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CIA report: Israel will fall in 20 years
Press TV ^ | 13 Mar 2009 | Press TV

Posted on 03/15/2009 2:05:25 PM PDT by Squidpup

A study conducted by the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) has cast doubt over Israel's survival beyond the next 20 years.

The CIA report predicts "an inexorable movement away from a two-state to a one-state solution, as the most viable model based on democratic principles of full equality that sheds the looming specter of colonial Apartheid while allowing for the return of the 1947/1948 and 1967 refugees. The latter being the precondition for sustainable peace in the region."

The study, which has been made available only to a certain number of individuals, further forecasts the return of all Palestinian refugees to the occupied territories, and the exodus of two million Israeli - who would move to the US in the next fifteen years.

"There is over 500,000 Israelis with American passports and more than 300,000 living in the area of just California," International lawyer Franklin Lamb said in an interview with Press TV on Friday, adding that those who do not have American or western passport, have already applied for them.

"So I think the handwriting at least among the public in Israel is on the wall...[which] suggests history will reject the colonial enterprise sooner or later," Lamb stressed.

He said CIA, in its report, alludes to the unexpectedly quick fall of the apartheid government in South Africa and recalls the disintegration of the Soviet Union in the early 1990s, suggesting the end to the dream of an 'Israeli land' would happen 'way sooner' than later.

The study further predicts the return of over one and a half million Israelis to Russia and other parts of Europe, and denotes a decline in Israeli births whereas a rise in the Palestinian population.

Lamb said given the Israeli conduct toward the Palestinians and the Gaza strip in particular, the American public -- which has been voicing its protest against Tel Aviv's measures in the last 25 years -- may 'not take it anymore'.

Some members of the US Senate Intelligence Committee have been informed of the report.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Israel
KEYWORDS: badsource; bho44; bhomiddleeast; cia; iran; iranisanpropaganda; islamicpresstv; israel; obama; presstviran; presstvisiranian; propaganda; wot
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To: editor-surveyor

Israel is one of few nations in the history of the world that has never gone to war for non-defensive reasons.


151 posted on 03/15/2009 5:15:35 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Polybius
"Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come." ..... Matthew 24:42

"But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief." 1Thess 5:4

Are these two verses in conflict? - Definately not! "Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come" is a direct reference to Yom Kippur, which in that time could only be declared by Lunar observation at Jerusalem.

152 posted on 03/15/2009 5:17:06 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: Squidpup

Not happening. They really should read Ezekiel 38, 39 for the program of events.


153 posted on 03/15/2009 5:17:26 PM PDT by GBA
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To: Quix
Pretty simple, huh?

: > )

154 posted on 03/15/2009 5:19:16 PM PDT by Syncro
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To: PghBaldy

There are 2 Jews in the Iranian parliament. I think the only reason they are there is so Iran can claim they “respect minority rights” and polish its image. It’s totally bogus.


155 posted on 03/15/2009 5:19:59 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat (I'm learning Arabic, Farsi, Urdu, Pashtu, and Russian so someday you won't have to)
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To: Syncro

In a lot of respects, it’s utterly simple.

TRUST GOD

or suffer the consequences.

BELIEVE GOD

or suffer the consequences.

AGREE WITH GOD

or suffer the consequences.

STAND ON GOD’S SIDE

or suffer the consequences.

LOVE WHAT GOD LOVES; HATE WHAT GOD HATES;

or suffer the consequences.

Thx.


156 posted on 03/15/2009 5:22:02 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Hank Kerchief
"The man responsible for the present state of Israel was Harry Truman."

Wrong.

Truman's own man ....Truman's Ambassador to the UN voted against the establishment of the State of Israel.

"..On March 19, 1948, Warren Austin, U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, without the President's knowledge or White House clearance, announced on national radio as well as to the UN Security Council that the US government opposed the partition of Palestine. On March 20, Secretary of State George Marshal made a similar announcement. ..."

If you believe that crap about Truman having "no knowledge"  then you are a beyond naive. Truman was against the so called "Jewish State."

The USA however, was first to recognize the new State once it did pass the UN vote acknowledging Israel as a State.
 
Truman evidently read a few polls on the issue.
 
He was (Re-) elected President the following year, BTW!
 
1 source  link below....
 
http://www.mideastweb.org/us_supportforstate.htm

157 posted on 03/15/2009 5:22:36 PM PDT by Radix (22;22 EST, 13 Feb 2009, C-Span2, Silent wait for Sen to come bury USA after burying his Mom)
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To: editor-surveyor

Give me the day and week between now and 2015 so I can put it on my calendar.

I want to go, “Cripes, I still have one more year at least to worry about my 401k”. I’ll not schedule a vacation on that week.


