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Report: Insubordinate McChrystal Called Back to Washington for White House Meeting
Tuesday, June 22, 2010 | Kristinn

Posted on 06/22/2010 4:07:18 AM PDT by kristinn

NBC News' Savannah Guthrie reports this morning that Gen. Stanley McChrystal is being called to Washington for a meeting at the White House tomorrow in the wake of a Rolling Stone article that has exposed McChrystal and his staff as mockingly disrespectful of their civilian overseers, including their commander-in-chief President Barack Obama.

Guthrie posted at Twitter:

McChrystal has been ordered to the Sit Rom tomorrow to explain his stmts criticizing admin officials to Rolling Stone to POTUS in person 15 minutes ago via UberTwitter

Guthrie added: "McChrystal has been calling around town apologizing to officials."

The Atlantic reported late last night that McChrystal had been called by numerous top officials last night:

Within hours after today's Rolling Stone story broke, McChrystal was called by the White House, the Secretary of Defense, and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. They were not happy.

The Atlantic also notes that McChrystal never completely had the trust of the Obama administration:

Even though McChrystal voted for Obama and told him so during their first meeting, he sensed that a number of senior White House aides didn't really believe that the former commander of the military's special missions unit during the Bush-Cheney years was suddenly on their side. National Security Adviser James Jones, who is a bit of cipher to McChrystal's team, may or may not have been one of these aides. No one in the West Wing bought all that liberal internet chatter about JSOC's alleged crimes -- but no one really didn't buy it, either.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; mcchrystal; obama
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To: tsmith130

What exactly did he say?


51 posted on 06/22/2010 4:36:11 AM PDT by Michigan Bowhunter
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To: listenhillary; kristinn; Jeff Head; SandRat; Allegra

It’s already a mess, and McChrystal, Gates, and even McChrystal’s boss Petraeus share the blame alongside Obama. Afghanistan has completely fallen apart (again).


52 posted on 06/22/2010 4:36:27 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: kristinn

General Douglas MacArthur was called back by Truman and relieved for insubordination, so General Stanley McChrystal is in very good company. The difference is that McChrystal has far better reason to question orders being given to our soldiers. Whether or not you agree with Truman's opposition to giving a general nuclear weapons release authority, at least MacArthur was serving under a real American who loved this country.

53 posted on 06/22/2010 4:38:36 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: kristinn

Yeah, I guess they’re pretty much stuck with him since I don’t know who else in their right mind would want his job.


54 posted on 06/22/2010 4:38:40 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: listenhillary

Obama will form a committee and then wait for the report.


55 posted on 06/22/2010 4:38:53 AM PDT by Jeff Gordon (Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Netz
..” Can’t the President just, “fade away” at this point?

I'll settle for his resignation because of his incompetence and being an all around dumbass.

56 posted on 06/22/2010 4:39:28 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: kristinn
Will he fall on his sword? It would seem that protocol would demand it.

History shows another president that hailed from Illinois. He too went through several generals during a war.

57 posted on 06/22/2010 4:39:59 AM PDT by csvset
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To: kristinn

The only thing that will save the General is the political ramification if Obama fires him. If the regime sees too much downside then he’ll probably stay.


58 posted on 06/22/2010 4:40:00 AM PDT by 2nd Bn, 11th Mar
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To: kristinn

Is is not luck, it is a very indecisive CnC.


59 posted on 06/22/2010 4:40:14 AM PDT by Jeff Gordon (Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Netz

NEVER!

I suggest he "GO DOWN FIGHTING!"
and put Obama through the fiery furnace of "the truth," as the General see it.

60 posted on 06/22/2010 4:40:50 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die.)
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To: Freddd

President Commodus: “How dare you show your back to me!”


61 posted on 06/22/2010 4:41:23 AM PDT by Liberty Ship ("Lord, make me fast and accurate.")
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To: Michigan Bowhunter
What exactly did he say?

Not sure I understand what you're asking. Do you mean, what did he say in the article?

62 posted on 06/22/2010 4:42:08 AM PDT by tsmith130
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
If Secretary Gates had an ounce of backbone,

He doesn't; he is malleable as a wet noodle statist and the reason Obama kept him as SecDef.

63 posted on 06/22/2010 4:42:54 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: GreenLanternCorps
He cannot openly mock a President while still on active duty, period.

This is a special case. What we have here is a PINO (President In Name Only).

64 posted on 06/22/2010 4:43:13 AM PDT by Jeff Gordon (Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: kristinn
Obama is hesitating to fire McChrystal

Obama hesitates on everything.

