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Natalee Holloway Extended Discussion Thread #21
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Posted on 06/02/2010 1:42:42 PM PDT by RGVTx

This is a consolidation of the current threads on FR. It is intended to make discussion and updates easier.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2526123/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2526200/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2526225/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2526245/posts


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KEYWORDS: aruba; bethtwitty; captured; confession; daveholloway; extortion; extortionfrombeth; floresmurder; gitchegummee; greta; gretavansusteren; gretched; holloway; international; interpol; joran; joranconfesses; joranconfession; joranextortsbeth; joranvandersloot; jvds; jvdsconfesses; jvdsconfession; manhunt; nancygrace; natalee; nataleeholloway; peru; shango; shangocodes; shangorhymes; shangosimian; stephany; stephanyflores; vandersloot; vanderslootconfessed; vanderslootconfesses
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To: Dante3

Hi & (((((((((hugs)))))))

Yes Nicole & Ron - at the hands of another sociopath.


601 posted on 06/05/2010 2:02:31 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - Man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: kcvl; OldDeckHand; LucyT
I just read something at WS that rang a bell --- that Joran had once beaten his dog to death.

Is this a FACT?

Was that why a child psychologist was brought in?

If Aruban LEOs knew that JVDS was a psychopath, with an identifying characteristic of maltreating animals in childhood, WHY did they help him evade incarceration?????

Just BIZARRE.

WS poster mentions Joran's childhood dog whom he beat to death.

602 posted on 06/05/2010 2:59:36 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: OldDeckHand; LucyT
Here's further clarification from Old Deck Hand:

"And, it's the DOJ, specifically the DOJ's Criminal Division's Office of International Affairs, that effects extradition from foreign countries, not the FBI, per se. This is the division that prepares the paperwork, submits the formal request and request provisional arrest for the suspect, if warranted.

Again, this is why Holder's fingerprints are all over this. While there are a lot of career DOJ lawyers in these offices, it's a political appointee that runs them. This is Obama's problem, all the way.:

603 posted on 06/05/2010 3:14:16 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: hennie pennie

CCTV caught the couple entering his hotel room together.

Joran later reappears around 8:40 am, leaving his room wearing a different shirt without Stephany.

More Here

604 posted on 06/05/2010 3:17:53 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl

Wow.


605 posted on 06/05/2010 3:19:44 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Shermy; sodpoodle
Van Der Sloot Faces 'Extremely Rude Awakening' ---- http://wireless.go.com/wireless/abcnews/section/International/10836121_3

ABCNews -- Joran van der Sloot, the lone suspect in the disappearance of Alabama teen Natalee Holloway in Aruba, faces an "extremely rude awakening" in Peru, where he has just been jailed as a suspect in the murder of a young Peruvian woman, a top international lawyer said today.

"The conditions of incarceration at best will be overcrowded and uncomfortable, and more likely can be described as deplorable and intolerable," said Philadelphia-based defense attorney Theodore Simon, whose clients have included Ira Einhorn, who was extyradited from France to face murder charges; Alain Robert, the "French Spiderman" known for climbing skyscrapers; fight promoter Don King and Robert Durst, the heir to the New York real estate fortune."

The most basic...

606 posted on 06/05/2010 3:21:16 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: kcvl; onyx
I've been reading about those surveillance tapes at WS, and all the posters have bemoaned that they soooo wish they could reach into the video and back into time, to grab Stephany OUT OF THERE.

It is such SAD footage, just heartbreaking...

Thank you for posting the stills here.

607 posted on 06/05/2010 3:23:47 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: mass55th

Don’t miss these images which freeper kcvl just posted! Seriously heartbreaking...


608 posted on 06/05/2010 3:27:10 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: hennie pennie

When in Rome..........Oh the ironry;)

Stupid Sloot - he is no longer a home-boy - that’s gotta hurt.