158 posted on 03/15/2009 5:23:12 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Quix

Amen


159 posted on 03/15/2009 5:29:30 PM PDT by Syncro
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To: editor-surveyor
"Are you familiar with El Shaddai?"

I think that James Michener wrote about El Shaddai "the God of the Mountain" in his book "The Source."

Good book, I read it twice.

160 posted on 03/15/2009 5:32:28 PM PDT by Radix (22;22 EST, 13 Feb 2009, C-Span2, Silent wait for Sen to come bury USA after burying his Mom)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; george76; ...
The CIA report predicts "an inexorable movement away from a two-state to a one-state solution, as the most viable model based on democratic principles of full equality that sheds the looming specter of colonial Apartheid while allowing for the return of the 1947/1948 and 1967 refugees. The latter being the precondition for sustainable peace in the region." The study, which has been made available only to a certain number of individuals, further forecasts the return of all Palestinian refugees to the occupied territories, and the exodus of two million Israeli - who would move to the US in the next fifteen years... He said CIA, in its report, alludes to the unexpectedly quick fall of the apartheid government in South Africa and recalls the disintegration of the Soviet Union in the early 1990s, suggesting the end to the dream of an 'Israeli land' would happen 'way sooner' than later... The study further predicts the return of over one and a half million Israelis to Russia and other parts of Europe, and denotes a decline in Israeli births whereas a rise in the Palestinian population.
"Way sooner"?!? Yeah, it sounds like an *actual* report prepared by the CIA.
161 posted on 03/15/2009 5:37:21 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Syncro

BLESSED BE THE NAME OF THE LORD.

THX.


162 posted on 03/15/2009 5:42:00 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: F15Eagle

13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
* * * * *

Pelosi, Reid and Nobama?


163 posted on 03/15/2009 5:44:08 PM PDT by Canedawg (Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press.)
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To: Squidpup

Franklin Lamb is a crazed moonbat Jew hater.

Expect him to be nominated to replace Chas Freeman as NIC chairman.


164 posted on 03/15/2009 5:50:46 PM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: Squidpup; rmlew; Yehuda; SJackson

20 years? I don’t think so, Obambi has three years to set fire to the house and he probably will.


165 posted on 03/15/2009 5:58:21 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Polybius

In an era of nuclear weapons, we are living in the times.


166 posted on 03/15/2009 6:00:58 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: Squidpup

It probably also spells the US losing the War on Terror...


167 posted on 03/15/2009 6:07:55 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: G8 Diplomat
Gee, thanks. Now we just have to seed this surreptitiously into some Obama-friendly forum, claiming we have seen "signs and wonders"... /extreme sarc>

Although it is a pretty good likeness of the stimulus "plan".

Thanks again, G8.

(Hope the finals are going well, too.)

Cheers!

168 posted on 03/15/2009 6:08:00 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

You’re welcome :)

The finals are going well


169 posted on 03/15/2009 6:14:40 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat (I'm learning Arabic, Farsi, Urdu, Pashtu, and Russian so someday you won't have to)
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To: Dog Gone

Look up the day that Yom Kippur falls on for 2015.
If that’s not it we wait until 2022, etc.


170 posted on 03/15/2009 6:20:50 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: total
Birobidzhan is a better location anyways.
Oil, gas, timber, and water.

page 1 on Birobidzhan
page 2-3 on Birobidzhan
page 4-5 on Birobidzhan
page 6 on Birobidzhan
From the Encyclopedia Judaica.

I think the CIA is following Albert Pike:

"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm … Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view."

171 posted on 03/15/2009 6:21:30 PM PDT by Obamageddon (Birth certificate and college transcripts will be required for Federal employment, Mr. Soetero)
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To: Squidpup

Amen - Israel will be defended. No man will stop that from happening.


172 posted on 03/15/2009 6:21:57 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA ("The Dark Side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.")
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To: Squidpup

God has other ideas.


173 posted on 03/15/2009 6:28:17 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: Dallas59

“... Great. Another 2,000,000 diehard liberal immigrant voters.”

.... Yeah, you’re right.


174 posted on 03/15/2009 6:44:18 PM PDT by Bhoy (TEA PARTY ON)
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To: Squidpup

God has His hand on Israel. If God be for them, who can prevail against them?


175 posted on 03/15/2009 7:06:08 PM PDT by Purrcival (Proud to share my birthday with President Reagan)
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To: Edit35

You are correct, however the scriptures clearly tell us that all the world will fight Israel before & during end times & they will prevail of course as Israel will be the only surviving Country (land) all else will be destroyed by the Lord, totally amazing stuff.