65 posted on 06/22/2010 4:44:20 AM PDT by Jeff Gordon (Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: cajungirl

Both Quantico and Centcom have been trying to hack the Post & Email news website for some time now. That’s how apolitical the military leadership is. They know who their enemy is, and it’s not necessarily Al Qaeda.

I’m really, really worried for our military if they DON’T stand up against Obama, because he may be literally making them into his banana-republic storm-troopers.


66 posted on 06/22/2010 4:44:27 AM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: Carley

Ditto. As a former military officer, we know that we must keep our opinions to ourselves and carry out the orders in a professional manner and to the best of our abilities. Otherwise be prepare to resign after making public dissenting remarks. That is the price for keeping our military out of politics, otherwise you end up with military coups and clashes that happened in Europe, Asia, Africa and South/Latin America. Obama should be voted out, and November is our chance to do it at the ballot box.


67 posted on 06/22/2010 4:45:36 AM PDT by Fee (Peace, prosperity, jobs and common sense)
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To: kristinn
NBC’s chief Pentagon reporter, Jim Mik(however you spell it) says the Pentagon is not inclined to fire McChrystal.

The Pentagon may not be the decision maker in this.

68 posted on 06/22/2010 4:46:42 AM PDT by Roccus (......and then there were none.)
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To: kristinn
From HotAir:

Update: Like I said — major fallout. Marc Ambinder relays the administration’s reaction.

What in the heck was Gen. Stanley McChrystal thinking? I mean, I know what he was thinking: he was tired of being the victim of what he believes is a concerted effort on behalf of Ambassador to Afghanistan Karl Eikenberry and others to undermine everything he was given 18 months to do. He was tired of being perceived in the press as a neoconservative killer, Dick Cheney’s hired assassin, or disloyal to President Obama and his staff. He was angry at being blamed for leaking the draft of his report to the President to Bob Woodward. (He did NOT leak the document). He was miffed that a large number of mid-ranking soldiers and battalion commanders and enlisted guys didn’t support his strategy…

I don’t think McChrystal intended to do this. Nevertheless, he did. And as for whether there was some miscommunication about attribution, or whether McChrystal thought no one would really notice, or whether he thought a tick-tock like this would help his cause … those questions are unanswerable right now…

Within hours after today’s Rolling Stone story broke, McChrystal was called by the White House, the Secretary of Defense, and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. They were not happy.

69 posted on 06/22/2010 4:47:24 AM PDT by tsmith130
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To: kristinn
Rut Roh! I expect a retirement, to spend more time with his family, coming.

LOL! He called them “The Wimps in the Whitehouse”! Boy is he in trouble with the thin skinned, man child impostor POTUS.

70 posted on 06/22/2010 4:49:08 AM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (Professional Politicians are a Threat to the Republic! Remove them on 11-3-10!)
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To: kristinn
And from Wired.com/dangerroom:

snip~

Apparently, that piece didn’t turn out how McChrystal and his guys envisioned it would. McChrystal is apologizing for the article before it’s even come out. He says in a statement: “I extend my sincerest apology for this profile. It was a mistake reflecting poor judgment and should never have happened. Throughout my career, I have lived by the principles of personal honor and professional integrity. What is reflected in this article falls far short of that standard. I have enormous respect and admiration for President Obama and his national security team, and for the civilian leaders and troops fighting this war and I remain committed to ensuring its successful outcome.”

(http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/06/mcchrystal-apologies-for-incendiary-article/#ixzz0ra7SGmUM)

71 posted on 06/22/2010 4:49:40 AM PDT by tsmith130
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To: Netz
Do you remember THIS? "The excrement of propaganda" By Geoff Metcalf
72 posted on 06/22/2010 4:49:55 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die.)
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To: kristinn

He will resign. There may be others right behind him.


73 posted on 06/22/2010 4:51:10 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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To: GreenLanternCorps
If McChrystal disagrees with the President, he needs to resign his commission and then say so. He cannot openly mock a President while still on active duty, period.

That the President in question is an incompetent boob with delusions of godhood is irrelevant.

That the President in question is going to seriously compromise the war effort is irrelevant.

Criticism of the President and his policies must come from outside the military, never within.

Precisely and absolutely correct, I'm surprised to read so many here who either don't know this or don't think it matters as much as it does. One may hold whatever opinion he cares to while in the military, however, he may not express it this way -- you wanna spout off, you take your uniform off, as you say, you resign your commission first.

I don't read RS, and from the link above, I'm not getting specific quote from McChrystal, I'm not clear on exactly what he said. But from the sound of it, hearsay though it may be, it does seem to be insubordinate. I wasn't around back when, but from what my mother has told me, MacArthur may well have been correct in his military assessment but he was not correct in his public comments, Truman did what was right and proper in the circumstance, regardless how the people of the country felt.

