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BREAKING NEWS! The abdication of the West the sting at Cancun ( Global Warming?????)
JoNova ^ | December 9th, 2010 | joanne

Posted on 12/09/2010 12:20:16 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

The power hungry tyrants learnt from Copenhagen. They realized that they have a far better chance of success by underselling the expectations and sliding in long impenetrable documents in front of underling bureaucrats. Due to the importance of this I have reproduced Christopher Monckton’s words in full as reported at SPPI (see below).

The UN wants nothing less than 1.5% of our GDP.

That’s $212 billion from the USA every year ($2700 per family of 4).

That’s $32 billion from the UK every year ($2000 per family of 4).

That’s $13 billion from Australia every year ($2400 per family of 4).

Figures calculated from the CIA world Factbook

The Secretariat will have the power not merely to invite nation states to perform their obligations under the climate-change Convention, but to compel them to do so. Nation states are to be ordered to collect, compile and submit vast quantities of information, in a manner and form to be specified by the secretariat and its growing army of subsidiary bodies.

Please send this message on and email politicians. Australian elected representatives are listed here. Once this is quietly established, how will any single nation back out even if it’s citizen vote to do so (other than the US with the military might to match the UN?)

If you would prefer to spend that money on other things. Now is the time to protest. The more money they get, the harder they are to stop.

–  Joanne Nova

The abdication of the West

December 9th, 2010

The Viscount Monckton of Brenchley

From the SPPI Blog

Cancun, Mexico

I usually add some gentle humor to these reports. Not today. Read this and weep. Notwithstanding the carefully-orchestrated propaganda to the effect that nothing much will be decided at the UN climate conference here in Cancun, the decisions to be made here this week signal nothing less than the abdication of the West. The governing class in what was once proudly known as the Free World is silently, casually letting go of liberty, prosperity, and even democracy itself. No one in the mainstream media will tell you this, not so much because they do not see as because they do not bl**dy care.

The 33-page Note (FCCC/AWGLCA/2010/CRP.2) by the Chairman of the “Ad-Hoc Working Group on Long-Term Co-operative Action under the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change”, entitled Possible elements of the outcome, reveals all. Or, rather, it reveals nothing, unless one understands what the complex, obscure jargon means. All UNFCCC documents at the Cancun conference, specifically including Possible elements of the outcome, are drafted with what is called “transparent impenetrability”. The intention is that the documents should not be understood, but that later we shall be told they were in the public domain all the time, so what are we complaining about?

Since the Chairman’s note is very long, I shall summarize the main points:

Finance: Western countries will jointly provide $100 billion a year by 2020 to an unnamed new UN Fund. To keep this sum up with GDP growth, the West may commit itself to pay 1.5% of GDP to the UN each year. That is more than twice the 0.7% of GDP that the UN has recommended the West to pay in foreign aid for the past half century. Several hundred of the provisions in the Chairman’s note will impose huge financial costs on the nations of the West.

There is so much more…

The world-government Secretariat: In all but name, the UN Convention’s Secretariat will become a world government directly controlling hundreds of global, supranational, regional, national and sub-national bureaucracies. It will receive the vast sum of taxpayers’ money ostensibly paid by the West to the Third World for adaptation to the supposed adverse consequences of imagined (and imaginary) “global warming”.

