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Front page online--heard this mentioned while watching Rules meeting live on Fox streaming video--does this mean 'demonpass' is dead?? Discussion in meeting seems to imply WAPO story is true?
1 posted on 03/20/2010 11:33:57 AM PDT by pillut48
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Could mean they think they have the votes...


2 posted on 03/20/2010 11:34:38 AM PDT by skeeter
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Maybe they have enough votes to pass the Senate bill outright.


3 posted on 03/20/2010 11:34:45 AM PDT by Parley Baer
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Today I am still, just a bill!

4 posted on 03/20/2010 11:35:18 AM PDT by BurbankKarl
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They must have the votes and probably had them all along.


5 posted on 03/20/2010 11:35:19 AM PDT by Shire
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tweet @wonkroom

Democrats in committee confirming they are abandoning deem and pass. Will hold separate votes on reconciliation & senate bill.


8 posted on 03/20/2010 11:36:56 AM PDT by VRWCTexan (Obama-scare is the "real" Cash for Clunker Program!)
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Could also be a LIE. Waxman himself said they will be voting for the senate bill - it was a tricky lie. I would not listen to the Dems or the WaPo. They are playing with the meaning of words.


13 posted on 03/20/2010 11:39:19 AM PDT by PghBaldy (Like the Ft Hood Killer, James Earl Ray was just stressed when he killed MLK Jr.)
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So....House will vote on the EXACT Senate bill already passed?


14 posted on 03/20/2010 11:39:26 AM PDT by Kimberly GG ("Path to Citizenship" Amnesty candidates will NOT get my vote!)
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I don’t see how they have the votes to pass the senate bill. Everyone in the house knows that the senate is never going to pass the reconciliation bill.

They are in serious disarray.


15 posted on 03/20/2010 11:39:47 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (The worst is behind us. Unfortunately it is really well endowed.)
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The whole fuss over deem and pass was silly to begin with. Why do we care HOW they pass it. It would of only mattered if so much attention hadn't been on the vote, but in this particular case everyone would of known that a vote for deem and pass was equal to a vote for government healthcare.
16 posted on 03/20/2010 11:39:57 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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Good. I would prefer that our money and effort be focused on defeating (in Court challenges) the legislation on its substance, and not on the process in which it may be passed.

Unfortunately, this probably also means that they're confident in their whip count.

18 posted on 03/20/2010 11:40:44 AM PDT by OldDeckHand
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It means that the undecideds now see that there is no such thing as "Deem and Pass". It was a leadership scam.

Either you are voting for the Senate bill or you aren't.

19 posted on 03/20/2010 11:40:45 AM PDT by FreeReign
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Like I just posted to Ernest at the beach:::

It’s like being a terminally ill man strapped to his gurney close to death, laying there watching his children battle each other over his earthly goods while ignoring him as he takes his last dying breaths…

An intolerable state of affairs indeed.

26 posted on 03/20/2010 11:42:41 AM PDT by JDoutrider (Send G. Soros home! Hell isn't half full!)
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Kinda makes me wish we hadn’t screamed quite so loudly - if they pass it on an up-or-down vote it’ll become law without that hook for a possible court challenge.


27 posted on 03/20/2010 11:43:23 AM PDT by bigbob
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Don’t you love that not one of these thugs has a thought of what the American people want. We seem to have never crossed their minds.


30 posted on 03/20/2010 11:44:56 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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However, if there was anytime in the last 50 years that Demos would lie 24/7 this is it.

Keep a watch on them and keep calling.


36 posted on 03/20/2010 11:46:21 AM PDT by texmexis best
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The December Senate bill is very stinky and corrupt and will become law if they have the votes. The companion reconciliation bill is just a fantasy, and political theater that the Senate Dims will be reluctant to invest much effort in passing. The Dims desperately want the public to have health care amnesia so they can move on to other disastrous distractions such as amnesty.
At least with the Senate bill, the Dims will have a big “kick me” sign plastered on their butts.


42 posted on 03/20/2010 11:48:55 AM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est)
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So — could the RATS do this:

1. House Pass the Senate bill
2. House Pass their reconciliation bill
3. The Senate bill goes to Obama, who sits on it while,
4. Senate debates and ultimately passes the House reconciliation bill, which then
5. Goes to Obama who then signs both, in essence simultaneously.

Using Obama to buffer the first bill would give assurance to the weak-kneed Dems that the Senate bill won’t become law without their changes.


48 posted on 03/20/2010 11:52:05 AM PDT by bigbob
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No, the Washington Examiner piece is pretty clear; Waxman wants no part of “deem and pass.” I think a lot of Dems are getting cold feet over the tactic and will scramble to find the votes in the next 24hrs.

Also remember, in the Senate Orin Hatch warned Dems that Republicans in the Senate would use two different rules that would send the bill to the House again and require a straight up or down vote.

Yancy


59 posted on 03/20/2010 11:58:24 AM PDT by gallandro
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.. but they’ll pass it with Satan’s approval.


60 posted on 03/20/2010 11:58:25 AM PDT by divine_moment_of_facts (Give me Liberty.. or I'll get up and get it for myself!)
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This is incredible:

But House Democrats say privately they could score a public relations coup by killing this strategy and doing things the old-fashioned way.

from FOX blog

Yeah, RIGHT. /s

81 posted on 03/20/2010 12:11:12 PM PDT by fightinJAG (Donate to keep ads running against Obamacare & Rat congresscritters http://www.dickmorris.com/blog/)
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