176 posted on 03/15/2009 7:10:29 PM PDT by BrianE (The Republican party may not exist 40 years from now-host Fred Flannigan WKRS 1220 am on Oct. of 04)
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To: Hank Kerchief

“(No one bothers to study the history. Man’s manipulations of societies is never good. If the state of Israel lasts 20 years I’ll be surprised. It has nothing to do with war—it’s demographics.)”
Hank

Couln’t agree more. Often considered history of N. Ireland & Isreal. In both cases, native population was forcibly displaced by third parties & the land given to foreigners.


177 posted on 03/15/2009 7:11:37 PM PDT by Bhoy (TEA PARTY ON)
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To: Squidpup

There was no such CIA report, and yet 177 posts arguing with something that does not exist, or else predicting the future with no risks, no money put down. Demographics, blah, blah, blah! Madame Rosa can tell you as much from studying her fish tank!


178 posted on 03/15/2009 7:14:52 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Squidpup

Bible Report: Israel is here to stay FOREVER.


179 posted on 03/15/2009 7:15:32 PM PDT by Jeb21
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To: Squidpup

What does Biblical prophecy have to say about this?

Broadcast the new acronym:

O ne

B ig

A ss

M istake

A merica!


180 posted on 03/15/2009 7:52:43 PM PDT by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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To: Squidpup

I knew it! The CIA is full of political pansy hacks!!


181 posted on 03/15/2009 7:55:51 PM PDT by Ancient Drive (will)
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To: Quix

“ALL those prophecies and their supporting puzzle pieces have been increasingly moving into place exactly, precisely as Scripture predicted 2000 years and longer ago.”

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I would love to have your help with a list of these prophecies from the scriptures and their fulfillment. I am seriously interested.

Thanks.


182 posted on 03/15/2009 8:12:15 PM PDT by GreyMountainReagan (Liberals do not view the book 1984 as a warning but as a instruction manual.)
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To: Squidpup

This will never happen.


183 posted on 03/15/2009 8:16:00 PM PDT by Polarik ("A forgery created to prove a claim repudiates that claim")
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To: Jacquerie

I’d be more worried about God, than History ;)


184 posted on 03/15/2009 8:17:53 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Obamageddon

Glad some other see the hideousness behind the curtain of so much of our age.


185 posted on 03/15/2009 8:24:08 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: GreyMountainReagan

There is a site that lists a 100 or 101 such. I’m sure you can find it.

I have no time to help list such. I think they have been listed on FR a number of times.

I don’t have the links or even any key words or thread titles.

Guess I’m going to have to start saving such things to a Word file.

Sorry.


186 posted on 03/15/2009 8:25:43 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Migraine

To that I recall Isaiah 11:11, a number I always see on my clocks and watches (must be a sign):

And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand the second time to possess the remnant of his people, which shall be left from the Assyrians, and from Egypt, and from Phetros, and from Ethiopia, and from Elam, and from Sennaar, and from Emath, and from the islands of the sea.

Isaiah 37:31 “The surviving remnant of the house of Judah will again take root downward and bear fruit upward.

Isaiah 42:4 “He will not be disheartened or crushed Until He has established justice in the earth; And the coastlands will wait expectantly for His law.”

Isaiah 42:10 Sing to the LORD a new song, Sing His praise from the end of the earth! You who go down to the sea, and all that is in it. You islands, and those who dwell on them.

Isaiah 46:3 “Listen to Me, O house of Jacob, And all the remnant of the house of Israel, You who have been borne by Me from birth And have been carried from the womb;

Isaiah 49:1 Listen to Me, O islands, And pay attention, you peoples from afar. The LORD called Me from the womb; From the body of My mother He named Me.

Isaiah 51:5 “My righteousness is near, My salvation has gone forth, And My arms will judge the peoples; The coastlands will wait for Me, And for My arm they will wait expectantly.

Isaiah 60:9 “Surely the coastlands will wait for Me; And the ships of Tarshish will come first, To bring your sons from afar, Their silver and their gold with them, For the name of the LORD your God, And for the Holy One of Israel because He has glorified you.

Isaiah 66:19 “I will set a sign among them and will send survivors from them to the nations: Tarshish, Put, Lud, Meshech, Rosh, Tubal and Javan, to the distant coastlands that have neither heard My fame nor seen My glory. And they will declare My glory among the nations.

Hosea 11:11 They will come trembling like birds from Egypt And like doves from the land of Assyria; And I will settle them in their houses, declares the LORD.

Micah 7:12 It will be a day when they will come to you From Assyria and the cities of Egypt, From Egypt even to the Euphrates, Even from sea to sea and mountain to mountain.

Zechariah 10:10 “I will bring them back from the land of Egypt And gather them from Assyria; And I will bring them into the land of Gilead and Lebanon Until no room can be found for them. (NASB ©1995)
Jews will not be leavin Israel but streaming into it.