Bureaucracy: Hundreds of new interlocking bureaucracies answerable to the world-government Secretariat will vastly extend its power and reach. In an explicit mirroring of the European Union’s method of enforcing the will of its unelected Kommissars on the groaning peoples of that benighted continent, the civil servants of nation states will come to see themselves as servants of the greater empire of the Secretariat, carrying out its ukases and diktats whatever the will of the nation states’ governments. Many of the new bureaucracies are disguised as “capacity-building in developing countries”. This has nothing to do with growing the economies or industries of poorer nations. It turns out to mean the installation of hundreds of bureaucratic offices answerable to the Secretariat in numerous countries around the world. Who pays? You do, gentle taxpayer. Babylon, Byzantium, the later Ottoman Empire, the formidable bureaucracy of Nazi Germany, the vast empire of 27,000 paper-shufflers at the European Union: add all of these together and multiply by 100 and you still do not reach the sheer size, cost, power and reach of these new subsidiaries of the Secretariat. In addition to multiple new bureaucracies in every one of the 193 states parties to the Convention, there will be an Adaptation Framework Body, a Least Developed Countries’ Adaptation Planning Body, an Adaptation Committee, Regional Network Centers, an International Center to Enhance Adaptation Research, National Adaptation Institutions, a Body to Clarify Assumptions and Conditions in National Greenhouse-Gas Emission Reductions Pledges, a Negotiating Body for an Overall Level of Ambition for Aggregate Emission Reductions and Individual Targets, an Office to Revise Guidelines for National Communications, a Multilateral Communications Process Office, a Body for the Process to Develop Modalities and Guidelines for the Compliance Process, a Registry of Nationally Appropriate Mitigation Actions by Developed Countries, a Body to Supervise the Process for Understanding Diversity of Mitigation Actions Submitted and Support Needed, a Body to Develop Modalities for the Registry of Nationally Appropriate Mitigation Actions, an Office of International Consultation and Analysis; an Office to Conduct a Work Program for Development of Various Modalities and Guidelines; a network of Developing Countries’ National Forest Strategy Action Plan Offices; a network of National Forest Reference Emission Level And/Or Forest Reference Level Bodies; a network of National Forest Monitoring Systems; an Office of the Work Program on Agriculture to Enhance the Implementation of Article 4, Paragraph 1(c) of the Convention Taking Into Account Paragraph 31; one or more Mechanisms to Establish a Market-Based Approach to Enhance the Cost-Effectiveness Of And To Promote Mitigation Actions; a Forum on the Impact of the Implementation of Response Measures; a Work Program Office to Address the Impact of the Implementation of Response Measures; a Body to Review the Needs of Developing Countries for Financial Resources to Address Climate Change and Identify Options for Mobilization of Those Resources; a Fund in Addition to the Copenhagen Green Fund; an Interim Secretariat for the Design Phase of the New Fund; a New Body to Assist the Conference of the Parties in Exercising its Functions with respect to the Financial Mechanism; a Body to Launch a Process to Further Define the Roles and Functions of the New Body to Assist the Conference of the Parties in Exercising its Functions with respect to the Financial Mechanism; a Technology Executive Committee; a Climate Technology Center and Network; a Network of National, Regional, Sectoral and International Technology Centers, Networks, Organization and Initiatives; Twinning Centers for Promotion of North-South, South-South and Triangular Partnerships with a View to Encouraging Co-operative Research and Development; an Expert Workshop on the Operational Modalities of the Technology Mechanism; an International Insurance Facility; a Work Program Body for Policy Approaches and Positive Incentives on Issues Relating to Reducing Emissions from Deforestation and Forest Degradation in Developing Countries; a Body to Implement a Work Program on the Impact of the Implementation of Response Measures; and a Body to Develop Modalities for the Operationalization of the Work Program on the Impact of the Implementation of Response Measures.

The world government’s powers: The Secretariat will have the power not merely to invite nation states to perform their obligations under the climate-change Convention, but to compel them to do so. Nation states are to be ordered to collect, compile and submit vast quantities of information, in a manner and form to be specified by the secretariat and its growing army of subsidiary bodies. Between them, they will be given new powers to verify the information, to review it and, on the basis of that review, to tell nation states what they can and cannot do.

Continuous expansion: The verb “enhance”, in its various forms, occurs at least 28 times in the Chairman’s note, Similar verbs, such as “strengthen” and “extend”, and adjectives such as “scaled-up”, “new” and “additional”, are also frequently deployed, particularly in relation to funding at the expense of Western taxpayers. If all of the “enhancements” proposed in the note were carried out, the cost would comfortably exceed the annual $100 billion (or, for that matter, the 1.5% of GDP) that the note mentions as the cost to the West over the coming decade.

Intellectual property in inventions: Holders of patents, particularly in fields related to “global warming” and its mitigation, will be obliged to transfer the benefits of their inventiveness to developing countries without payment of royalties. This is nowhere explicitly stated in the Chairman’s note, but the transfer of technology is mentioned about 20 times in the draft, suggesting that the intention is still to carry out the explicit provision in the defunct Copenhagen Treaty draft of 15 September 2009 to this effect.

Insurance: The Secretariat proposes, in effect, to interfere so greatly in the operation of the worldwide insurance market that it will cease to be a free market, with the usual severely adverse consequences to everyone in that market.

The free market: The failed Copenhagen Treaty draft stipulated that the “government” that would be established would have the power to set the rules of all formerly free markets. There would be no such thing as free markets any more. In Cancun, the Chairman’s note merely says that various “market mechanisms” may be exploited by the Secretariat and by the parties to the Convention: but references to these “market mechanisms” are frequent enough to suggest that the intention remains to stamp out free markets worldwide.

