Posted on 02/27/2010 2:19:29 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
In response to the public outcry over my last report regarding Okubos apparently false response to my request for index data from the Hawaii Birth Index, Miss Janice Okubo has directed staff at the Hawaii Department of Health to release a pdf file containing what appears to be scans of a computer printout containing redacted pages from the Hawaii Birth Index for those sections, which would contain the surnames Payne, Dunham, Soetoro and Obama.
My initial UIPA request of January 22, 2010, sought the index data for all children on the Hawaii Birth Index whose parents surnames were either Obama, Payne, Soetoro or Dunham. The Certificate of Hawaii Birth was issued from 1911 to 1972 for those who wished to have a document proving that they were born in Hawaii. It was a way to apply for a document for those who were born a year before the request was made and who did not have a standard birth certificate, presumably because they were born at home, not in a hospital. I had made my UIPA request to determine if Obama was born before Hawaii became a state, but a name on this Index does not exclusively prove that. If you read the link on Certificate of Hawaii Birth you can see that it was granted to those who provided what the Department of Health considered sufficient proof of a a birth in Hawaii. Thus it provided a vehicle to claim a Hawaii birth without actually being born in Hawaii, if only one succeeded in convincing the Department that you were.(continued)
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Yes, COURT SEALED records.
He was 17-years old when he first attended Occidental College. I doubt the National Democratic machine or the lame-stream media helped out then.
Whoa...that's some scary stuff.
This information has appeared on the internet but not in any newspaper nor on any broadcast/cable news outlet.
If the Republicans take back the Houses of Congress this fall, maybe some of the information concerning BHO’s 39 SSNs will be made public.
More likely when Ayers discovered him around 30
I have been researching Barack Obama’s past since Feb.2008.
Evidence exists that BHO hooked up with Bill Ayers possibly as early as 1983. Both would probably deny it, but they’re both liars, so go figure!
Wow, that early?
I read he was around 30, 1991 or so. Kind of makes sense, didn't "his" book come out when he was 34?
- was born in Kenya, ostensibly to Kenyan Barack Obama, Sr.; q.e.d. automatically a British citizen,
- moved to Hawai'i,
- lived in Seattle,
- moved back to Hawai'i,
- moved to Indonesia on his mother's American passport
- was deemed by Indonesiia to be an Indonesia citizen by virtue of his adopted father,
- received, traveled on, and received financial support based on being an Indonesian citizen,
- used several US Social Security numbers for unclear, but almost certainly fraudulent reasons,
- is either "Barry Soetero" or "Barry Obama", legally, as there's no record of a court-sanctioned name change,
- was never issued a US passport (under Soetero, Obama, or Dunham) until being issued a special passport as U.S. Senator Barack Obama,
- allowed a ficticious Hawai'ian Certification of Live Birth to be generated for himself
- allowed a fraudulent voter registration record to be created for himself, and
- is on record as having lived copious lies all his life.
JMHO,
HF
Your posting is fine, except:
- was born in Kenya,...
That one, like his birth in Hawaii, may or may not be true.
I am of the mind that the BC issue is a red herring meant to divert us from Obama’s possessing Indonesian citizenship.
Here’s why:
The Democratic Party sent a rep to Jakarta, Indonesia, in July, 2007, who paid bribes to that government in exchange for all documents and photographs pertaining to Barack Obama and the Soetoro Family.
BHO was only 6 - 10 years old when he was supposed to have been living there with his step-dad and mom. So why the cover-up?
I believe the secret Obama desperately wants to hide, lies in Indonesia. Just a hunch, you know.
I also missed what might have proceeded this which could explain why the surname PAYNE is involved.
WHO is Payne??
And if that is BHO's real birth surname, then what was his given name?
John McCain has an unambiguous duty to the nation to force the public to at least be informed as to the nature and character of Sen. Obama.
Thanks a lot for nothing, Johnny boy.
I think OBOZO is VERY PROUD of what is on HIS Original Long Form Birth Certificate!! But knows IT DISQUALIFIES HIM TO LEGITIMATELY HOLD THE OFFICE of POTUS!! OBOZO also Loves the Fact that He has Scammed AMERICA, Our HISTORY, Our CULTURE, Our FOREFATHERS and OUR AMERICAN CONSTITUTION!!
