to themselves that they would defend their perks and pensions?
When did turning a blind eye to deceit, fraud, and usurpation become part of the military code of honor? Where is the evidence that these officers sought peaceful, lawful, and legal certified clarification of Obama’s eligibility from congress, the courts, or Obama himself?
My conclusion:
If certifiable evidence proving Obama’s eligibility was not forthcoming, these eunuchs should have held a very public press conference. Laid out the lack of evidence, obfuscation, and deceit, and then promptly resigned. Then the next level of officers should have done the same all the way down to 2nd lieutenant.
Given that Obama claims that his father was a foreign national, and that his so-called “official” birth certificate is a likely forgery,( and there are passport, adoption, and social security issues,) these officers should act to seek (peaceful, legal, and lawful) *certifiable** clarification TODAY pf **ALL issues that would disqualify Obama from the presidency!!! Anything less is a betrayal of their oath before God.
This is a question regarding the birth certificate that only computer literate people can help decipher.
It concerns the anomalous “X” found in the certifying statement. Freeper GregNH is one of the many who noticed it and asked why it appears. See this link for his observation:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2711155/posts?page=1406#1406
Freeper Brown Deer took the time to greatly enlarge the certifying statement in order to view the “X” anomaly more closely. That post appears here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2711155/posts?page=1426#1426
This is the question I am asking, is it possible to make the “X” appear intentionally from the Hawaii end prior to presenting the data to the WH? Why would they do that?
Here is my theory:
Hawaii intentionally changed the certification phrase to read “TXE records” to indicate that what they are certifying is a compilation of all the data points in their base for the records of Barack Hussein Obama. So any name changes BHO made to his record, or any other changes he made, would not be reflected, only the most recent information in any particular field would be considered valid and “original.”
I am wondering if it would be possible for them to do the following:
1. Assemble the data from all the data points into a central program.
2. Take a digital photo of the hand-stamped certifying statement.
3. Transfer the digital photo to a drawing program and change the “H” in “the” to an “X”.
4. Transfer the “X” certifying statement to the assembled data page.
5. Print out the data page.
6. Photocopy the page with the accompanying security paper.
7. Scan and provide in digital form to the WH along with one white copy.
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If this is possible, then what Hawaii says they did is true and the certifying statement on the certificate validates this. Hawaii said:
“Original forms from the time of birth are used to produce computer-generated documents recognized as official birth certificates in the state of Hawaii.”
In order to fully understand this statement, you must read it in “Clintonesque” fashion:
—Notice the plural use of the word “form” — form(s)—
—Notice the use of the word FROM, consider it in the sense of a sale at a store with items FROM $7.99. There is more after that FROM.
—Now notice these words, “produce computer-generated documents”
Another words,
TXE records provided an “abstract” (translate this to mean compilation) of all the “original” FORM(S) (which dictates using the most recent amended information at any data point) —FROM— BHO’s time of birth [implied up until the present time] and put together in a digital form, ie. “computer-generated document.”
Freeper D-fendr confirmed the following in a response posts:
(1) TXE is real computer terminology that could possibly be used in an official capacity by Hawaii.
(2)D-fendr sees the “X” as clearly being an “X”, too, and not a blurred “H”.
But questions this aspect: “In my opinion, the PDF posted by the White House is a digital composite. It consists of the security background and picture elements only. It may, and likely does include a scan.” D-fendr further suggests in #169 that it would be helpful to have other long forms to compare to.
D-fendr posts found here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2711307/posts?page=168#168
Freeper Danae, who also requested her birth certificate from Hawaii recently has agreed to provide it once again in various views to help with the unraveling of this possible theory. Here is her post:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2711307/posts?page=176#176
In conclusion: those of you who do understand the compiling and manipulation of data in computerized form, is what I am proposing at all possible? If so, how likely? And even if likely, worth the effort? Could this explain at all the reasons this document as it has been presented causes such a gut reaction of “fake”?
Thank you for taking time to consider this angle presented from an admitted computer dummy. I really don’t mind being “shot down.” Just would like to know the details of why this is not possible, if it is not possible, so I can learn from my own mistakes if I have made them. Thanks.