Knowledge is power: The Chairman’s note contains numerous references to a multitude of new as well as existing obligations on nation states to provide information to the Secretariat, in a form and manner which it will dictate. The hand of the EU is very visible here. It grabbed power from the member-states in four stages: first, acting merely as a secretariat to ensure stable supplies of coal and steel to rebuild Europe after the Second World War; then as a registry requiring member states to supply it with ever more information; then as a review body determining on the basis of the information supplied by the member states whether they were complying with their obligations on the ever-lengthier and more complex body of European treaties; and finally as the ultimate law-making authority, to which all elected parliaments, explicitly including the European “Parliament”, were and are subject. Under the Cancun propsoals, the Secretariat is following the path that the plague of EU officials here have no doubt eagerly advised it to follow. It is now taking numerous powers not merely to require information from nation states but to hold them to account for their supposed international obligations under the climate-change Convention on the basis of the information the nations are now to be compelled to supply.

Propaganda: The Chairman’s note contains several mentions of the notion that the peoples of the world need to be told more about climate change. Here, too, there is a parallel with the EU, which administers a propaganda fund of some $250 million a year purely to advertise its own wonderfulness to an increasingly sceptical population. The IPCC already spends millions every year with PR agencies, asking them to find new ways of making its blood-curdling message more widely understood and feared among ordinary people. The Secretariat already has the advantage of an uncritical, acquiescent, scientifically illiterate, economically innumerate and just plain dumb news media: now it will have a propaganda fund to play with as well.

Damage caused by The Process: At the insistence of sensible nation states such as the United States, the Czech Republic, Japan, Canada, and Italy, the Cancun outcome acknowledges that The Process is causing, and will cause, considerable economic damage, delicately described in the Chairman’s note as “unintended side-effects of implementing climate-change response measures”. The solution? Consideration of the catastrophic economic consequences of the Secretariat’s heroically lunatic decisions will fall under the control of – yup – the Secretariat. Admire its sheer gall.

Damage to world trade: As the power, wealth and reach of the Secretariat grow, it finds itself rubbing uncomfortably up against other supranational organizations. In particular, the World Trade Organization has been getting antsy about the numerous aspects of the Secretariat’s proposals that constitute restrictions on international trade. At several points, the Chairman’s note expresses the “decision” – in fact, no more than an opinion and a questionable one at that – that the Secretariat’s policies are not restrictive of trade.

The Canute provision: The conference will reaffirm the decision of its predecessor in Copenhagen this time last year “to hold the increase in global average temperature below 2 degrees Celsius above pre-industrial levels”, just like that. In fact, temperature in central England, and by implication globally, rose 2.2 Celsius in the 40 years 1695-1735, as the Sun began to recover from its 11,400-year activity minimum, and rose again by 0.74 C in the 20th century. There has been no warming in the 21st century, but we are already well over 2 Celsius degrees above pre-industrial levels. The Canute provision, as some delegates have dubbed it (after the Danish king of early England who famously taught his courtiers the limitations of his power and, a fortiori, theirs when he set up his throne on the beach and commanded sea level not to rise, whereupon the tide came in as usual and wet the royal feet), shows the disconnect between The Process and reality.

Omissions: There are several highly-significant omissions, which jointly and severally establish that the central intent of The Process no longer has anything to do with the climate, if it ever had. The objective is greatly to empower and still more greatly to enrich the international classe politique at the expense of the peoples of the West, using the climate as a pretext, so as to copy the European Union by installing in perpetuity what some delegates here are calling “transnational perma-Socialism” beyond the reach or recall of any electorate. Here are the key omissions:

How did this monstrous transfer of power from once-proud, once-sovereign, once-democratic nations to the corrupt, unelected Secretariat come about? The story begins with Sir Maurice Strong, an immensely wealthy UN bureaucrat from Canada who, a quarter of a century ago, established the IPCC as an intergovernmental, political body rather than as a scientific body precisely so that it could be maneuvered into assisting in the UN’s long-term aim, reiterated at a summit of senior UN officials this May by Ban Ki-Moon himself, of extinguishing national sovereignty and establishing a world government.

The Process began in earnest in 1988, when the IPCC was established. Shortly thereafter, on a June day in Washington DC deliberately chosen by Al Gore because it was unusually hot, his political ally and financial benefactor James Hansen appeared before a Congressional committee and put before it a wildly-exaggerated graph predicting global warming over the coming 20 or 30 years. Yet June 2008, the 20th anniversary of his testimony, was cooler globally than June 1988, and worldwide warming has happened at less than half the rate he predicted.

The Rio Earth Summit in 1992 allowed environmental groups and world “leaders” to grandstand together. From that summit emerged the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change, which began holding annual conferences on “global warming”.

The Kyoto Protocol in 1997 committed its signatories to cut back their national CO2 emissions to 1990 levels by 2012. Most are not going to make it. The US Senate, with Al Gore as its president, voted 95-0 to reject any treaty such as Kyoto, which bound only the West while leaving developing nations such as China to emit carbon dioxide without constraint.

