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Common Sense May Sink ObamaCare
WSJ ^ | July 24, 2009 | Peggy Noonan

Posted on 07/24/2009 9:16:37 AM PDT by Kaslin

It turns out the president misjudged the nation’s mood.

This is big, what’s happening. President Obama appears to have misstepped on a major initiative and defining issue. He has misjudged the nation’s mood, which itself is news: He rose from nothing to everything with the help of his fine-tuned antennae. Resistance to the Democratic health-care plans is in the air, showing up more now on YouTube than in the polls, but it will be in the polls soon enough. The president, in short, may be facing a real loss. This will be interesting in a number of ways and for a number of reasons, among them that we’ve never seen him publicly defeated before, because he hasn’t been. So we may be entering new territory, with new struggles shaped by new dynamics.

His news conference the other night was bad. He was filibustery and spinny and gave long and largely unfollowable answers that seemed aimed at limiting the number of questions asked and running out the clock. You don’t do that when you’re fully confident. Far more seriously, he didn’t seem to be telling the truth. We need to create a new national health-care program in order to cut down on government spending? Who would believe that? Would anybody?

The common wisdom the past week has been that whatever challenges health care faces, the president will at least get something because he has a Democratic House and Senate and they’re not going to let their guy die. He’ll get this or that, maybe not a new nationalized system but some things, and he’ll be able to declare some degree of victory.

And this makes sense. But after the news conference, I found myself wondering if he’d get anything.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: 111th; agenda; bho44; bhofascism; bhohealthcare; democrats; noonan; obama; obamacare; peggynoonan; rahm; socializedmedicine
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1 posted on 07/24/2009 9:16:37 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

“Common Sense May Sink ObamaCare”

Common Sense should have kept him out the the WH!


2 posted on 07/24/2009 9:18:20 AM PDT by SMARTY ("Stay together, pay the soldiers and forget everything else" Lucius Septimus Severus)
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To: SMARTY
"Common Sense May Sink ObamaCare"
3 posted on 07/24/2009 9:20:39 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies (Obama is "An" AntiChrist...but is he "THE" AntiChrist? The jury is still out...for the moment!)
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To: Kaslin

Common sense ain’t.


4 posted on 07/24/2009 9:20:57 AM PDT by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (Those who provide the least and demand the most have a voting majority.)
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To: Kaslin
Common Sense May SHOULD Sink ObamaCare

There - fixed it!

Still not holding my breath, though.

5 posted on 07/24/2009 9:21:16 AM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: Kaslin

Maybe common sense is returning to Miss Noonan?

Ahh...I spoke too soon:

“He rose from nothing to everything with the help of his fine-tuned antennae”

Miss Noonan: You sure the corrupt Chicago political machine has NOTHING to do with this?


6 posted on 07/24/2009 9:21:53 AM PDT by mattdono (The platform I want: Stop spending my money. Stop sending my money. Stop taking my money.)
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To: Kaslin

I want the federal government OUT OF HEALTHCARE. As for MEDICARE they should go after prosecuting the fraud that exceeds billions of dollars every year. That would be useful and save a lot of tax dollars.


7 posted on 07/24/2009 9:22:43 AM PDT by Rapscallion (Obama - The wolf in the suit.)
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To: mattdono

Peggy is a Notre Dame (baby killing) Catholic.


8 posted on 07/24/2009 9:22:54 AM PDT by Frantzie (Remember when Bush was President and Americans had jobs (and ammo)?)
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To: Kaslin
Here is a link to the full House Democrat Health Care Plan in PDF. In Section 1233 E & F, pages 426-433, you find the part about mandatory end-of-life counseling for anyone over 65 years of age.

HOUSE DEMOCRAT HEALTH CARE PLAN - http://www.jeffhead.com/DemHealthCare.htm

Also, here's a large image of the Democratic (Obama) Health Plan chart-another Obama empty promise. This is the one the House democrats are censuring. Email these links or the image to everyone you know.


Decmocrat (Obama) Health Plan
http://www.jeffhead.com/DemHealthCare.htm

Obama and all those pushing his radical agenda are abject marxist ideologues. Their "fundamental; change" is nothing more than a destruction of the American free market and fundamental republican principle.

A PETITION FOR CONSTITUTIONAL RESTORATION

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA

A 4TH OF JULY TEA PARTY SPEECH

...and on the lighter side, take your mind off the Obamanation for a few minutes and enjoy some beautiful Western US scenery slideshows.

JEFF HEAD'S WESTERN US SCENERY SLIDE SHOWS

9 posted on 07/24/2009 9:23:37 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Kaslin

good article with insightful comments - share with friends


10 posted on 07/24/2009 9:23:40 AM PDT by Tirian
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To: Kaslin

Obama does not have a “fine tuned antenna”.