There can be no exceptions to this rule.

74 posted on 06/22/2010 4:51:58 AM PDT by MozarkDawg
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To: kristinn

Retirement?


75 posted on 06/22/2010 4:52:01 AM PDT by Marty62 (marty60)
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To: kristinn

Retirement?


76 posted on 06/22/2010 4:52:26 AM PDT by Marty62 (marty60)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

But probably not the Ambassador to Afghanistan, Eikenberry. He seems to be mucking things up big time....which is reason for promotion in this administration.


77 posted on 06/22/2010 4:52:45 AM PDT by tsmith130
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To: GreenLanternCorps

This was true with all powerful and popular Gen Douglas McArthur vs pipsqueek Truman. Maybe Obama is pulling for a repeat of that, beat down a General to look tough.


78 posted on 06/22/2010 4:52:49 AM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: 2nd Bn, 11th Mar
The only thing that will save the General is the political ramification if Obama fires him.

Ringy dingy. It took to post 58 for it to be mentioned of the political fallout that will hit the POS in the White House if he fires McChrystal for telling about Obama's incompetence. Does the thin skin Kenyan want to go there?

79 posted on 06/22/2010 4:54:31 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: caver

Concur with you 100%.”They” are also either a mad person or a simple wimp commie fool. Those who voted for klintoon in 92 are gulity as well.
Molon Labe,
NSNR


80 posted on 06/22/2010 4:54:39 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: Carley

“Frankly, as much as I hate O, these comments from McChrystal are unacceptable. Always have been, and hopefully, always will be.”

Yup. And if obama orders our troops to round up Christians and conservatives and send them to camps, any dissent likewise would be “unacceptable” and “always will be.” Right? Because, of course, our military’s highest oath is to the person holding the office of President. Not to some old piece of paper writtent by a bunch of dead white guys.


81 posted on 06/22/2010 4:55:09 AM PDT by piytar (Obama keeps going to golf courses instead of the Gulf. Maybe he's too stupid to know the difference?)
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To: kristinn

I recommend we cut General McChrystal some slack. We haven’t heard from him; only people who could arguably be called his enemies. I think it’s unlikely he said anything unfortunate during an interview with The Rolling Stone or anybody else. He also most likely had the interview tapped and can produce that tape.


82 posted on 06/22/2010 4:55:55 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: kristinn

In light of his subsequent, groveling apologies, there is no way to avoid wondering whether McChrystal was drunk when he gave the Rolling Stone interview. If he wasn’t drunk, then he appears not to know the difference between a General giving an interview to a magazine and a PFC bitching at a local bar.

McChrystal should have resigned and said his piece or shut up and focused on the war.

Does anyone give a damn about the young men who are dying and being mutilated for this nation? There is no evidence that Obama or any of his minions give a damn, and now it is hard to believe McChrystal gives a damn.

Does anyone give a damn about defeating radical Islam?

We appear to be up s____ creek without a boat or paddle.


83 posted on 06/22/2010 4:57:45 AM PDT by olrtex
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To: Roccus
This is odd. Someone in the military is telling the press it was McChrystal's decision to go to Washington.

From The Washington Post:

Lt. Col. Joseph Breasseale, a U.S. military spokesman, said McChrystal called Biden and other senior administration officials Tuesday morning in reference to the article. "After these discussions, he decided to travel to the U.S. for a meeting," the spokesman said in an e-mail.

84 posted on 06/22/2010 4:58:02 AM PDT by kristinn (I am a footnote in Sean Hannity's new book, Conservative Victory. Pgs 239, 240)
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To: tsmith130
"to undermine everything he was given 18 months to do has seen soldiers under his command DIE to do."

Of course, that's not really important. What's important (according to some Freepers up thread) is that he doesn't appear to be insubordinate. Screw those troops and screw the Constitution. He must OBEY!

85 posted on 06/22/2010 4:58:48 AM PDT by piytar (Obama keeps going to golf courses instead of the Gulf. Maybe he's too stupid to know the difference?)
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To: kristinn

It’s obvious we need a Czar over the military, a committee, a commission, a study by leading academic experts, a round-table, a blue-ribbon panel, and a speech.


86 posted on 06/22/2010 4:58:55 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: kristinn

Given the credibility of the media, who knows what reports to believe?


87 posted on 06/22/2010 4:59:42 AM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: All

First, I thought Academy grads were smarter than this. Anyone naive enough to trust a media outlet needs to be reassessed, IMO. Even giving them a glimpse of his real feelings was a bad move. He should be relieved of command or allowed to retire soon.