Very little progress had been made by the time of the Bali conference in 2007: but at that conference a “road-map” was constructed that was to lead to a binding international treaty in Copenhagen in 2009.

Just one problem with that. The US Constitution provides that, even if the President has signed a treaty, his signature is meaningless unless the treaty has been debated in the Senate, which must ratify it by the votes of at least 67 of the 100 Senators. It became clear to everyone, after the Obama administration failed to cajole or bully even 60 Senators into passing the Waxman/Markey cap-and-tax Bill, that no climate treaty would pass the Senate.

Worse, the Secretariat grossly overreached itself. Believing its own propaganda to the effect that none but a few vexatious, fossil-funded sceptics believed that “global warming” would be small enough to be harmless, it drafted and posted up on its website a 186-page draft Treaty of Copenhagen, proposing to turn itself into an unelected world government with unlimited powers to impose direct taxation on member nations without representation, recourse or recall, to interfere directly in the environmental policies of individual nations, and to sweep away all free markets worldwide, replacing them with itself as the sole rulemaker in every marketplace (treaty draft, annex 1, articles 36-38). Some quotations from the draft reveal the sheer ambition of the UN:

“The scheme for the new institutional arrangement under the Convention will be based on three basic pillars: government; facilitative mechanism; and financial mechanism. … The government will be ruled by the Conference of the Parties to the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change with the support of a new subsidiary body on adaptation, and of an Executive Board responsible for the management of the new funds and the related facilitative processes and bodies.” (Copenhagen Treaty draft of September 15, 2009, para. 38).

The three central powers that the UN had hoped to grant itself under the guise of Saving The Planet from alleged climate catastrophe were as follows:

“Government”: This use of the word “government” is the first use of the term to describe a world government in any international treaty draft.

“Financial mechanism”: The “financial mechanism” was a delicate phrase to describe a new power of the UN to levy unlimited taxation directly on the peoples of its member states: taxation without representation, and on a global scale.

“Facilitative mechanism”: This mechanism would, for the first time, have given the UN he power directly to coerce and compel compliance on the part of its member states, by force if necessary. The Treaty draft describes it as –

“… a facilitative mechanism drawn up to facilitate the design, adoption and carrying out of public policies, as the prevailing instrument, to which the market rules and related dynamics should be subordinate.”

In short, there was to be a New World Order, with a “government” having at its command a “financial mechanism” in the form of unlimited rights to tax the world’s citizen’s directly, and a “facilitative mechanism” that would bring the rules of all formerly free markets under the direct control of the new UN “government”, aided by an already-expanding series of bureaucracies.

At no point anywhere in the 186 pages of the Treaty draft do the words “democracy”, “election”, “ballot”, or “vote” appear. As the EU has already demonstrated, the transfer of powers from sovereign democracies to supranational entities brings those democracies to an end. At the supranational level, in the UN, in the EU and in the proposed world government, decisions are not made by anyone whom we, the voters, have elected to make such decisions.

The exposure of the draft treaty in major international news media panicked the UN into abandoning the draft before the Copenhagen conference even began. Instead, the UN is now legislating crabwise, as the European Union does, with a series of successive annual agreements, the last of which was the Copenhagen Accord, each transferring more power and wealth from individual nations to its supranational bureaucracy. The latest of these agreements is being finalized here in Cancun.

The European Union, which has stealthily stamped out democracy over the past half-century by a series of treaties each transferring a little more power and wealth from elected hands in the member states to unelected hands in Brussels, has been advising the Secretariat on how to do the same on a global scale.

After the spectacular bloody nose the Secretariat got in Copenhagen, it was most anxious not to endure a second failure in Cancun. To this end, it obtained the agreement of the German government to host a monthly series of conferences in Bonn in the early part of 2010, some of which were open to outside observers and some were behind closed doors in a comfortable suburban palace, where the new way of legislating for the world – in secret – first came into use.

The Chinese regime, anxious to get a piece of the action, agreed to host an additional session in Tientsin a few weeks ago. The purpose of this near-perpetual international junketing – which the national delegates have greatly enjoyed at our expense – was to make sure that nearly all of the elements in the Cancun agreement were firmly in draft and agreed well before Cancun, so as to avoid what too many journalists have tediously and obviously described as a “Mexican stand-off”.

It is precisely because of all this massive and expensive preparation that the note by the Chairman, whose main points are summarized above, may well reflect what is finally decided and announced here in a couple of days’ time. The Chairman is not simply guessing: this Note reflects what the Secretariat now confidently expects to get away with.

