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French fishing boat rescues stranded Calif. teen (French captain fell into ocean during rescue)
Associated Press ^ | 6/12/10 | THOMAS WATKINS

Posted on 06/12/2010 7:04:01 AM PDT by jimbo123

A French fishing vessel rescued a California teenager Saturday from her crippled sailboat in the turbulent southern Indian Ocean, bringing relief to her family but ending her around-the-world sailing effort.

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KEYWORDS: abbysunderland; indianocean; rescue; sailing
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To: DJ MacWoW

I’m not saying people don’t have a right to an opinion, I’m saying they don’t have a right to to state their subjective opinions as absolute bedrock truth. The truth of the matter is; “this was an ego trip” is a subjective opinion NOT absolute bedrock truth.


241 posted on 06/12/2010 12:06:12 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: DJ MacWoW

The boat recovery effort has more to do with the fact it’s not paid for.


242 posted on 06/12/2010 12:06:18 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: DJ MacWoW

I let stand my comment... and btw... it was not about insults to me. The comments on these threads (collectively) about Abby and her family are unworthy of FR.


243 posted on 06/12/2010 12:06:29 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: dynoman

Trying to beat her brother isn’t ego? Sibling rivalry isn’t ego?


244 posted on 06/12/2010 12:08:32 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: jimbo123
The boat recovery effort has more to do with the fact it’s not paid for.

Maybe for the parents but not the kid. This is a 16 year old girl with all the dreamy, romantic emotions that go with that age.

245 posted on 06/12/2010 12:09:59 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: aruanan
No abby is poor kid that is being used and abused by her parents, for their personal gain, we end child sweat shops and slavery years ago. Trying to obtain that five minutes of fame is all the same.
246 posted on 06/12/2010 12:11:52 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: antceecee
I let stand my comment... and btw... it was not about insults to me.

Ah, so you insult people that have a different opinion than you do.

The comments on these threads (collectively) about Abby and her family are unworthy of FR.

Now you run FR?

And not all the comments (collectively) are mine.

247 posted on 06/12/2010 12:12:13 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
She was attempting to achieve something her bother also achieved. Don’t choose to force unique “in the arena” achievement into a petty “sibling rivalry” box just to make a subjective argument. That’s the falacy of too few alternatives.
248 posted on 06/12/2010 12:14:08 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: dynoman
Don’t choose to force unique “in the arena” achievement into a petty “sibling rivalry” box just to make a subjective argument

Her MOTHER called it sibling rivalry. It never occurred to me. I thought she just wanted to sail s she could say "I DID IT". That in itself is an ego trip as it serves no purpose other than bragging.

249 posted on 06/12/2010 12:17:03 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: jimbo123

“The mother and father have 5 other kids...”

She’s due to deliver her eighth this month.


250 posted on 06/12/2010 12:19:21 PM PDT by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real they have some pretty good ideas.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

The mother is giving birth to her eighth child this month.

I see their house on google maps...if their house is an indication of income/wealth, etc., no way do they have the funds. On Abby’s website, she asks for more donations and more sponsors.

Soooo I have a feeling that this child and her parents are not working for what she has been given. It’s all about asking for donations and having sponsors fund everything.


251 posted on 06/12/2010 12:23:34 PM PDT by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real they have some pretty good ideas.)
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To: rigelkentaurus
I’m not sure I’m understanding what the problem is? People climb mountains, explore, fly planes, sail boats around the world, become test flights, go into space. Chances are taken - individuals who have freedom can make these choices - slaves cannot. A generation ago, 16 years old was old enough to lie about your age and join the military - to take your chances to fight for your country. I have not heard this girl complain about anything - she is chasing her dream, willing to pay the price. Isn’t that what individual freedom is all about? Don’t understand the backlash on Free Republic?

I agree. A lot of the comments on here disgust me.

It's amazing how many snide, jealous opininions there are here. Adventurous spririts used to define what made our country great, but it appears that bitterness and pettiness now rule the day.

Now you see all of these people wanting the government to step in, wanting to severely restrict the liberties of this family to make its own decisions and deriding this girl and her family by coming up with their own projected reasons for this attempt to sail around the world.