He is clueless, and is at the beck and call of his alien friends Rahm whoever-idiot-savant, etc.

Good grief, how many Obamateurisms do we need?

If not the president, I challenge anyone to think of something he would be hired for (not by ACORN or other completely criminal enterprises).


11 posted on 07/24/2009 9:24:28 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Tirian

I agree. Although Noonan irked me during the campaign, this article is spot on


12 posted on 07/24/2009 9:28:08 AM PDT by Def Conservative (Obama is a joke.)
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To: All

Attention fellow Texans:

Governor Rick Perry may invoke the 10th Amendment over Obama’s health care bill (Vanity)
7/23/09 | Cowtowney
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2299225/posts?q=1&;page=51

Join this organization and just say no to Obamadeathcare.
Send a message; ‘No! NO you don’t, you muzzie pos. You’re not denying our seniors deserved health care while insuring millions of illegal aliens and while Demorats are REJECTING Obamacare for themselves and their families!’

From the website:
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office (972) 466-2915
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You have publicly supported this bill, and stated that attorney generals from all over the union could be getting ready to sue the US Government.

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From ‘Texans Against Government Controlled health Care’
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To all Texas elected officials:

“Don’t Mess with Texas” has been a proud motto in the Lone Star State. Now with Government controlled socialized healthcare appearing inevitable, we say “NOT IN TEXAS!” We ask our elected officials to cite the 10th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution as the reason why Texas rejects and will not accept the U.S. Government takeover of our healthcare system!

The 10th Amendment states: “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”

States’ rights, in the United States, is political doctrine advocating the strict limitation of the prerogatives of the federal government to those powers explicitly assigned to it in the Constitution of the United States, and reserving to the states all other powers not explicitly forbidden them. The doctrine of states’ rights has been the cause of bitter controversy at several periods in U.S. history.

The impending death of free market healthcare is an important issue that will again cause bitter controversy.

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The saving of our free market healthcare system is one of the most important tasks ever to face Texas.

When are we going to hear Texas politicians saying: “The Government Controlled Socialized Healthcare stops at the Texas border!”

The Texas citizens are waiting to hear from you. We don’t have much time. President Obama wants a healthcare bill out by August 1st.

Tell the news media loud and clear: “NOT IN TEXAS”

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From Texans Against Government Controlled Health Care

http://www.notintexas.org/

Facts about the 10th Amendment:

The Tenth Amendment (Amendment X) of the United States Constitution, which is part of the Bill of Rights, was ratified on December 15, 1791. The Tenth Amendment restates the Constitution’s principle of Federalism by providing that powers not granted to the national government nor prohibited to the states are reserved to the states or the people.

Why Texans should fight National Healthcare:

When all of America’s top health insurers and providers met at the White House this week and pledged to save $2 trillion over the next decade in health costs, they were pledging to sabotage our medical care. The blunt truth, which everybody (the politicians and healthcare providers) agreed to keep quiet, is that the only way to reduce these costs is to ration healthcare, thereby destroying our system. http://www.notintexas.org/Front_4.htm

>Cutting Doctors’ fees will reduce access. Your doctor may not accept the government health plan. Congress is wanting to cut Medicare fees by 21 percent. Cuts in Medicare reimbursements will spill into the government health plan and ultimately limit the number of doctors and hospitals that will accept the government plan.

>Much like the HMO’s of the 80’s your doctor access will be restricted to the few doctors who will accept the socialized plan.

>Limiting the availability of doctors and hospitals will have many devastating effects. Most threatening are:

>Over crowding waiting rooms

Backlog of medical testing i.e. CAT scans, MRI, PET scans etc...

>Rationing of Health Care

>Reduction of quality college students choosing medicine as a profession.

>With our aging population, quality health care providers needed now more than ever.

>We can pay with our lives. The federal government want us to believe they can “mandate away” 2 trillion dollars of medical expenses. We have learned from our friends from the north (the Canadians), the best way to reduce cost is to ration care.

>Government bureaucrats will pour over data and decide what the best means of care will be for the largest number of patients.
If medical condition differs from the government guidelines, it will NOT be paid by the government.
Should your doctor(s) decide the government allowed treatment is not for you, your doctors hands will be tied. If you don’t have the financial means to pay for your treatment elsewhere, it could cost you your life.
In Canada, colonoscopies are rationed for colon cancer. Canada’s colon cancer rate is 25 percent higher than in the U.S. even though Canada’s population is smaller.

>We know from history, once a government program of this nature is passed, whether it is a total failure or not, it will NEVER be rescinded.

Solution:

Texans can reject, and refuse to pay for, the federal government health plan. Texas will attract the BEST trained, MOST experienced doctors (and upcoming doctors) in the country. Texas will be the envy of every state in the union.

