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Debt Panels Target Military Retirement
Military.com ^ | 11.18.10 | Terry Howell

Posted on 11/29/2010 5:14:31 PM PST by Citizen X_Area 51

In last week’s blog on the President’s “Blue Rib­bon” debt panel’s plans to cut the deficit, the sug­ges­tion of over­haul­ing the cur­rent mil­i­tary retire­ment sys­tem seemed to go qui­etly unno­ticed. This week a sec­ond panel has announced their plans to gut the mil­i­tary retire­ment sys­tem.

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1 posted on 11/29/2010 5:14:36 PM PST by Citizen X_Area 51
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To: Citizen X_Area 51

LIBs sure dislike the military, don’t they?


2 posted on 11/29/2010 5:16:28 PM PST by hal ogen (1st Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Citizen X_Area 51
This week a sec­ond panel has announced their plans to gut the mil­i­tary retire­ment sys­tem.

What Nimrods.

3 posted on 11/29/2010 5:16:49 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Citizen X_Area 51
To be clear, the panel’s sug­ges­tion is not to tweak the pro­gram, their plan is to replace it with a new pro­gram that would allow mem­bers to retire after 10 years, but not start draw­ing pay until they reach 60 years old.

Heh heh heh! What a deal!!! Hey America! How's that hope and change thing workin' for ya? The illegal aliens are making out like bandidos! One "Dream" Act! Coming up! (No Dream Act for you gringo!)

4 posted on 11/29/2010 5:18:45 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Sittin' in da back of da bus since January 2009.)
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To: Citizen X_Area 51

I’m not saying that the military couldn’t cut some costs, but I’d like to see the majority of cuts come from items not specifically authorized under article 1, section 8 of the Constitution. Is that too much to ask?


5 posted on 11/29/2010 5:19:20 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: Citizen X_Area 51
S’cuse me??? 28 years of living out of a suitcase, missing 6 years in a row from my marriage, deployments to places National Geographic won't go, sleeping in tents, incoming rockets/mortars, etc. I'm sure there are more than enough vets here that can add to this list... What compensation would be just??? I demand to know!!!
6 posted on 11/29/2010 5:24:16 PM PST by Traveler59 (Truth is a journey, not a destination.)
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To: Citizen X_Area 51

How about they recommend NO RETIReMENT pensions for any Senator or REP? Hmmmmm? or that they get less, the longer they are in Congress????? This is a travesty!


7 posted on 11/29/2010 5:35:24 PM PST by goodnesswins (You deciding how to spend your health care $, thatÂ’s freedom. Govt deciding, thats a death panel)
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To: Citizen X_Area 51

Can’t they keep their grubby, thieving fingers off of anything?


8 posted on 11/29/2010 5:36:07 PM PST by madison10
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To: Citizen X_Area 51

Lets not forget that former SEIU president, Andy Stern is a member of the debt commission.


9 posted on 11/29/2010 5:38:10 PM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: madison10

This is straight out of Bad Government 101. I saw them do this in California for years and years.

When the people bitch about what we’re spending or about taxes going up, cut the firefighters, the cops and the teachers. NEVER cut into the ranks of the legions of bureaucrats or into the WF&A.


10 posted on 11/29/2010 5:40:14 PM PST by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: Citizen X_Area 51

Let’s hope we don’t find out what an all volunteer military thinks about this BS...if the real troops vote with their feet, the Military might have big problems finding anyone but gays who will take that kind of deal...


11 posted on 11/29/2010 5:55:23 PM PST by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts!!)
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To: Bean Counter

Not very smart to even suggest it. However I do like the idea of people getting out after 10 years (at a young age) and thereby avoiding the ‘lifer’ tag. It gives them the option of reconsidering a military career. Plus it gives the military a chance to avoid getting too top-heavy.


12 posted on 11/29/2010 6:31:23 PM PST by DIRTYSECRET
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To: Traveler59

Too late to demand anything...but we know
Welcome Home brother...lets just enjoy that we are here!

(rants are good for us u know!..it’s called venting!!!
Big Picture..........it all works out in the end IMHO!)


13 posted on 11/29/2010 6:33:22 PM PST by M-cubed
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To: Traveler59

Too late to demand anything...but we know
Welcome Home brother...lets just enjoy that we are here!

(rants are good for us u know!..it’s called venting!!!
Big Picture..........it all works out in the end IMHO!)


14 posted on 11/29/2010 6:33:36 PM PST by M-cubed
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To: Citizen X_Area 51

Retirement pay is based upon the “...retirees last month’s pay...”

The last month’s base pay, not the actual pay a service member receives. Basic Allowance for Quarters (BAQ) and Basic Allowance for Subsitance (BAS), plus any other allowance and incentive pays, such as flight pay, are not included in computing retirement. Something many civilians do not realise.


