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Bill Maher: Lack Of Government Health Care Leads To Crazy People Buying Guns
Mediaite ^ | 1/15/11 | Frances Martel

Posted on 01/15/2011 6:20:35 PM PST by markomalley

Like most of the media this week, Bill Maher and his Real Time panel last night spent a great deal of time trying to explain the reasons why the Arizona shootings last week occurred. And while it was clear that Jared Loughner committed the acts because of mental problems, the question was why people like him turn to violence in the first place. One suggestion Maher put on the table: America’s lack of universal health care.

The official topic at hand was gun control, and gun culture in certain parts of the country. Maher noted that it appears “half the country is armed and half isn’t,” leading to a troubling cultural divide, and unevenly distributing violent crime. Looking for a different model, the panel turned toward Canada, which has strict but not entirely prohibitive gun laws and one of the lowest crime rates in the world. Thomson Reuters Global Editor-at-Large Chrystia Freeland brought her own personal experience to the debate, having been raised in Calgary, and pointing out that, despite people owning guns (including her dad), shootings are few and far between. Keeping with the Canada theme, she also noted that bank regulations had helped Canada avoid a problematic economic situation, and that they have government-subsidized health care.

Maher pounced on this last bit to return to the topic at hand, but didn’t make the conventional connection. Many will argue that lack of adequate mental health services will keep a crazy person crazy, and thus in some cases attract them to violence and make them more likely to commit violent acts. From this skeleton of an argument, Maher constructs something slightly more elaborate, and significantly flimsier:

“Because we don’t have government health care– that’s one reason why a crazy person gets a gun, because, you know what? It’s hard for a crazy person to get a job, so therefore it’s hard for a crazy person to get health care in a country that doesn’t have government [health care].”

The argument doesn’t really speak to gun regulation at all so much as the desires of crazy people to pick up guns, so the panel steered towards debating mental health over gun control instead, but couldn’t tie them together again the way Maher was attempting to.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
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1 posted on 01/15/2011 6:20:36 PM PST by markomalley
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To: markomalley
Bill Maher: Lack Of Government Health Care Leads To Crazy People Buying Guns... Or Something

Fixed it.

2 posted on 01/15/2011 6:23:18 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun." -- Barry Soetoro, June 11, 2008)
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To: markomalley

Maher ranted on, “See, I even went out and bought one!”


3 posted on 01/15/2011 6:23:57 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: markomalley

The fact that liberals seem to encourage and enable psychosis doesn’t help much either.


4 posted on 01/15/2011 6:25:01 PM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: markomalley

If Bill Maher talks, then the public becomes more ignorant.
Bill Maher talks.
Therefore the public becomes more ignorant.


5 posted on 01/15/2011 6:25:09 PM PST by Per-Ling
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To: markomalley

But what rational explanation is there for people watching Maher in the first place?


6 posted on 01/15/2011 6:25:28 PM PST by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D.: "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: markomalley
It’s hard for a crazy person to get a job, so therefore it’s hard for a crazy person to get health care in a country that doesn’t have government [health care].”

Bull****! Arizona has AHCCCS. (Arizona Health Care Cost Containment System) Being unemployed is one way to become eligible for it. Maher needs to stick to telling his dumb jokes.

7 posted on 01/15/2011 6:25:48 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer ("New laws are always a "good idea" until the first time you have to enforce them." - Unknown)
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To: markomalley

Do you think that much stupid hurts?


8 posted on 01/15/2011 6:26:32 PM PST by GeronL (How DARE you have an opinion!!)
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To: markomalley

“”America’s lack of universal health care””

Boy! that ought to cover a host of problems in this country...it will work for the libs anyway until Maher thinks up a better reason.


9 posted on 01/15/2011 6:27:11 PM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: markomalley
Lack Of Brains Leads To Crazy People Watching Bill Maher.
10 posted on 01/15/2011 6:27:41 PM PST by Happy Rain
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To: markomalley

Maher thinks the Tucson shooting was due to lack of free health care. At least one California university chancellor thinks it was caused by Arizona’s laws attempting to address their illegal aliens problem. Michelle Obama probably thinks it was caused by fast food ... the inmates really are running the asylum.


11 posted on 01/15/2011 6:28:24 PM PST by tumblindice (Today, Zombie Czar Chris Williams' head fell off. More at 11.)
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To: markomalley

So is Maher saying that if the government would pay for it, he’d get mental health care?


12 posted on 01/15/2011 6:28:54 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: markomalley

Billy boy has never met a fallacy or leap of logic he didn’t like.

One of my all-time favorites was his “proof” that people in Socrates’ time lived longer than they do now because of the Mediterranean diet they lived on.


13 posted on 01/15/2011 6:29:30 PM PST by DemforBush (I got three passports, a couple of visas. You don't even know my real name..)
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To: markomalley

So Bill Maher is trying to rationalize the actions of a crazy person. Finally a topic on which he has some authority.


14 posted on 01/15/2011 6:30:29 PM PST by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: markomalley
Bill Maher: Lack Of Government Health Care Leads To Crazy People Buying Guns What leads to Bill Maher?
15 posted on 01/15/2011 6:30:42 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Thank you.


16 posted on 01/15/2011 6:31:15 PM PST by EBH ( Whether you eat your bread or see it vanish into a looter's stomach, is an absolute.)
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To: markomalley

LOL...what a moron.


