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Discrimination: From Equality To Payback
IBD Editorials ^ | June 15, 2009 | THOMAS SOWELL

Posted on 06/15/2009 5:57:49 PM PDT by Kaslin

Back when I was on the receiving end of racial discrimination, it was to me not simply a personal misfortune, or even the misfortune of a race, it was a moral outrage. But not everyone who went through such an experience sees it that way.

When it comes to subjecting other people to the same treatment in a later era, some have no real problem with that. They see it as payback.

One of the many problems of the payback approach is that many of the people who most deserve retribution are no longer alive. You can take symbolic revenge on people who look like them, but this removes the whole moral element.

If it is all right to discriminate today against individuals who have done you no harm, then why was it wrong to discriminate against you in the past?

These are not just abstract questions. These are serious, real-world questions, especially when considering someone to be given a lifetime appointment to the Supreme Court of the United States.

Some judicial nominees have had racial bias attributed to them, despite their years of unwavering support of civil rights for all — Judge Robert Bork and Judge Charles Pickering being striking examples. But the current Supreme Court nominee is the first in decades to explicitly introduce racial differences in their own words, along with the claim that their own racial or ethnic background makes them better qualified.

Attempts to claim that Judge Sonia Sotomayor's words were isolated remarks — a slip of the tongue "taken out of context" — have now been discredited by further information showing that she has repeatedly expressed the same ideas, in virtually the same words, at other times and in other contexts.

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1 posted on 06/15/2009 5:57:49 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: jazusamo

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2 posted on 06/15/2009 5:58:28 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for 0bama: One Bad Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin
One of the many problems of the payback approach is that many of the people who most deserve retribution are no longer alive. You can take symbolic revenge on people who look like them, but this removes the whole moral element.

And PAYBACK works both ways.

3 posted on 06/15/2009 6:13:21 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Kaslin
she has repeatedly expressed the same ideas, in virtually the same words, at other times and in other contexts.

Of course she's racist, Zero would never have named her if she weren't.

4 posted on 06/15/2009 6:23:14 PM PDT by Graybeard58 ( Selah.)
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To: Kaslin; abigail2; Amalie; American Quilter; arthurus; awelliott; Bahbah; bamahead; Battle Axe; ...
Thanks for the ping, Kaslin.

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5 posted on 06/15/2009 6:42:43 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo; All

I love you, Dr. Sowell! Marry me!


6 posted on 06/15/2009 6:45:45 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Kaslin

It’s never been about “equality”. Revenge, payback, whatever you want to call it, has always been the goal and probably always will be.


7 posted on 06/15/2009 6:59:01 PM PDT by phredo53
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To: Kaslin

It has little to do with being treated equally. Its always been about payback, revenge or whatever you want to call it.


8 posted on 06/15/2009 7:01:37 PM PDT by phredo53
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To: jazusamo

Thanks for the ping to another excellent article by Dr. Sowell jaz.


9 posted on 06/15/2009 7:07:39 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...Call 'em What you Will, They ALL have Fairies Living In Their Trees.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I saw him first. However, you can have my place if you give me the chocolate.


10 posted on 06/15/2009 7:07:48 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (.)
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To: Kaslin
Attempts to claim that Judge Sonia Sotomayor's words were isolated remarks — a slip of the tongue "taken out of context" — have now been discredited by further information showing that she has repeatedly expressed the same ideas, in virtually the same words, at other times and in other contexts.


11 posted on 06/15/2009 7:14:32 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (<P>Oh Yeah<P><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajsov1M4h50"> Thank You Satan 1:50</a>)
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To: Kaslin
If it is all right to discriminate today against individuals who have done you no harm, then why was it wrong to discriminate against you in the past?

Precisely. Payback is validation when it isn't directed against the offender. All it does is create new offenders. Put hoods and sheets on Jeremiah Wright and his cohorts and they'd be indistinguishable from the original owners.

12 posted on 06/15/2009 7:16:44 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

Oh, man! Don’t make me choose between love and chocolate!

That’s as harsh as ‘Sophie’s Choice,’ LOL!


13 posted on 06/15/2009 7:18:17 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Graybeard58

The racist fleshist world of “pay back” makes her boss and satisfies her perverse desires.

These people are freak mafya prostitution bosses of a loser world. If being a whore made her boss, she’d be a whore all the same.

This flesh for that flesh equalitarianism is the bottom line of liberal politics, fascism in desguise, narcissism and devil like premeditation of structures welcoming such people and system to conversion. It negates discussion of policy, promotes denial and invites drunken illiterate prides.

We are suffering persecutions under a sick sinful cult of boozers who want to be kept up boozing - from free sex to free health “care”. Al Capone is in charge, making sure his loser world keeps getting its subsidies and racket and drug pushing business supported.

It’s time we fight back, or, rather, ran away from this doom by fighting it off and shaking the dust from under our feet. The very past racist persecutors are the very same today calling for reparations, and they oddly used booze to attract black voters in this strangest of Kumbayas.


14 posted on 06/15/2009 7:43:40 PM PDT by JudgemAll (control freaks, their world & their problem with my gun and my protecting my private party)
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To: Sarah Barracuda; GOPmember

Sotomeyor Ping!


15 posted on 06/15/2009 8:35:15 PM PDT by TheThinker (America doesn't have a president. It has a usurper.)
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To: Kaslin
If it is all right to discriminate today against individuals who have done you no harm, then why was it wrong to discriminate against you in the past?

He always does what I strive to do but can't as much as I would like.

He refutes an argument in an elegant and hard-hitting way in the span of a one sentence.

Isn't this a Socratic form of argument?

16 posted on 06/15/2009 8:40:11 PM PDT by TheThinker (America doesn't have a president. It has a usurper.)
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To: jazusamo
"A tape of Judge Sotomayor's abusive behavior in court backed up the attorneys' picture. It is also consistent with someone in payback mode."

As someone whose job necessitated frequent appearances in court, I encountered a number of judges like Judge Sotomayor. It wasn't pleasant appearing before them. They behave like tyrants in their own courtrooms.

For the record, Republicans MUST emphasize Sotomayor's racist comments and tendencies. It isn't clear to me how they could possibly successfully block her nomination. Even if they could, Obama will nominate another likeminded person in her place. They are peas in a pod. Obama is about payback as well.

17 posted on 06/15/2009 10:38:28 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Bush's recession, Obama's depression.)
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To: Kaslin

Payback leads to blowback ....


18 posted on 06/15/2009 10:45:00 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Out of gas become a pill box, Out of ammo become a bunker, Out of hope become a hero.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
I love you, Dr. Sowell! Marry me!
Judge Sotomayor is not in jeopardy of either criminal or civil penalties. So there is no reason why either the criminal standard or proof "beyond a reasonable doubt" or the civil standard of "the preponderance of evidence" is required for determining whether she is the right person to be given a lifetime appointment to the highest court of the land.

. . . It is the American people as a whole who are entitled to the benefit of the doubt.

I'd say that your love is requited, right there.

And I agree with you. Every Republican presidential candidate since about 1980 has blundered by not nominating Thomas Sowell for VP. He should have been installed as a justice of SCOTUS long ago.


19 posted on 06/16/2009 3:50:56 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The conceit of journalistic objectivity is profoundly subversive of democratic principle.)
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To: TAdams8591
For the record, Republicans MUST emphasize Sotomayor's racist comments and tendencies.

Absolutely, make everyone aware of it and perhaps she'll think twice when on that highest bench because I believe as you do there's no way to block her nomination.

20 posted on 06/16/2009 10:25:32 AM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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