15 posted on 11/29/2010 6:48:50 PM PST by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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To: Traveler59
Thank you for serving this great nation.

I look at what this president has done in two short years and feel sick. Senior citizens are thought of as parasites, the handicapped are thought of people to be disposed of, now veterans are not entitled to what has been promised to them and what they have earned. How sick is this? We can give billions to foreign nations that despise us. Billions of dollars are spent on grants, aid and comfort for illegals. . . anything to buy votes.

It's almost as if this current administration is taunting all of us to rise-up against them. Don't let it rile you, I am a senior and have never felt more helpless, but I'm practicing patience because I know that this nation will prevail. Only two more years to go. We're in this together.

16 posted on 11/29/2010 6:50:12 PM PST by mia
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To: hal ogen

YES!

Medicare and Tricare to merge?
http://www.575magazine.com/military/veterans/JohnTaylor/medicaretricaremerge.html

Tricare Overseas. Retirees will see more out of pocket cost
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2633602/posts


17 posted on 11/29/2010 6:50:51 PM PST by GailA (NO JESUS, NO CHRISTmas!)
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To: hal ogen

Navy Chiefs are in their cross hairs too...attrition...to many E7-9. I suspect it’s the same for the other branches.

They never go after the Top Brass of which we have to many. It’s always the middle ranks.


18 posted on 11/29/2010 6:53:07 PM PST by GailA (NO JESUS, NO CHRISTmas!)
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To: Traveler59

Toll-Free number to the Congressional Switchboard

(866) 338-1015

Medicare and Tricare to merge?

John Taylor, Veterans Advocate

http://www.575magazine.com/military/veterans/JohnTaylor/medicaretricaremerge.html

TRI CARE FOR LIFE This from a google search:

http://economicspolitics.blogspot.com/2009/05/tricare-for-life-is-obama-trying-to.html

This option would help reduce the costs of TFL, as well as costs for Medicare, by introducing minimum out-of pocket requirements for beneficiaries. Under this option, TFL would not cover any of the first $525 of an enrollee’s cost-sharing liabilities for calendar year 2011 and would limit coverage to 50 percent of the next $4,725 in Medicare cost sharing that the beneficiary incurred. (Because all further cost sharing would be covered by TFL, enrollees could not pay more than $2,888 in cost sharing in that year.) http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/99xx/doc9925/12-18-HealthOptions.pdf

http://www.vawatchdog.org/09/hcva09/hcva110609-1.htm

Bill Would Restrict Veterans’ Health Care Options 11/06/09

Buyer and McKeon Offer Amendments to Protect Veterans and TRICARE Beneficiaries

Congress plans to block Tricare fee increases

http://www.armytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w

http://www.navytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w/

By Rick Maze - Staff writer, Oct 7, 2009

Tricare fee increases imposed last week by the Defense Department will be repealed by a provision of the compromise 2010 defense authorization bill unveiled Wednesday by House and Senate negotiators.

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The fee increases were announced on Sept. 30 and took effect on Oct. 1, but the defense bill, HR 2647, includes a provision barring any fee increases until the start of fiscal 2011.

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Retired Army Maj. Gen. Bill Matz, president of the National Association for Uniformed Services, said the announcement of fee increases was shocking considering that the Obama administration promised earlier this year to hold off on any new fee Tricare fee increases until fiscal 2011.

“President Obama and DoD assured NAUS and the entire military family earlier this year that there would rightly be no increases in any Tricare fees” in fiscal 2010, Matz said. “We took them at their word, and I can’t believe that a co-pay increase like this was allowed to go forward,” he added.


19 posted on 11/29/2010 7:09:28 PM PST by GailA (NO JESUS, NO CHRISTmas!)
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To: Traveler59

PENTAGON CONSIDERS HEALTHCARE FEE INCREASE FOR MILITARY... DEVELOPING...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2634150/posts

This is the article Drudge is siting.
Gates Seeking to Contain Miltary Health Cost (TRICARE)
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/29/us/29tricare.html

Links from the FR Thread

newest proposal
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2010/11/military-debt-commission-recommendations-111010w/?sms_ss=facebook&at_xt=4ce34e2da0c73365,0

He’s been after the military from the get go - basta*d

Old one

American Legion commander “angered” after meeting Obama

http://hotair.com/archives/2009/03/16/american-legion-commander-angered-after-meeting-obama/

scroll down for John Stewart video on it

http://themoderatevoice.com/27210/jon-stewart-rips-obama-on-troop-insurance/


20 posted on 11/29/2010 7:13:17 PM PST by GailA (NO JESUS, NO CHRISTmas!)
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