So many people have slipped into the nanny-state stance and don't even realize it.

252 posted on 06/12/2010 12:24:40 PM PDT by Allegra (Pablo is very wily.)
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To: antceecee

“Those who condemn this family for raising talented self reliant young adults are the true schmucks.”

What does self reliant mean? I always thought it meant working for what you have.


253 posted on 06/12/2010 12:28:35 PM PDT by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real they have some pretty good ideas.)
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To: jimbo123

LOL!! You are toooo cruel...but so funny.

Wouldn’t it be a hoot if the sponsors also sponsored other children being used? We used to have the same problems with child actors...but no body said how self reliant and All American Judy Garland’s Mom was or that Mommie Dearest.


254 posted on 06/12/2010 12:30:12 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Ok, joke's over....Bring back Bush !)
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To: antceecee
The comments on these threads (collectively) about Abby and her family are unworthy of FR.

You are correct. We have a whole nation of adults and children who collectively have zero accomplishments worth noting. We can't even send a manned mission to the moon, even though we accomplished the same feat forty years ago. Did we lose the technology that got us there? No, our technology has advanced tremendously in the past forty years. We lost the spirit.

Our people collectively cower in fear as a nanny state government, led by a marxist, communist, muslim, anti-American, gay prostitute, sets about dictating every minor decision of every person's every waking moment.

These idiot critics of Abby on FR, and everywhere else, are totally clueless about her accomplishments thus far on just this voyage, any single leg of which puts her above 99.999% of all American teenagers.

Just one item on the list, from a quick look at her Route Information is sufficient to secure her the utmost respect of seafaring people anywhere in the world, from the snottiest yacht club yuppies, to the roughest, most violent merchant sailor bars in the nastiest seaports imaginable.

Abby Sunderland sailed around The Horn.

To all the snotty critics, what did your kid do in the past six months to match this, just this one thing?

255 posted on 06/12/2010 12:33:11 PM PDT by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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To: jimbo123

WHAT????

Ok, all you enablers out there, pony up the coins...that way she can do this stunt or worse ALL OVER AGAIN.

I would say,,,FIRST the collecting funds should go to pay back the rescue and the sponsors!!


256 posted on 06/12/2010 12:34:17 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Ok, joke's over....Bring back Bush !)
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To: DJ MacWoW
"That in itself is an ego trip as it serves no purpose other than bragging."

Another example of the falacy of too few alternatives - the resulting opinion is a logical short circuit.

She had to want to do it herself for more reasons than mere sibling rivalry or bragging rights. Come on, this was a trip around the world, alone, in a sailboat. If it weren't for fate she'd have made it too. In the light of that reality you and I butt sitting like a couple girly men at our computer screens arguing about a 16 yr old girl who has so much more ambition than we do it flat out PWN3D us is really, really pathetic. I'm so ashamed I'm going to log off and go DO something. Gotta fix the head gasket on the air compressor so it's ready for painting the magnesium Corvette wheels for our LT1/six speed WS6 Firebird. Not a trip around the world I know but.... nice talking! Now smile!

257 posted on 06/12/2010 12:36:33 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: meadsjn

“To all the snotty critics, what did your kid do in the past six months to match this, just this one thing?”

What about the critics themselves, what have they done in the last six months or even their whole life to match that? I know I haven’t done ANYTHING like that - in my whole life! I’m PWN3D by a 16 yr old girl!! Man for LAME!!!! I said I was going to log off and go do something but I can’t even to that!


258 posted on 06/12/2010 12:42:44 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: jimbo123

Where is your link for the “captain falling into the sea.”

???


259 posted on 06/12/2010 12:46:50 PM PDT by La Enchiladita
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To: dynoman
One more before I slink away with my tail between my legs;

"It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself for a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
Theodore Roosevelt "Citizenship in a Republic," Speech at the Sorbonne, Paris, April 23, 1910



I love the "doer of deeds" spirit this girl has. It should inspire all of us.

260 posted on 06/12/2010 12:47:00 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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