What Texan would not have a Texas Flag on their home page? A pretend Texan, like all the Bush family. The screen name is accurate at least the CON part is.
{They took an oath to defend the Constitution. Did they lie when they raised their hands and did that? What were they doing? Did they have their fingers crossed behind their backs and instead quietly whispered an oath to themselves that they would defend their perks and pensions?}
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Remember when the Senate took a special oath before setting in judgement of president Clinton, as soon as they took the oath they ran out to the cameras and broke their solemn oath.
Democrats have pretty much by legislation, removed any requirement to swear oaths for any reason. Has anyone ever wondered why?
There is probably no greater challenge to the Constitutional Republic than the destruction of the Constitution. Letting this fraud continue, should tell you that you can trust no one in congress, because they helped perpetrate this fraud. SR 511 tells anyone with an ear to hear, exactly what has been done to our Constitution, by those that have taken an oath too protect and defend it.
God help us, because we will not be held blameless. Stand up, Speak ot, Challenge the lie, or don’t complain when they come for you. What happened in Germany, can not only happen hear, it is well under way.
Farah isn’t even on my radar. There is no doubt that the cumulative power of FR collecting, grinding and sifting every iota of information rises above any media outlet.
There is one person who is likely to know a bit of the truth out there in the HDOH — Dr. Neal Palafox.
We need some pressure on that guy to come forth with the circumstances of his firing.
Hey guys, sorry this has taken so long. Its been a crazy day here.
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR Ok, this is a new scanner, and I have not used it before... the damn thing is telling me that it is in use by another device... there IS no other device... Grrrrrrrrrrrr Its a Cannon MP6120 This should be a nobrainer.... But apparently I don’t even have that much of a brain.
I am working on it. I will get it done as soon as I can.
Let us both together say AMEN! AMEN to that!
Now let us (both together, eh?) review the actual a full text of that section of our beloved Constitution:
Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof.It is, I am sure the two of us will agree, clear that each STATE is bound to recognize the official documents and records of any other state. Although that too is somewhat limited, for example there are open questions and discord regarding subjects like homosexual marriages and divorces. And the official recognition does not apply to documents created fraudulently, although the level of proof of fraud is higher for an officially released document.
Yet in this clause, the States are clearly distinguished from the US Congress. Congress sets the standards for proof and effect of such documents and records. By that Constitutional authority Congress is certainly able to compel a full investigation into this present circumstance. To compel, under subpoena and threat of jail and fines, the appearance of witnesses and the delivery of all evidences that may be had.
Anyone know how to get a Canon MG6120 to scan??? I am going INSANE ovah heah.
Hey, FRiend! I’m sorry you are having scanner problems. I got a response back from another computer type who said he thought my theory would be debunked simply by considering the number of operations the “X/H” character would go through. I guess really re-posting your birth-certificate would just show whether another scanned birth-cert. would have layers like Obama’s, but as far as the “X” goes, because the original is suppose to have come from an ink stamp, there is always the fall-back of over inking prior to stamping. So, for me, I guess just hold off on the scanning. Unless you think there is merit in some other way. I don’t want to continue to put you out. I really do appreciate your willingness to help!
PS—I would help with the scanner, but I’m a total idiot with computers. Sorry :(
Ok, I give up for tonight, I have been beating my head against a wall for long enough today. I am about to throw the damn thing out the door!!
I KNOW there are images on the internet of the stamp. I just can’t vouch for any imagry dodads or what ever being done to the images. I wanted to get some virgin ones, and I had High Hopes because I could also scan it as a PDF on this machine. IF IT ONLY WORKED. %^(@$(*@%*@#&%$$%%#!&^%$*&#$^&^%!!!!!!!
Tomorrow, I will try again tomorrow. I will NOT throw it out the door, I will not bash a chair over it.
Yet.
Ya. Kansas is windy, because Nebraska sucks and Oklahoma blows. (In the summer).
In the winter, they switch roles.
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