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A Glacier Meltdown
WSJ ^ | 1/23/10 | Ed. Staff

Posted on 01/22/2010 9:29:14 PM PST by pissant

Last November, U.N. climate chief Rajendra Pachauri delivered a blistering rebuke to India's environment minister for casting doubt on the notion that global warming was causing the rapid melting of Himalayan glaciers.

"We have a very clear idea of what is happening," the chairman of the U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) told the Guardian newspaper. "I don't know why the minister is supporting this unsubstantiated research. It is an extremely arrogant statement."

Then again, when it comes to unsubstantiated research it's hard to beat the IPCC, whose 2007 report insisted that the glaciers—which feed the rivers that in turn feed much of South Asia—were very likely to nearly disappear by the year 2035. "The receding and thinning of Himalayan glaciers," it wrote in its supposedly definitive report, "can be attributed primarily to the [sic] global warming due to increase in anthropogenic emission of greenhouse gases."

It turns out that this widely publicized prediction was taken from a 2005 report from the World Wildlife Fund, which based it on a comment by Indian glacier expert Syed Hasnain from 1999. Mr. Hasnian now says he was "misquoted." Even more interesting is that the IPCC was warned in 2006 by leading glaciologist Georg Kaser that the 2035 forecast was baseless. "This number is not just a little bit wrong, but far out of any order of magnitude," Mr. Kaser told the Agence France-Presse. "It is so wrong that it is not even worth discussing."

On Wednesday, the IPCC got around to acknowledging that the claim was "poorly substantiated," though Mr. Pachauri also suggested it amounted to little more than a scientific typo. Yet the error is of a piece with other glib, and now debunked, global warming alarms.

Among them: that 1998 was the warmest year on record in the United

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: agw; algore; catastrophism; climatechangedata; glaciergate; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; globalwarmingscandal; hoax; larrysinclairslover; obama; scam
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These rotten commie liars need to be given a last smoke and a bullet.
1 posted on 01/22/2010 9:29:15 PM PST by pissant
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To: pissant; xcamel; SunkenCiv; Marine_Uncle; Fred Nerks; steelyourfaith; NormsRevenge; Oynx

Absolutely!


2 posted on 01/22/2010 9:34:19 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: pissant
I was checking on the reaction to this farce over at RealClimate.org and came across this gem:

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rosie hughes says:
19 January 2010 at 8:04 PM

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, all this fixation on get-it-right, got-it-wrong is obscuring the real issue: the truth is what we define it to be, and the truth is that mankind is a scourge on the planet. The sooner we can limit the right to breed, the sooner the planet will recover. If glacier data is a little incorrect but helps that effort, then the data is true in all but a very narrow and clinical scientific sense.

Common people don’t really understand science. But they understand not having enough to eat and not being able to sit down on a too-crowded subway. if we can educate people not to reproduce there will be many seats and the fewer people will be happier. Indeed, as the capitalist economies of scale are reduced, the [s]atisfaction from making your own clothes and embracing a low-carbon vegan diet will be so intense, reproduction will come to be seen in the same category as child abuse.

I yearn for the day when i might not have been born!

3 posted on 01/22/2010 10:33:29 PM PST by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: jonno

Zoinks!


4 posted on 01/22/2010 10:34:31 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: jonno

eh - it’s gotta be satire...


5 posted on 01/22/2010 10:38:13 PM PST by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: pissant
Isn't this the criminal head of the UN IPCC whose company is reaping million$ as a direct result of the scientific global warming fraud which is both the only source of 'anthropogenic' global warming science that the UN will accept, AND the users of the fraudulent data as the foundation of every IPCCC report of the last 20 years?

A clearer conflict of interest cannot be found, and the arrogance and chutzpah displayed by this criminal cannot be overstated.
The fraud and corruption equals or may dwarf the previous UN corruption champ, the "food for oil" grand larceny.

Why isn't this crook in jail yet?

6 posted on 01/23/2010 12:55:56 AM PST by Publius6961 (He is not America; he is an employee seemingly unable to rise to minimal expectations.)
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I yearn for the day when i might not have been born!