609 posted on 06/05/2010 3:54:28 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - Man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: RGVTx
LOL, posters at ScaredMonkeys are trying to identify the identity of some of the lurkers, specifically people whose ISPs lead back the Ministry of Justice in Aruba, or back to Thailand.

some current discussion of ISPs ---- http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8038.875;wap2

I'd love to know what the creepy Aruban LEOs are thinking of themselves about now.....

610 posted on 06/05/2010 4:00:03 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: sodpoodle; Shermy; onyx
I am SO stupid, SO ignorant that words almost fail me....

It would have taken me months to Recognize.The.Obvious....

AND what is obvious??

That EVERYONE implicated in the murder and the coverup of the murder of Natalee Holloway is horrified and quaking in their shoes.

The OBVIOUS never occurred to me until I real this brilliant post over at SM:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8038.885;wap2

Blonde:
YOU WATCH THAT VIDEO KALPOES - AND TAKE NOTES - YOU ALL KIDNAPPED NATALEE HOLLOWAY WITH JORAN VAN DER SLOOT HE WLL IMPLICATE YOU ( TALK)
YOU WILL BE NEXT.

I am soooooo dumb.... of course Joran is about to spill the beans on virtually EVERYONE!!!!!!

611 posted on 06/05/2010 4:13:22 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: hennie pennie

p.s. PRAISE HEAVENS!!!!!


612 posted on 06/05/2010 4:15:19 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: hennie pennie

Agreed. Add me to your ping list?


613 posted on 06/05/2010 4:17:41 PM PDT by amom (Proud Blue Star Mom of a US Army tanker)
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To: hennie pennie

I really think the cover-up was between Juron and his father.

The Aruban authorities can quake in their shoes, but the other two boys weren’t in on the coverup or the murder, IMO.

Time will tell....

I have no idea what Anita knows or when or what she was told.


614 posted on 06/05/2010 4:18:27 PM PDT by onyx (Sarah/Michele 2012)
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To: kcvl; trisham
Video from hotel
615 posted on 06/05/2010 4:18:44 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: hennie pennie

I think you’ve got it HP.

JVDS has nothing to lose - he can negotiate for a lesser sentence only if he chucks the mighty and the mice under the bus.

That could include his godfather (if he’s still alive) and the Casino owner of Charlie’s in Aruba and any traffickers, drug dealers etc., etc.,

I do hope they check his passport and for other missing young women wherever he has traveled.


616 posted on 06/05/2010 4:18:58 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - Man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: amom; LucyT; RGVTx
I don't have a ping list, but LucyT and rgvtx are the pinglist'rs for important updates to this thread.

In the first pages of this messagethread, I went back to old threads about NH and pinged participants, but I didn't keep any record -- AND I probably pinged some userids several times and others I totally missed.

617 posted on 06/05/2010 4:23:24 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: onyx
Yeah, I agree with you about the Indian brothers from Suriname, who knows if those youngsters were ever involved --- BUT...... just think of all the potential adults who owned Joran's dad FAVORS.

I still wonder HOW Joran's parents were able to give him a $50,000 line of credit at the local casino --- WHERE were they getting that kind of money and WHY would they spend it on their son thusly??

I presume that there are human traffickers and drug kingpins involved, and who knows who-all in the Department of Justice in Aruba??? YOU may be correct that Joran & his dad Paulus were the murderers; but in the aftermath there was LOTS of help & assistance in covering things up and misleading investigators..... IMO, anyway... LOL

618 posted on 06/05/2010 4:28:48 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: kcvl; amom; hennie pennie; RGVTx; Canadian Outrage; Velveeta; Rushmore Rocks; toldyou; truthluva; ..
~Ping~

. . . . Photos at # 604.

619 posted on 06/05/2010 4:32:24 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: Shermy

Thanks. It appears that everyone in the entire world is watching now. I’ll check back with it later.


620 posted on 06/05/2010 4:36:02 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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