Posted on 03/04/2010 9:27:19 AM PST by Mamzelle
Please read about Breitbart's opening salvo against John Podesta and Media Matters.
This is not paranoia. Media Matters, a Soros outfit, is hiring "interns" to come on conservative forums and try to sow division, slow down momentum, forment confusion. And they are better at it than they used to be. They don't curse and swear like liberals on their own forums do.
Nice try at seeking to divert attention from your deceit as exposed through post #266 above. You’re a fraud.
Looks like you suckered at least one poster into not seeing your deceit in reference to the story of the Good Samaritan. As said before, the link to the exchanges was posted to illustrate your lying at FR, not as a means to start a Bible study. Besides, whom would study the Bible with a proven liar like you? And study Revelations with a liar who did know the roles of the named characters in the Good Smaritan story? ... true folly.
Well, if you really want a Bible study in a thread that discusses the Bible, you can go to the Rapture thread, too and study it... :-)
It doesn’t do too much good to post a Bible study in a thread where no one is interested in studying the Bible, as that’s not the topic at hand... doncha know...
LOL ... you’re pretty funny yourself... I always get a kick out of you... :-)
Behind the Scenes of a ZOT! It'll tingle your nodes! :D
A routine check of my posting history would tell you what I really think: He's a common garden variety RINO in the Bush mold.
I always liked that thread.
You're a liar, a deceiving troll working FR. Studying Bible verses with you would be folly since you are a liar. You didn't even know the roles of the named characters in the Good Samaritan story! ... As shown through the post at #266 above in this tyhread, if you've missed it.
You have to take it in steps. I call it The Freeper Mass of Maniacs Strategy. (MOMS for short)
Well, "Mass of Maniacs" works for them ... it's kinda catchy, actually. :-)
Ok here is where it starts. First, the Assessment of Reality. Brutal Truth. The Kenyan stuff ain’t going anywhere. Period. 1. —Dude was born in Hawaii. 2. if Dude wasn’t born in Hawaii, then he is one ballsy SOB to put a fake COLB out on the internet. Too many ways for it to crash. But, if dude could fake a COLB, he could fake a long form.
Under either 1 or 2, the Kenya angle is a loser. Put your eggs in the Kenya basket, and you are going to lose your eggs. Realize accept it.
Fortunately for me, I didn't have the "psychotic break" (like some here did) when Obama was elected and instead, was very unhappy about it (like most FReepers) and wondering how so many people could have ended up voting for him. But, all that did was get me to analyze it and look to what can be done.
That's when I came up with the suggestion here on Free Republic that we all work in our respective states and get the state law passed that makes it a requirement that all candidate must provide their birth certificate or else they cannot be on the ballot in that state.
But, for the "Mass of Maniacs" who had that psychotic break when Obama was elected, that suggestion was simply some "grand conspiracy" to keep Obama in office, doncha know... LOL....
Yes, they've got to start with the assessment of reality, to be sure, as they are sorely lacking in that one area.
And with the issue of being born in Hawaii, after seeing the State of Hawaii make the official announcement that they have his birth certificate and information that shows Obama being born in Hawaii and that he is a natural born citizen... that pretty much puts that one to rest, except for those who haven't "connected with reality" yet, since the election.
But, asking them to "accept it" could be way too much for their fragile mentality at this stage. I'm afraid they will continue in their unattainable quest and be protesting for Obama's birth certificate, even after Obama puts up his Presidential Library. Maybe after that time we could work on them very slowly and see if we could bring them back to reality... but who knows... even then...
Same on the legal aspects. I won’t go into it in detail, but the law is not the Birther’s friend. It’s another dead end. Birthers are already get thrown out of court. Face it. Accept it.
Well, the only legal aspect that has any "chance" of anything is a disputed legal issue. And since it's disputed and there is no legal agreement on it -- it has a chance in the Supreme Court. But nothing will happen until it gets to the Supreme Court and it issues some decision.
That's the "natural born" status of a candidate for President. That is the only thing that could be disputed one way or the other. But, as I say, since it is disputed, there's nothing, at the present time, to make it absolutely certain enough to keep a candidate from office on that basis, because there's an opposing legal argument, doncha know.
But, that's another one that will wait until long after Obama has built his Presidential Library, since the Supreme Court is never fast acting on these kinds of things, sometimes letting these issues go on for quite a long time before ever decided to hear it and render a decision.
Hey don’t get mad just because no one wants to do a Bible study right here in this thread. I know it’s disappointing to you... since you want to post Bible verses.. but hey... you would get more interested people in a Religion thread... doncha know... :-)
See reference to your lying posts at #266 above. And once again, it isn’t about Bible study, it’s about exposing your fraud at FR. You should thank your stars that the FR moderators don’t care how much you lie. But readers and freepers need to know what a liar you are, especially since you claim to be interested in studying The Rapture. You’re a liar. See post #266 above, in this thread, for verification of your deceits.