However, following the Copenhagen disaster, our grim future New Masters are taking no chances. They persuaded their friends in the mainstream news media, who cannot now easily back out of their original declarations of blind faith in the Church of “Global Warming” and are as anxious not to lose face as the Secretariat is, to put it about that at Cancun this year and even at Durban next year very little of substance will occur.

The intention is that, after not one but two international climate conferences, the second of them in Rio in 2012 on the 20th anniversary of the Earth Summit that began it all, the Secretariat will have become so wealthy and will have accreted so much power to itself that no one – not even the US Senate – will dare to resist ratifying the Treaty of Rio that brings democracy to an end worldwide and fulfils Lord Mandelson’s recent statement that “we are now living in a post-democratic age.”

Over my dead body. The people know best what is best for the people. The governing class no doubt knows what is best for the governing class, but does not necessarily know what is best for the people, and must always be kept in check by the ballot-box.

If we are to have a world government at all (and, as the science of “global warming” alarm continues to collapse, the current pretext for world domination by a privileged few is wearing more than a little thin), then it is essential that the world government should be an elected government, and that, as Article 1, Section 1 of the US Constitution makes plain when it grants “All legislative power” to the elected Congress and to the now-elected Senate, none shall make laws for the world or impose taxes upon the world except those whom the people of the world have elected by universal secret ballot.

How can we, the people, defeat the Secretariat and keep the democracy we love? Simply by informing our elected representatives of the scope, ambition, and detail of what is in the Cancun agreement. The agreement will not be called a “Treaty”, because the Senate, particularly after the mid-term elections, will not pass it. But it can still be imposed upon us by the heavily Left-leaning Supreme Court, which no longer makes any pretence at judicial impartiality and may well decide, even if Congress does not, that the Cancun agreement shall stand part of US law on the ground that it is “customary international law”.

What to do? Send this blog posting to your legislators. It is their power, as well as yours, that is being taken away; their democracy, as well as yours, that will perish from the Earth unless this burgeoning nonsense is stopped.

Thanks to the Science and Public Policy Institute. See the blog entry and other reports by Monckton.

Thanks to Helen for alerting me.

The short killer summary: The Skeptics Handbook. The most deadly point: The Missing Hot Spot.



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To: HenpeckedCon
Actually come to think of it we’re both wrong. It’s 2/3’s of the Senators present.

Watch for the Senate to vote on this while the GOP senators are at a caucus meeting being held hostage by terrorists...

51 posted on 12/09/2010 1:25:54 PM PST by raybbr (Someone who invades another country is NOT an immigrant - illegal or otherwise.)
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To: Reeses
One of the 3 branches of our federal government is a "polit-bureau of 9" and it functions better than the other two.

One of the reasons the Judicial branch doesn't appear to be a "dysfunctional" as you believe the others to be is that they are pretty much sequestered from the daily political give-and-take wrangling that goes into making law. If they were to simply pronounce the law they would be dictators and the will of the people would be ignored.

I also disagree that it is a particularly conservative court at this point. With so many 5-4 decisions on crucial rulings I think it is a split court becoming more liberal all the time. One more liberal voice on that court and it would become a liberal voice of dictatorship.

You are calling for tyranny. In no way can I or true conservatives support it.

52 posted on 12/09/2010 1:27:09 PM PST by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality. Save America From Bankruptcy.)
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To: GonzoGOP
Ruth Ginsburg and a Wise Latina are not my idea of a stable, conservative and corruption free government.

They only got there from rigged public elections. If George Washington had been 1 of 9 kings for life, we would never have gotten into this bankrupt mess. At least with a 9-king system it's crystal clear when it's time to emigrate: when the conservative king majority drops below 5. You would only have to emigrate at most once in your lifetime, a reasonably stable system.

53 posted on 12/09/2010 1:29:10 PM PST by Reeses
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

This sh!t’s gotta be stopped!


54 posted on 12/09/2010 1:38:15 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
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To: Reeses
You would only have to emigrate at most once in your lifetime, a reasonably stable system.

And where the heck are you going to emigrate to? Mexico, China, how about North Korea, they have a nice stable King there. If i'm going to throw away everything I have worked for it isn't going to be to run away. It will be to fight.

Our problem is not too little stability, it is too darn much stability. Even in a "Tsunami" election year over 80% of the congress got reelected. We need a way to put controlled instability back into the system. That is what elections were meant to do. It is what they need to do again, before we are forced to resort to uncontrolled instability.
55 posted on 12/09/2010 1:40:31 PM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The future is UN controlled and so has our past been since the end of WWII. Why do you think we have this idiotic migration process world-wide? I don’t see any migration in the direction of Muslim hellholes — why must 3rd world citizens migrate to the West and not to places like Saudi and Iran where there is more money and where foreign labor is required. The whole world migration process is a UN design for the destruction of the West.

