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Safety Net Frays in Spain, as Elsewhere in Europe (reality hitting hard!)
NYT ^ | 6/27/2010 | NYT

Posted on 06/27/2010 8:52:10 PM PDT by mainsail that

MADRID — This was the deal that Gema Díaz, 34, thought she had made: When she took a job with this city as a purchasing agent 12 years ago, she knew her salary would be low.

But the income would be reliable. She could expect steady raises, manageable hours, six weeks of vacation, a good pension and the usual benefits — from free health care to subsidized housing.

Now, as Spain embarks on a range of austerity measures, the careful math of Ms. Díaz’s life is coming undone. Her salary is being cut. Her pension does not look so secure. Even the day care for her second child — due in August — will cost more.

“There can be no more illusions about getting help from the state,” said Ms. Díaz, at home on a recent evening in a charmless, government owned complex on the outskirts of the city. “We talk about it all the time. We talk about it with our friends. We talk about it with our family. The fear is the worst part.”

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: eu; socialism; spain
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"They were able to afford a large flat-screen television and vacations in Russia and China. They retiled the kitchen and bathroom. When their first child, Anders, was born 22 months ago, they used their baby bonus to buy a bigger car.

Now, Ms. Díaz wishes she could take back those purchases"

1 posted on 06/27/2010 8:52:17 PM PDT by mainsail that
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To: mainsail that

Welcome to the real world, Ms. Diaz


2 posted on 06/27/2010 8:55:49 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Nope. Not gonna do it.)
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To: mainsail that

Some humans are just sad.


3 posted on 06/27/2010 8:56:31 PM PDT by wastedyears (The Founders revolted for less.)
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To: mainsail that

I hardly think “we” newbies, should be gloating about over-spending Europeans...

Maybe instead, we should be bringing American jobs and factories, back here to the USA.

Just saying.


4 posted on 06/27/2010 8:57:17 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RR1fDL7x1Sg)
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To: mainsail that

Vacations to Russia and China? I count myself luck to take a few days off around a weekend. I don’t think I have ever taken a real vacation. I wonder what it would be like?


5 posted on 06/27/2010 8:57:21 PM PDT by McGavin999 (I'm sorry, your race card is overdrawn and no further charges can be accepted)
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To: blam

Ping.


6 posted on 06/27/2010 8:57:21 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (*)
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To: mainsail that

She still has a job, unlike many others. They have become so dependent on government that they fail to realize what they have compared to others.


7 posted on 06/27/2010 8:59:27 PM PDT by ABQHispConservative (November, here we come!)
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To: mainsail that
The bare energy-saving light bulbs hanging from the ceiling in her living room will not get fixtures soon. There will be no more evenings out. And the indoor parking space will have to go.

I guess you should have passed on the big screen and vacations.

8 posted on 06/27/2010 8:59:27 PM PDT by ladyvet (WOLVERINES!!!!!)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

“I hardly think “we” newbies, should be gloating about over-spending Europeans...”

No one is gloating, we have the same feeling for the six figure state pensions all over US.


9 posted on 06/27/2010 9:00:05 PM PDT by mainsail that ("A man will fight harder for his interests than for his rights" - Napoleon Bonaparte)
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To: Jet Jaguar
RBS Tells Clients To Prepare For "Monster" Money Printing By The Federal Reserve
10 posted on 06/27/2010 9:02:21 PM PDT by blam
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To: mainsail that
on a recent evening in a charmless, government owned complex

How cozy

11 posted on 06/27/2010 9:05:33 PM PDT by mylife (Opinions: $1 Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: McGavin999

Not just any vacation, but six weeks of vacation. Who gets six weeks of vacation? And I presume it’s paid. No wonder they’re tanking!


12 posted on 06/27/2010 9:05:48 PM PDT by Rennes Templar (Obama: A government to shove the people, deny the people, and ignore the people)
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To: mainsail that
charmless, government owned complex

Aren't they all.

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13 posted on 06/27/2010 9:07:02 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: blam

Yep


14 posted on 06/27/2010 9:07:03 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (*)
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To: mainsail that

Gov’t workers, no matter how low their pay is, produce nothing - so by that measure, they will always be expensive.


15 posted on 06/27/2010 9:08:56 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: McGavin999

I went to Canada with my parents when I was 16. I’ve never been in another foreign country. Stunningly, I own my house without the bank, my cars are paid for with cash, and we’re saving money for the kids to go to college, or have in a trust if a college degree is worthless in 12 years.

But I’ve never seen the Eiffel Tower at midnight! How can I live with myself! ;)


16 posted on 06/27/2010 9:12:53 PM PDT by Carling (Remember November)
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To: Incorrigible
Soviet public housing

Doublewide

I'd prefer the later thanks. And I'll be keepin them guns...

17 posted on 06/27/2010 9:13:26 PM PDT by mylife (Opinions: $1 Halfbaked: 50c)
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Opps the middle pic is American public housing


18 posted on 06/27/2010 9:15:26 PM PDT by mylife (Opinions: $1 Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: mainsail that

I will repeat what I said in an earlier post.

I think this reflexive anti-Union fervor while understandable, is ‘fighting the last war’.

That’s so Vietnam.

China is about to replace us in every way, perhaps even destroy us in the process. And we’re too distracted arguing about Jimmy Hoffa to even notice.

Sun Tsu must be laughing at “Meiguo” (that would be us) right now.

For as long as we’ll be around that is.

Unless we wake the “f” up.

Which incidentally, I believe Chinese actually wish we would! America has been quite highly thought of in China for a very long time. But if we become weak, that will end. Immediately.

That historical interplay (such as the Flying Tigers, and our own role in defeating those who inflicted upon China the “rape of Nanjing”) doesn’t mean they won’t demolish us, if we continue deliberately ignoring the fact we’re becoming weaker by the day, and keep acquiescing at every turn, and most importantly, if we fail to stand up pretty darn soon.

Go rent a Kung-Fu movie. Watch it.

Understand it.

Chinese expect conflict. They don’t, however, respect weakness!

If fact, Chinese despise weakness.

It is the one sure way, to guarantee we will be destroyed by them. It is like the exact opposite, of our own sensibilities.

The old saying (not originally applied to Chinese, but pertinent none the less) is “at your feet, or at your throat”...

It is very much in our national interest, to maintain (at very least) industrial and geopolitical parity with the Peoples Republic of China.

Because if we don’t, this poster guarantees we will not like the result.

Really, are no adults in charge in Washington? Even in those alphabet offices? And are no FReepers even slightly awake?

What in the world?


19 posted on 06/27/2010 9:19:20 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RR1fDL7x1Sg)
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British Tenements

Spanish public housing


20 posted on 06/27/2010 9:21:41 PM PDT by mylife (Opinions: $1 Halfbaked: 50c)
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