17 posted on 01/15/2011 6:33:43 PM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: DemforBush

As Bill Buckley once said about a statement made by former Supreme Court Justice William O. Douglas: “If false analogies were horses sententious idiots might ride”.


18 posted on 01/15/2011 6:34:35 PM PST by Nucluside (ready)
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To: Texas Eagle
What leads to Bill Maher?

Well, you start with a Saturday night and a cheap bottle of wine...

19 posted on 01/15/2011 6:34:55 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer ("New laws are always a "good idea" until the first time you have to enforce them." - Unknown)
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To: markomalley
Ronald Reagan said it best: "It's not that our Liberal friends are ignorant. It's that they know so much that isn't so."

Although, in this case, it might be a little of both.

20 posted on 01/15/2011 6:35:10 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: markomalley

It’s hard for a crazy person to get a job


Bill Maher is proof it isn’t THAT difficult


21 posted on 01/15/2011 6:35:22 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Ha haaaaaa!


22 posted on 01/15/2011 6:36:43 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: markomalley

The left is so damn shortchanged, - - could someone at least inject them with some embarrassment?? Sheesh!!


23 posted on 01/15/2011 6:47:06 PM PST by trailz
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24 posted on 01/15/2011 6:47:55 PM PST by RedMDer (restoration of our honor, dignity, and freedoms will save America. - Sarah Palin)
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To: markomalley

Did I miss something or did his parents not have healthcare at all during his life? If he is a full time student he should have had coverage.


25 posted on 01/15/2011 6:53:11 PM PST by guitar Josh
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To: Thank You Rush
In 100% of the United States lunatics like Jared appears to be can get locked up and treated FOR FREE!

Bill Maher should already know that.

26 posted on 01/15/2011 6:57:59 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Secret Agent Man

Maybe he will think it’s a lollipop and blow his own brains out.


27 posted on 01/15/2011 7:01:27 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Anything is fathomable in the coke addled mind of Bill Maher. He's a joke’ not a comedian.
28 posted on 01/15/2011 7:05:01 PM PST by peeps36 (America is being destroyed by filthy traitors in the political establishment)
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To: markomalley

More proof that Liberals don’t have a clue.


29 posted on 01/15/2011 7:13:56 PM PST by From The Deer Stand
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To: markomalley

Nahh, its not the lack of Health care...its due to the fact that the Rich don’t pay their fair share of taxes!!

Class warfare is Always first, then we move onto Global Warming.

THEN we get to Health care!


30 posted on 01/15/2011 7:24:26 PM PST by R0CK3T
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To: markomalley
Canadian Premier Opts for Heart Surgery in US
31 posted on 01/15/2011 7:36:01 PM PST by Hoodat (Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. - (Rom 8:37))
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To: markomalley

A lack of oxygen to the brain leads to saying things like Bill Maher does.


32 posted on 01/15/2011 7:51:57 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: GeronL

33 posted on 01/15/2011 8:05:52 PM PST by RasterMaster (The only way to open a LIEberal mind is with a brick!)
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To: RasterMaster

truth!


34 posted on 01/15/2011 8:08:24 PM PST by GeronL (How DARE you have an opinion!!)
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To: markomalley

Lack of government (fill in the blank) causes crazy people to spout off on third-rate television shows.


35 posted on 01/15/2011 8:23:13 PM PST by MIchaelTArchangel (Obama makes me miss Jimmah Cahtah!)
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To: markomalley
If ANYONE is an expert on CRAZY PEOPLE, it's THIS CLOWN.
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This ever classy, waste of otherwise valuable protoplasm and pathetic excuse for a life form is seen here whacked out on a large quantity of booze and/or exotic chemicals in his Halloween, 2007 STEVE IRWIN get-up!

Bill Maher: Giving SCHMUCKS a bad name for 20 years!!


36 posted on 01/15/2011 8:37:34 PM PST by Dick Bachert (2012 CAN'T COME SOON ENOUGH FOR ME. HOW ABOUT YOU?)
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To: markomalley

Wow! That expert of all things political and societal can make things so clear. It all seems so simple when Bill comes up with this, I mean, explains how this happens. We’re so lucky to have him.


37 posted on 01/15/2011 9:15:09 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Be instrumental in the REVIVAL that will heal our land. ><BCC>)
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To: markomalley

You know, Maher should at least check around before he makes his regular, predictably stupid statements. Here in Wisconsin we are heavily armed. And that includes many Democrats. There are tons of guns in the Badger State, but outside of Milwaukee and Madison, very little violence. Maher proves he’s an ignoramus every time he opens his mouth.


38 posted on 01/15/2011 9:46:41 PM PST by driftless2 (For long-term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: markomalley
Bill Maher

Mental illness, has to be.

39 posted on 01/16/2011 7:08:54 AM PST by Loyal Buckeye
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To: markomalley

Well Maher, we now have obama in charge and obamacare has been passed. Why are there so many “crazy” homesless people running around the country? Penn Station has officially become a homeless shelter. Every morning commuters literally have to wade through them. It’s a real obamaville there. I’ve been doing the commute for 20 years and I’ve never seen this many crazy homeless people. What has obama done for them - or the unemployed in the black communities - for that matter? When are you going to wake up and see your “messiah” for what he is? A total fraud.


40 posted on 01/16/2011 7:15:29 AM PST by jersey117
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