If the new Congress doesn’t put a stop to this nonsense we voted for nothing.


56 posted on 12/09/2010 1:40:56 PM PST by 353FMG (Soon, the peoples of the West will have to choose between ISLAM and their country.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The UN wants nothing less than 1.5% of our GDP.

That’s $212 billion from the USA every year ($2700 per family of 4).

That’s $32 billion from the UK every year ($2000 per family of 4).

That’s $13 billion from Australia every year ($2400 per family of 4).

Figures calculated from the CIA world Factbook

The Secretariat will have the power not merely to invite nation states to perform their obligations under the climate-change Convention, but to compel them to do so. Nation states are to be ordered to collect, compile and submit vast quantities of information, in a manner and form to be specified by the secretariat and its growing army of subsidiary bodies.


57 posted on 12/09/2010 1:45:38 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: 353FMG

Without the US as a member the UN will collapse. We must demand that we get out, RIGHT NOW!


58 posted on 12/09/2010 1:47:31 PM PST by B4Ranch (Do NOT remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; B4Ranch
April 15th from now on to be known as "Molon Labe, You Bastards" Day.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

59 posted on 12/09/2010 1:47:50 PM PST by The Comedian (Government: Saving people from freedom since time immemorial.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach


60 posted on 12/09/2010 1:50:23 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: paulycy
You are calling for tyranny. In no way can I or true conservatives support it.

We already have tyranny. Did you vote for you and your family to get strip searched every time you travel? 9 kings with 9 votes should insure sufficient give and take, checks and balances. Being sworn to moderate wealth, what would motivate the majority of kings to collectively loot the taxpayers?

At the nation's founding Alexander Hamilton knew the fatal flaw of democracy are argued for a "President for life" design. A quote from James Madison: "In framing a system which we wish to last for ages, we shd. not lose sight of the changes which ages will produce. An increase of population will of necessity increase the proportion of those who will labour under all the hardships of life, & secretly sigh for a more equal distribution of its blessings. These may in time outnumber those who are placed above the feelings of indigence. According to the equal laws of suffrage, the power will slide into the hands of the former."

We have reached that point.

61 posted on 12/09/2010 2:05:25 PM PST by Reeses
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
U.N. has worn out its welcome !!

As soon as the Republicans take office --> send them packing

Equal amount from each Western family reads like tithing.

Lots of Muslim countries belong to the U.N. Is Sharia next?

62 posted on 12/09/2010 2:11:04 PM PST by xtinct (The will of God will never take you where the Grace of God will not protect you..Be Strong Patriots!)
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To: opentalk

B-A-L-O-N-E-Y!


63 posted on 12/09/2010 2:15:01 PM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Zeneta

.
The Stockpile Song

Take the flag down from the place
where it led the human race.
Run up U.N. white and blue.
That’s what your “leaders” want to do.
They don’t seem to understand
we are a patriotic band.
So spread the word across the land
and stockpile weapons while you can.

Public schools were first to go.
They’re run by leftists as you know.
So school your children safe at home
far from the propaganda zone.
For they don’t want to understand
we are a family loving band.
So spread the word around the land
and stockpile knowledge while you can.

Stage and screen and on T.V.
they’re mocking God in all we see.
They may close your church some day
but they can’t stop us when we pray.
For they refuse to understand
we are a Jesus loving band.
So spread the word across the land
and stockpile Bibles while you can.

Somewhere there near your hometown
professor’s robe or judge’s gown,
there is a leftist who must go.
So lock and load and let them know.
For time will come they’ll understand
we are a patriotic band.
So spread the word across the land
and stockpile weapons while you can.
.


64 posted on 12/09/2010 2:21:20 PM PST by Touch Not the Cat (Where is the light? Wonder if it's weeping somewhere...)
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To: Touch Not the Cat

Glad it ain’t just me....


65 posted on 12/09/2010 2:41:06 PM PST by wendy1946
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Major PING! PUKE!
66 posted on 12/09/2010 2:43:13 PM PST by tubebender (If you can not read, this thread will tell you how to get help)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

sfl


67 posted on 12/09/2010 2:43:32 PM PST by phockthis
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To: LucyT

One World Government! If anyone doubts the prophecy of the Bible they need to rethink or be lost.


68 posted on 12/09/2010 2:43:53 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: Windflier

Why can’t we (Israel) leave first? Race you to the door.


69 posted on 12/09/2010 2:53:06 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XrRyqses5U)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Thank you, Lord Mockton.