As do the rest of us, certainly.
Rule by the insane is not an attractive option for current and future humanity.

Even Malthus appears sane and well informed, compared to these lunatics.

7 posted on 01/23/2010 12:59:50 AM PST by Publius6961 (He is not America; he is an employee seemingly unable to rise to minimal expectations.)
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This spoiled half wit should go to a Muslim country and tell them not to reproduce so much and limit children......That would be rich! And hazardous to his/her health


8 posted on 01/23/2010 1:09:42 AM PST by dennisw (It all comes 'round again --Fairport)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; rdl6989; mmanager; FreedomPoster; carolinablonde; bamahead; Delacon; ...
Thanx !

 




Beam me to Planet Gore !

9 posted on 01/23/2010 4:40:24 AM PST by steelyourfaith (Freedom from fat cat greedy Big Government tyranny IS a Right ... It IS the Constitution.)
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To: jonno

People with that attitude need to just off themselves for the betterment of Mankind.


10 posted on 01/23/2010 4:54:19 AM PST by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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"We have a very clear idea of what is happening," the chairman of the U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) told the Guardian newspaper. "I don't know why the minister is supporting this unsubstantiated research. It is an extremely arrogant statement." Then again, when it comes to unsubstantiated research it's hard to beat the IPCC, whose 2007 report insisted that the glaciers... were very likely to nearly disappear by the year 2035... It turns out that this widely publicized prediction was taken from a 2005 report from the World Wildlife Fund, which based it on a comment by Indian glacier expert Syed Hasnain from 1999. Mr. Hasnian now says he was "misquoted." Even more interesting is that the IPCC was warned in 2006 by leading glaciologist Georg Kaser that the 2035 forecast was baseless. "This number is not just a little bit wrong, but far out of any order of magnitude," Mr. Kaser told the Agence France-Presse. "It is so wrong that it is not even worth discussing."
Well said, pissant. Thanks Ernest for the ping.
 
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11 posted on 01/23/2010 6:58:29 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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Then get the rope.

The problem is, that the IPCC exists at all. Thanks Ernest.
12 posted on 01/23/2010 7:00:29 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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To: pissant

The funny thing is that this IPCCC guy is an engineer, a railroad engineer.


13 posted on 01/23/2010 7:51:31 AM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Pray for my soul. More things are wrought by prayer Than this world dreams of.-- Idylls of the King)
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"We have a very clear idea of what is happening," the chairman of the U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) told the Guardian newspaper. "I don't know why the minister is supporting this unsubstantiated research. It is an extremely arrogant statement."

How ironic he says what skeptics have been saying all along about the IPCC.

IPCC is now in circle the wagons mode. Defending themselves at all costs.

14 posted on 01/23/2010 8:01:15 AM PST by SteamShovel (When hope trumps reality, there is no hope at all.)
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These rotten commie liars need to be given a last smoke and a bullet.

Skip the last smoke. Go straight to the bullet. Smoking is bad for your health.

15 posted on 01/23/2010 8:04:02 AM PST by Rocky (Obama's ego: The "I's" have it.)
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I yearn for the day when i might not have been born!

I yearn for that day, too.

16 posted on 01/23/2010 8:07:43 AM PST by Rocky (Obama's ego: The "I's" have it.)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

He is a choo-choo driver?


17 posted on 01/23/2010 8:16:04 AM PST by razorback-bert (Just call me mohamed-bert when I am flying.)
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He made them.


18 posted on 01/23/2010 9:03:38 AM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Pray for my soul. More things are wrought by prayer Than this world dreams of.-- Idylls of the King)
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To: pissant

It is evident that scientists are unwilling or unable to police their own. Which is a damn shame.


19 posted on 01/23/2010 9:05:57 AM PST by jwalsh07
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IPCC continues to show it’s contempt for Science. Soot has been recognized as the primary (or at least equal) contributor to the melting of Himalayan glaciers for some time now.

New Study Turns Up the Heat on Soot’s Role in Himalayan Warming

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/12/091214173646.htm


20 posted on 01/23/2010 9:19:53 AM PST by PeteCat
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