Lets remember his Fondling of His Crotch rather than saluting Our Flag and demanding that Chief Justice Roberts swear him in a second time WITHOUT OUR CHRISTIAN BIBLE!!
Does anybody believe the President of the United States couldn’t order up a Bible on 2 minutes notice, let alone the time it took to set up the second Oath!! REPULSIVE!!
But then why would a MUSLIM that Hates AMERICA, accept being sworn in on a Infidel’s Bible?
I am certain Your last statement is the Correct One!
For shame on AMERICAfor being Conned by a Jihadist!...:-(
Ok, I must be confused because I don’t see the smoke of a gun here.
It appears Mr. Charlton is upset because Okubo sent him pdf’s instead of microfiche. And it appears that the Index may be incomplete because some Dunhams who sailed on the Breckenridge didn’t find their way onto the Index. How accurate is any govt index anyway?
On the other hand, there ought to be other indexes, no? Like one listing the names of all people who received bc’s in 1961...and another for those who got them in 1964...and so forth. One would think the index wouldn’t be very personal information not permitted to be seen by the public. It’s just an index. In an ideal world it would also say what drawer the document lies in. Give it a number. If it is an index with cross-references, so that not only the newborn but the parents are listed, perhaps that could be considered confidential and in that case it could be redacted.
If there is no such master index, that would be extraordinary. There has to be one. Either he’s on it or not.
And that includes the possibility that he only got a bc from HI later in life. That’s what addenda are for, so you check the 1961 index again, or the index for each year after until you find him somewhere.
By the way, didn’t his grandmother work with vital records? Maybe instead of looking for his bc we should be looking for whatever she did that she shouldn’t have, like obtaining phony ssn’s for him...or someone else.
Maybe what he’s hiding isn’t so much the bc per se, but some other mischief that was done using the bc.
It really doesn't appear that there's a Hawai'an birth-in-a-hospital record (Barry's always suggested a hospital birth, not at home), despite the newspaper record, which might well have been the Dunhams' doing, as their street address attests, and they would know better than a 17-year old how US citizenship would be far preferred over Kenyan. I don't think they had natural-born, presidential-qualifying status in mind, though I suspect that was later on Stanley Ann's mind through her contacts, and that she planted that in Barry's thinking, as he is on some record as aspiring to at a young age.
The Dim Party agent apparently left the oft-seen Indonesian school record untouched. Maybe other years' records were gotten, leaving one to think that had been taken care of.
If there was a cover-up, perhaps it was Indonesia's required renunciation of US citizenship. (FWIW, my father was born in what was then the Dutch East Indies.) Stanley Ann may not have handed in her current passport, but either just signed something, gave them an out-of-date one, or just did it on Barry and his sister, Maya's behalf.
Little Barry wouldn't have been stripped of a US citizenship by virtue of his mother's representation to Indonesian officials--as far as US officials would be concerned--at his tender age, but such a record may have indicated that Barry had held (only?) British citizenship.
Barry apparently pursued neither a legal name change nor a US passport until being issued one by virtue of his being elected as a US Senator. Why wouldn't he do this? My best guess is that he wouldn't want to be exposed, vis-a-vis SS# usage, and he had his Indonesian passport(s) to fall back upon, which would've been sufficient for travel. Barry apparently didn't renew any British citizenship, to which he might have had some right, as he claimed in one of his books.
I has been suggested that via Occidental College records we would learn that Barry applied as a foreigner, possibly having produced his Indonesian passport. There maybe Columbia records that would be similarly embarassing. Possibly either of those might have had Barry responding to Selective Service Registration information with a "N/A".
HF
This may or may not have any relation to this article but I am sure others may have noticed what I saw earlier today and that was Obamas briefing about the Chilean earthquake, in summary he was distracted and seemed more anxious to be somewhere else, it was such a short speech I was wondering if some other crisis was developing.
Since I was interested in other threads since 3am I have not had to opportunity to update myself on current and somewhat “interesting” birther events or news.
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