70 posted on 12/09/2010 3:24:39 PM PST by Excellence (Buy Progresso, take off the label, write "not halal," mail to Campbell's soup company.)
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To: SandRat

Nice graphic.


71 posted on 12/09/2010 3:46:05 PM PST by Professional Engineer (Conservative States of America has a nice ring to it.)
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To: Professional Engineer
You may purloin it if you like.
72 posted on 12/09/2010 3:48:54 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: LucyT

Thanks for the ping.


73 posted on 12/09/2010 4:06:06 PM PST by GOPJ (Sharpton wants Limbaugh off the air- if you don't hate liberals yet, you're not paying attention.)
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To: Windflier
This is a bigger over-reach than even Obama and the Democrat congress attempted.

Not really. Then Sen. Obama wrote the Global Poverty Act of 2007 (S. 2433) which went along with the UN Millennium Development Goals. Not only would it have let the UN take 1.5% of our GDP, but it would have put our pharmaceuticals and small arms (not to mention much more) under the control of the UN.

74 posted on 12/09/2010 4:12:15 PM PST by Roccus (OUR GOVERNMENT IS COMPRISED OF BUFFOONS, TRAITORS, CRIMINALS AND IDIOTS!!!!!!!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

You can buy alot of ammo for $2400


75 posted on 12/09/2010 4:17:32 PM PST by 4woodenboats
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To: steveab

What? You expect to continue to have the personal freedom to exhale? Especially if you’re a smoker???


76 posted on 12/09/2010 4:40:09 PM PST by SierraWasp (What's worse... shutting down government, or the private sector with uncertainty???)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

btt


77 posted on 12/09/2010 4:45:38 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Reeses
Why aren't you lining up for just one "king," since a dictatorship is the most stable, most predictable and efficient form of government, right?

Most Corporations are benevolent dictatorships that can rule behind closed doors without those messy and tricky political campaigns and elections with moving goal posts, etc...

78 posted on 12/09/2010 4:46:37 PM PST by SierraWasp (What's worse... shutting down government, or the private sector with uncertainty???)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Whenifhow; TenthAmendmentChampion; Clive; scripter; Darnright; WL-law; ...
Thanx Ernest_at_the_Beach !

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

79 posted on 12/09/2010 4:54:17 PM PST by steelyourfaith (ObamaCare Death Panels: a Final Solution to the looming Social Security crisis ?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

NO! But they can have lead.


80 posted on 12/09/2010 4:54:39 PM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: 4woodenboats; Reeses
Yes! Lead, the most precious metal!!!

The federal courts, being praised on this thread, are ruling that 40000 miserable misfit inmates of the CA prision system are to be released back into the public because their health care doesn't meet their rich standards.

So I've invested in lead!!! It takes far too long for Sherrif's deputies to reach my rural residence after a 911 dispatch!!!

81 posted on 12/09/2010 5:00:26 PM PST by SierraWasp (What's worse... shutting down government, or the private sector with uncertainty???)
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To: SierraWasp

Well...Obama has his czars....I think he has a plan.


82 posted on 12/09/2010 6:00:34 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Thanks for posting, Ernest! Serious stuff.


83 posted on 12/09/2010 6:10:39 PM PST by DBrow
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To: apoxonu

I guess they will have to send the UN army to rob us. Rinos better not mess with this in a way that hurts our country. But many in Washington are much more loyal to the UN (the new world order) than to the US constitution and the American people.


84 posted on 12/09/2010 6:39:15 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: SierraWasp

Wait until one world governance wants you to have personal carbon credits.


85 posted on 12/09/2010 7:01:00 PM PST by steveab (When was the last time someone tried to sell you a CO2 induced climate control system for your home?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Is this conference still going on? I get the feeling that they plan to stay in Cancun until next spring.


86 posted on 12/09/2010 7:01:30 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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87 posted on 12/09/2010 7:23:43 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Charlie Rangel doesn't deal in average Americans. That's OK: I don't deal in crooked pols.)
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To: RasterMaster

.280 at 200 yards ping


88 posted on 12/09/2010 8:07:08 PM PST by unkus
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Thanks for your pings Ernest. I haven’t been very good at freeping lately, lol.


89 posted on 12/09/2010 8:13:29 PM PST by potlatch ( Life must be lived forward but can only be seen looking backward. - Soren Kierkegaard)
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To: potlatch

You must have a life outside of here.....LOL!