The truth about government controlled healthcare:
Government healthcare is failing miserably in Massachusetts
If you think a government run healthcare system can work and be more affordable, read this... http://www.notintexas.org/Front_5.htm

Article from the Washington Examiner 1/11/09:
“Obama’s health policy advisers should take a good look at the smoldering wreckage in the Bay State before trying to impose any such “universal coverage” on the rest of the nation.” Link http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/Universal_coverage_First_look_at_the_disaster_in_Massachusetts_011109.html

More interesting reading - Free Market Cure
http://www.freemarketcure.com/

Medicare - What is all the fuss about?
Medicare (and health insurance) is a political football. The aging baby boomers are currently contributing more tax dollars to the Medicare Trust Fund than they ever will again in our lifetime. In 2011, the first baby boomers will become eligible for Medicare, and many of them will retire, no longer contributing to the tax base.
Instead, they will become consumers of the Medicare system and begin to tap into the very funds they contributed to Medicare for more than 40 years. Within a few decades, we will suffer massive deficits caused by Medicare, Medicaid (welfare—long term care) and Social Security.
There is simply not a way to finance the Medicare system long term by raising taxes. Even if taxes were raised by 50 percent of the current rate, there still would not be enough money to fund the Medicare Part A Trust Fund for the long term.
The current Part A trust is expected to pay more than it takes in by 2019, and some are estimating this will begin to occur as early as 2016.

HCR 50 HAS PASSED THE HOUSE 99-36!
Affirming that the State of Texas claims sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States over all powers not otherwise enumerated and granted to the federal government by the U.S. Constitution, serving notice to the federal government to cease and desist certain mandates, and providing that certain federal legislation be prohibited or repealed.

Take Action! Before it is too late!


13 posted on 07/24/2009 9:28:24 AM PDT by patriot08
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To: Kaslin

He didn’t misjudge the mood of the people. He has been a total and complete con artist from the start. Peggy wasn’t paying attention. He did everything in his power to get this cow chip of a bill passed BEFORE THE PUBLIC KNEW WHAT WAS IN IT!!!!!!!!

He KNEW very well the country did not want this. Misjudged the mood my a$$!


14 posted on 07/24/2009 9:30:58 AM PDT by RatRipper (I HATE tax & spend politicians)
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To: Kaslin
When everyone pays for the same health-care system, the overseers will feel more and more a right to tell you how to live, which simple joys are allowed and which are not.

Americans in the most personal, daily ways feel they are less free than they used to be. And they are right, they are less free.

Who wants more of that?

LOL. Chronically unfocused, post-menopausal Obama groupie Noonan finds an unwelcome chicken coming home to roost.

It's amazing what fear of confiscation of one's healthy future can do, even to hazy, dull-eyed, one-time pundits, whose analytical and communication skills have fallen to serious decline.

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15 posted on 07/24/2009 9:31:59 AM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: Kaslin
We won round one. Pelosi was just blowing smoke with her, “we have the votes”.
Now that you Representative is coming home for the August break, give them an earful so they have no doubt how we want them to vote when they return to Washington.
16 posted on 07/24/2009 9:36:36 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: Kaslin

Peggy “Useful Idiot” Noonan apparently still has some common sense left.


17 posted on 07/24/2009 9:46:16 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: NavyCanDo
We won round one. Pelosi was just blowing smoke with her, “we have the votes”.

BS! Rham Emmanuel is already stating the vote will occur before the August break. Congressional members are stating they may bypass the Blue Dog Democrat committee and bring a bill to the floor for a vote. Fox News has stated that Harry Reid and Max Baucus have been called to the WH for arm twisting (arm breaking). If you think this is over, get real. They want this passed. They know the mood of the people and they're not taking chances. They want it passed NOW so they can go on to immigration. They want the illegals legalized and included in healthcare so they will vote Democrat in 2010. This is all designed to insulate them in the 2010 elections because they know the mood in America is turning against them. Their only recourse is to fast track this.

18 posted on 07/24/2009 9:46:52 AM PDT by bcsco (When Obama mentioned shovel ready jobs, I never thought he might be thinking of graves.)
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To: NavyCanDo

“Now that you Representative is coming home for the August break, give them an earful so they have no doubt how we want them to vote when they return to Washington.”

New reports are saying the House will vote on this still before the August recess. Check the “breaking” forum. Another article about Pelosi hitting the throttle on this.

I don’t trust them as far as I can throw them.


19 posted on 07/24/2009 9:48:32 AM PDT by green pastures
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To: mattdono
"“He rose from nothing to everything with the help of his fine-tuned antennae”
Miss Noonan: You sure the corrupt Chicago political machine has NOTHING to do with this?

Neither inmho....he or someone figured out that political correctness had advanced to the level that no one would dare criticize a black man for fear of being labeled racist.

20 posted on 07/24/2009 9:49:13 AM PDT by chiller (almost speechless)
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