We are a military family and wife and I don’t feel comfortable allowing anyone to hear anything other than “We have the utmost respect for the office of the President”.


88 posted on 06/22/2010 5:00:10 AM PDT by newnhdad (The longest of journeys begins with one step.)
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To: cajungirl

The Generals still have a responsibility to speak up when things are wrong, and to take care of their troops. You always have a right to voice your concerns, I see no problem in this. Our troops are being fed into the meat grinder known as the politically correct war of Ashtrashistan because of this administration. It’s about time someone stands up and does something.


89 posted on 06/22/2010 5:01:34 AM PDT by Stayfrosty
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To: newnhdad

I understand your position and generally agree with you.

Do you have any problem with retired Gen. Paul Vallely saying we need to pressure Obama to resign before we lose all our allies?


90 posted on 06/22/2010 5:02:49 AM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: kristinn

I was all for McCrystall until I found out he voted for Obama.

He is tainted goods in my eyes.


91 posted on 06/22/2010 5:04:16 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: piytar

“writtent” = “written” PIMF


92 posted on 06/22/2010 5:04:26 AM PDT by piytar (Obama keeps going to golf courses instead of the Gulf. Maybe he's too stupid to know the difference?)
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To: Wyatt's Torch

This is the reason the country is dead meat. People are not allowed to speak truth to power.

Americans, cower in fear and prepare to turn your childrens futures over to Obama, a Kenyan and a communist.

Our kids will despise us in the future.


93 posted on 06/22/2010 5:04:28 AM PDT by dforest
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To: olrtex
Does anyone give a damn about the young men who are dying and being mutilated for this nation? There is no evidence that Obama or any of his minions give a damn, and now it is hard to believe McChrystal gives a damn.

Whose rules of engagement are being followed in Afghanistan? That would be Obama's. McChrystal could tell Obama to change the damn thing and support a winnable stategy, or he would resign and tell the whole damn world what is going on. Put Obama in a box.

94 posted on 06/22/2010 5:06:22 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: kristinn

Some would consider it lucky to get fired from Obama and get out of that hell hole he’s mismanaging.


95 posted on 06/22/2010 5:08:28 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: indylindy
"Our kids will despise us in the future."

Take the children and yourself
and hide out in the cellar.
By now the fighting will be close at hand.
Don't believe the church and state
And everything they tell you;
Believe in me, I'm with the High Command.

Can you hear me,
can you hear me running?
Can you hear me running,
can you hear me calling you?
Can you hear me,
can you hear me running?
Can you hear me running,
can you hear me calling you?

There's a gun and ammunition
just inside the doorway;
Use it only in emergency.
Better you should pray to God,
The Father and the Spirit,
Will guide you and protect from up here.

Can you hear me,
can you hear me running?
Can you hear me running,
can you hear me calling you?
Can you hear me,
can you hear me running?
Can you hear me running,
can you hear me calling you?

Swear allegiance to the flag,
Whatever flag they offer;
Never hint at what you really feel.
Teach the children quietly,
For someday sons and daughters
Will rise up and fight while we stood still.

Can you hear me,
can you hear me running?
Can you hear me running,
can you hear me calling you?
Can you hear me,
can you hear me running?
Can you hear me running,
can you hear me calling you?

Silent Running
(Mike and the Mechanics)

96 posted on 06/22/2010 5:09:00 AM PDT by BlueLancer (I'm getting a fine tootsy-frootsying right here...)
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To: kristinn

If true, this may be a showdown....and if it is, then the number one question is, “What do the Colonels think?”


97 posted on 06/22/2010 5:09:21 AM PDT by Roccus (......and then there were none.)
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To: Gen.Blather
CNN reports McChrystal has fired a press aide over the article:

[Updated 7:50 a.m.] Gen. Stanley McChrystal has fired a press aide because of a Rolling Stone article in which McChrystal was portrayed as critical of Obama administration officials, two defense officials tell CNN.

98 posted on 06/22/2010 5:09:55 AM PDT by kristinn (I am a footnote in Sean Hannity's new book, Conservative Victory. Pgs 239, 240)
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To: kristinn

The press should be invited to attend the meeting


99 posted on 06/22/2010 5:10:11 AM PDT by DollyCali (Don't tell God how big your storm is...Tell the storm how big your God is!)
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To: Roccus

Of course a real military man won’t respect obama and there is nothing more worthless than a liberal flag officer.


100 posted on 06/22/2010 5:10:30 AM PDT by gthog61
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