90 posted on 12/09/2010 8:44:57 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: RasterMaster

You beat me to it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


91 posted on 12/09/2010 10:09:15 PM PST by kennyboy509 ( Ha! I kill me!!!)
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To: Roccus
Then Sen. Obama wrote the Global Poverty Act of 2007 (S. 2433) which went along with the UN Millennium Development Goals. Not only would it have let the UN take 1.5% of our GDP, but it would have put our pharmaceuticals and small arms (not to mention much more) under the control of the UN.

That was an abortive wet dream that went nowhere. I'm talking about literal over-reach by Obama and the Democrat congress. I think this UN proposal goes further than anything they've accomplished, thus far.

92 posted on 12/09/2010 10:33:16 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: B4Ranch
I am having difficulty understanding how a person of your age, I’m guessing over 30, could not know about the New World Order, Agenda 21, One World Government and the other groups who support Global Government.

Take the burr out of your ass and grab a chill pill, friend. Perhaps you misunderstood what I said in my post, or read something into it that I didn't say. I know about the long-range goals of the global elites in the UN.

My point is that this UN plan precisely spells out their plans for world domination, and because they're now openly stating the nuts and bolts of their aims, it's time for the US to finally boot them out of this country.

This document leaves no room for conjecture or speculation any longer. They mean to subjugate the US and every member nation under the boot heel of a world government. Time to go, UN.

93 posted on 12/09/2010 10:43:58 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Eleutheria5
Race you to the door.

I'm wondering if a lot of world leaders aren't thinking of heading toward the door, after reading that document.

94 posted on 12/09/2010 10:49:01 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
They mean to subjugate the US and every member nation under the boot heel of a world government. Time to go, UN.

Absolutely and a long time in the making...and this could not come about without weakening the US as we have been what has slowed them down. But now with other nations advancing the need for our country, apart from our military, is fast loosing ground.

The economic fall was pre-meditated in every way as are the "moves" we see politicians making now. Bo has no interest in this country. His job is to help tear it down further and further without full blown riots in the streets...until it is advantageous that that occur.

Glad you and others here on FR are in tune also with the International push for One world governance...which frankly the economics worldwide will continue to be manipulated so as to make it "appear" there is nothing anyone can do 'except' put it all under one roof......Thus we see nations positioning themselves now more than ever as each leader postures himself for where he will sit and who will weld the power.

95 posted on 12/09/2010 11:00:37 PM PST by caww
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To: Windflier

I apologize. I am glad to see that you do understand what the picture is.

Obama and the Progressive Democrat Congress are a MAJOR PART of this global movement to cripple the US under treaty obligations to the United Nations. Zero gave the UN a billion dollars a couple of months ago. The slimey bastard brought us up todate on our UN dues.


96 posted on 12/09/2010 11:27:05 PM PST by B4Ranch (Do NOT remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: Windflier

Don’t kid yourself. The Obama/UN MDG love affair is alive and well...just playing under the radar.

http://www.undispatch.com/obamas-speech-to-the-un-mdg-summit

UN MDG

http://www1.umn.edu/humanrts/instree/millennium.html


97 posted on 12/10/2010 4:17:05 AM PST by Roccus (OUR GOVERNMENT IS COMPRISED OF BUFFOONS, TRAITORS, CRIMINALS AND IDIOTS!!!!!!!)
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To: HenpeckedCon

two thirds of the majority present...

not necessarily 66 members... interpretation???

the court will decide...

teeman


98 posted on 12/10/2010 6:00:03 AM PST by teeman8r (Act nobly, behave humbly. Not the other way around.)
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To: LucyT; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!; GQuagmire; wintertime; Fred Nerks
Since the Chairman’s note is very long, I shall summarize the main points:

Finance: Western countries will jointly provide $100 billion a year by 2020 to an unnamed new UN Fund. To keep this sum up with GDP growth, the West may commit itself to pay 1.5% of GDP to the UN each year. That is more than twice the 0.7% of GDP that the UN has recommended the West to pay in foreign aid for the past half century. Several hundred of the provisions in the Chairman’s note will impose huge financial costs on the nations of the West.

There is so much more… The world-government Secretariat: In all but name, the UN Convention’s Secretariat will become a world government directly controlling hundreds of global, supranational, regional, national and sub-national bureaucracies. It will receive the vast sum of taxpayers’ money ostensibly paid by the West to the Third World for adaptation to the supposed adverse consequences of imagined (and imaginary) “global warming”.

The first paragraph should be an unbearable stench in every Conservative politician's nose. Second: "Global warming"......Europe is drowning in snow and very freezing cold here on the half of U.S. Same in Copenhagen last year, hmmm!!!

99 posted on 12/10/2010 6:56:07 AM PST by danamco (")
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To: Windflier

from your lips to gods ears


100 posted on 12/10/2010 9:18:14 AM PST by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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