Well..., I’m not the one who is bringing up Bible quotes here... I mean if you really want to have some kind of Bible study... I’ll give you a little clue... you just look up at the top of the thread... and where you see “News/Activism”... ummm..., just post in threads that say “Religion” up there... LOL...
Then you’ll find people who like to read Bible verses, doncha know... :-)
I think most of them have just fallen for the slew of Birther stuff on the ‘net. There are lots of websites that have put up that Vattel stuff, and when you couch it in “legalese” it sounds like an impressive argument. It isn’t. But it sounds like it is.
I’ve about argued myself silly with some of them, and it is hard, killing work. I think a lot of them have actually come to have severe doubts themselves, but can’t quite go the extra step of admitting that maybe they have been a little too wrapped up in the movement. I think that is why you see some of the raw anger.
Hopefully, the “Blamer” role will provide a transition role wherein those birthers who are having doubts, can still participate in the birther movement, but in a way that accomplishes something positive for the conservatives (and the GOP)
Plus, they are not sitting out there exposed when the extra info comes out. You know, they are going to look pretty foolish if Obama plops out a long form, medical receipts to Dr. West, or whoever, family photos of little Obama in the hospital room with a view out the window of palm tress and hula girls.
That’s an inherent danger when you go that far. You leave yourself exposed. And if something like that does come out, its going to further marginalize them.
parsy
BUT THEY ARE GIVING UP TOO SOON. You see, the Birthers have created something. A powerful thing. A powerful thing that could be used against Obama. What is the thing?......drum rolls.....
TADA! Themselves! They have created a rabid Mass of Maniacs. MOMs are not a thing anybody wants. No one wants to responsible for them. So here is how you turn a liability into an asset.
YOU BLAME OBAMA FOR THE MOMs.
Yeah, the "rabid mass of maniacs" does have a "ring" to it...
But, I don't know about turning them into an asset..., I'm afraid that every GOP candidate I've seen running for office has run far away from that pack of rabid dogs... :-)
It's like the "kiss of death" for any conservative politician to have the label of "birther" on him, if he actually says anything in the campaign in support of that issue. That candidate would be dead-meat in days, if he came out on the campaign trail with some of the things I've seen posted on the birther threads... LOL ...
That's just a fact of life, and no candidate who hopes to win as a conservative with a block of conservative voters will ever come out and say the kinds of things that we've seen on these birther threads. Of course not, the ones who win elections are smarter than that.
But, "blaming the MOMs" (even if it stands for "Mass of Maniacs")..., heck the liberals could turn that one against the conservatives too...
It's just best to say that the birthers are like "ole Uncle Ernie" in the corner (at a party), sorta crazy, but a nice guy once you get to know him... :-)
Mebbe Breitbart needs to hire him some viking kittehs?
That’s an inherent danger when you go that far. You leave yourself exposed. And if something like that does come out, its going to further marginalize them.
Yes..., it's one thing to question something and wonder about it, but it's quite another to make outright statements of someone not being eligible, without any proof of it.
Now, this falls into one of two categories here... (1) the birth certificate and (2) the natural born status.
For those who were on the "birth certificate" end of things, the ground got taken out from under them, with the official announcement from the State of Hawaii saying that Obama was born there in Hawaii and that he is a natural born citizen. That was in Post #291, where it says the following ...
STATEMENT BY HEALTH DIRECTOR CHIYOME FUKINO, M.D.
“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawai‛i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai‘i State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawai‘i and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago.”
With that official statement from the state of Hawaii, if anyone in the general voting public was listening to the Mass of Maniacs, they quit listening to the birth certificate issue at that point.
And with the other part of this "birther issue" -- if anyone was listening to the "natural born status" of a Presidential candidate, they've quit listening a long time ago, because they've figured out that it's going to take the Supreme Court to settle the issue between the two legal sides arguing back and forth... :-)
So, this issue is all going nowhere ... real fast... :-)
Look around you. No one seems to care, so how about getting back to the topic of the thread.
But you just said that Fukino has already settled the issue of Obama's birth certificate and that he and it is legitimate. So then why would any of these state laws closing loopholes and requiring production of a birth certificate have any effect on preventing Obama from running in 2012???
If Fukino is right as you claim she is, then all these state laws, that you claim will close the loophole, won't keep Obama from running in 2012, will they??? So then which is it??? Which of your lies is true: Is Fukino right or will these state laws prevent a 2nd Obama term???
Unless ... yes ... unless you've been lying all along, just like Fukino, and it's just the case of one liar citing another one.
I think you need to invite Fukino and your other DU posters to your Bible Study [#385], but instead of studying the rapture, start with Exodus 20:16 and finish with Rev 21:8, the future of all prefabricators.
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