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Hawaiian newspapers don't prove birthplace
WorldNetDaily ^ | July 22, 2009 | Drew Zahn

Posted on 07/22/2009 8:30:14 PM PDT by RobinMasters

The announcements of Barack Obama's birth printed by two Hawaii newspapers in 1961 do not provide solid proof of a birth in the Aloha State because of uncertainties over the policies and procedures that apparently were being used at the time.

The Honolulu Star-Bulletin, for example, according to its website, now reprints birth information it receives from Hawaii's Department of Health.

"We don't have an editor who handles birth and marriage announcements; we print what we receive from the Department of Health Vital Statistics System," a Star-Bulletin newsroom operator explained to WND.

The operator said, "This is how we've always done it."

The newspaper's "proof" of birth, therefore, could be based on a state-issued "Certification of Live Birth" which, as WND has reported is insufficient alone, even for some State Department officials, to document the birthplace.

Many people remain unaware a child does not even have to be born in Hawaii to receive a Certification of Live Birth, the very "evidence" the White House has cited in defending its assertion Obama was born in Hawaii.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: article2section1; barackobama; bho2009; bho44; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; colb; eligibility; ineligible; kenya; naturalborn; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamanoncitizenissue; racheldoro; usurper
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To: Jedidah
On the COLB.

Ah, there it is. But it turns out that that's correct.

honolulu.gov: Website of the City and County of Honolulu

Wikipedia: Honolulu County

141 posted on 07/23/2009 12:08:53 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Lady Jag

So what is that in the backyard? A personal Mosque? lol


142 posted on 07/23/2009 12:10:24 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: usmcobra; WilliamofCarmichael; BP2; Las Vegas Ron; UriÂ’el-2012
Thank you everyone. FReepers are the best!

There is the City and County of Honolulu. Oahu is the island.

I'm posting on a forum at my local paper. Boy, there are some nasty people there that hate Free Republic!

143 posted on 07/23/2009 12:11:58 PM PDT by Alice in Wonderland
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To: Vendome
What I want to know is why the few BC’s from Hawaii I have seen alway start their file number with “151”?

That's the vital records form number.

144 posted on 07/23/2009 12:16:45 PM PDT by Polarik (Obama: When destroying America is not enough.)
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To: for-q-clinton; null and void; Beckwith; stockpirate; PhilDragoo; Candor7; MeekOneGOP; Myrddin; ...

These announcements were phoned in from parents or family members ALL OF THE TIME.

Once again....OLD NEWS.


145 posted on 07/23/2009 12:18:50 PM PDT by Polarik (Obama: When destroying America is not enough.)
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To: RobinMasters; null and void; Beckwith; stockpirate; PhilDragoo; Candor7; MeekOneGOP; Myrddin; ...

Obama does not have a 2007 Certification of Live Birth. What’s posted on the Internet are fabricated fakes.


146 posted on 07/23/2009 12:20:17 PM PDT by Polarik (Obama: When destroying America is not enough.)
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To: Polarik

My grandmother has phoned in dozens of these birth announcements and I don’t believe the local paper has ever demanded proof that she was telling the truth.

Actually, if someone has a few bucks they wish to waste, they should send their own birth announcement to a paper just to show how easy it is to do.


147 posted on 07/23/2009 12:22:46 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: cripplecreek

EXACTLY! Thanks for the info.


148 posted on 07/23/2009 12:29:24 PM PDT by Polarik (Obama: When destroying America is not enough.)
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To: rolling_stone
Honolulu is a city and county (it is also the capital of Hawaii)..like The city of San Diego, County of San Diego..sorry...

I can assure you that in the mid 50s when I lived in Hawaii,

Honolulu was a city among others including Waihiwa, Pearl City, Waialua.

The County of Oahu included all of the archipelago except Hawaii, Maui Kauai, Molokai, Lanai, Kahoolawe, Niihau up to and including Midway.

Since it has become a State, the Democrats have screwed up everything.


149 posted on 07/23/2009 12:33:50 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: Polarik

Can’t be.

A short form and a long form would have different numbers, wouldn’t they?

Thanks again.


150 posted on 07/23/2009 12:33:58 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

I am going to print it and get back to you.


151 posted on 07/23/2009 12:34:37 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012
The County of Oahu included all of the archipelago except Hawaii, Maui Kauai, Molokai, Lanai, Kahoolawe, Niihau up to and including Midway.

According to numerous sources, the consolidated City and County of Honolulu was established in 1907.

152 posted on 07/23/2009 12:42:19 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
Did you live in Hawaii in the 50s ?

153 posted on 07/23/2009 12:45:03 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: tophat9000
I thought this was all bull for the longest time... but when someone will not provide a simple answer to a simplequestion the you got to wonder

I'm hearing this more and more, especially from non-political types who tend to want to steer clear of controversial issues. Surprisingly, a good number of Obama supporters are coming to the same uncomfortable conclusion. It's a matter of simple logic.

It's a real problem for Obama, and I think that's why we're seeing this sudden, in-concert pushback from mainstream media, when standing orders previously were to ignore it.

154 posted on 07/23/2009 12:47:39 PM PDT by Eroteme
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To: Vendome

You *can* amend your birth record so the COLB printout will be changed. The underyling “birth certificate” is there is one would not itself be “changed” necessarily. The amendments would be added to the record, but the original information would still be there.


155 posted on 07/23/2009 12:56:03 PM PDT by Plummz (pro-constitution, anti-corruption)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

I lived in Hawaii in the 60’s...see bc at post 123 line 7b for county -Honolulu. My first excursion into civics/politics (not even a teenager yet)had me writing & rooting for Dan Inouye (d) over Ben Dillingham (r)-1962


156 posted on 07/23/2009 12:59:03 PM PDT by rolling_stone (no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)
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To: rbg81

Perhaps his grandparents wanted a record of his birth.


157 posted on 07/23/2009 1:01:38 PM PDT by ncpatriot
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To: UriÂ’el-2012
Did you live in Hawaii in the 50s ?

Maybe you should contact Honolulu County and tell them that when they say on their website that "The County of Oahu began operating on July 1, 1905, and two years later was renamed the City and County of Honolulu" that they're completely wrong. What do they know, huh?

158 posted on 07/23/2009 1:04:50 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Vendome

Then it’s a Census code for Hawaii.


159 posted on 07/23/2009 1:20:32 PM PDT by Polarik (Obama: When destroying America is not enough.)
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To: Plummz
Yes, but the idea that is an all-inclusive list of all reported deaths that time period is an unwarranted assumption. When you assume, you make an ass of you.

I thought we were looking at births...

160 posted on 07/23/2009 3:07:06 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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