187 posted on 03/15/2009 8:28:26 PM PDT by Polarik ("A forgery created to prove a claim repudiates that claim")
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To: Quix

“There is a site that lists a 100 or 101 such. I’m sure you can find it.”

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I was wondering specifically about the prophesies you were referring to. One hundred is a lot. How about 2 or 3 prophesies? Thanks anyway.


188 posted on 03/15/2009 8:41:03 PM PDT by GreyMountainReagan (Liberals do not view the book 1984 as a warning but as a instruction manual.)
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To: GreyMountainReagan

Which prophecies would you like to know about? Ones about Israels birth as a nation? Ones about the world being against Israel in the End Days? I don’t know what you were asking for first, it wasn’t apparent in your post, but I’m a bit familiar with Bible prophecies, so ask away.


189 posted on 03/15/2009 8:49:22 PM PDT by Jeb21
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To: Jeb21; Quix

Quix stated, “ALL those prophecies and their supporting puzzle pieces have been increasingly moving into place exactly, precisely as Scripture predicted 2000 years and longer ago”

This sounded so confident and detailed that I was curious what the prophecies and supporting puzzle pieces were that Quix was referring to.

I have faith that Christ will return at the Mount of Olives saving Israel from destruction and am aware of those prophesies but I am unfamiliar of the prophecies that state that Israel will not be destroyed (scattered) again. Israel has been destroyed many times. But perhaps Israel could be ‘destroyed’ again and then reformed again as has happened many times previously.

Do you have prophecies that help show that this will be the last time that Israel will be formed. Israel as a nation has been ‘born again’ many times. Is this the last?


190 posted on 03/15/2009 8:58:14 PM PDT by GreyMountainReagan (Liberals do not view the book 1984 as a warning but as a instruction manual.)
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To: FARS

Thanks for the ping!


191 posted on 03/15/2009 9:01:36 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: patriciaruth
...until Armageddan and the Second Coming

Yep

(If you hadn't made the point, I would have...)

192 posted on 03/15/2009 9:03:35 PM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: GreyMountainReagan

1. Israel regathered would become a nation again in a day.

Did—1948.

2. Jerusalem would be a burden around the neck of the whole world. All the nations would gear up to and would attack Israel. Still a-building/in process.

3. Russia, Iran, and some others named would particularly be Israel’s enemies . . . What a surprise . . . been so for a long time. Becoming more so.

4. Israel would find great buried wealth as well as in the Dead Sea. In process . . . initial reports are staggering.

5. Israel would speak the Hebrew language when regathered. No other nation even a fractionally so widely dispersed amongst the nations has EVER done so. Israel did and does.

6. Israel would bless all other nations. Nobel prizes; medical and scientific breakthroughs are vastly disproportionately per capita of population proportion of the world’s population . . . just incredible. There’s no rational explanation for the vastly disproportionate difference.

7. The Mount of Olives will cleave a certain direction leaving a vast valley as describe in Scripture. Several decades ago, Shell Oil geologists discovered it’s all cocked and ready to do just that.

8. Regathered Israel will make the desert bloom again like a rose. Done. Also much reforestation has been accomplished.

9. In the same era . . . knowledge will be vastly increased.

10. —and transportation will be much more rapid over the whole globe.

11. There will be markedly dramatic signs in the heavens.

12. The 3rd Temple will be rebuilt. The components are reportedly all prepared and ready for erection within a few months—some say less—far swifter—from beginning to finish.

13. Certainly the articles and furnishings are made.

14. Several red heifers are in preparation.

15. In the same era . . . a global government will be formed. Virtually achieved. Kissinger, Brezenski and Soros say OThuga is the one to pull it off.

16. The global leader will make a 7 year treaty with Israel that he will break at the half way point when he sets up his image to be worshiped in the Holy of Hollies thereby revealing that he is NOT the Jews long awaited Messiah after all—and they will begin to flee in droves as he slaughters them. The puzzle pieces on this one are increasingly being put in place.

17. There will be a MARK OF THE BEAST WITHOUT WHICH it will be impossible to buy or sell over the whole of the planet. For the first time in 2,000 years since this prophecy was made, it is now possible to do so. Further, the global oligarchy plans just that.

18. God alone will be Israel’s defender, protector and deliverer. This, too, is being set-up as OThuga is her enemy in the role of ruling the land that has been her last and best defender. Suicidal Jews voted him in. Just as they will acclaim the AntiChrist their leader.

That’s about it off the top of my head. That should keep you off the streets for a while, ferreting out the Scripture references to those. Perhaps you’d also be so kind as to figure out a clever way to calculate the odds of all that happening in the same era—say in the same 120 years BY CHANCE.


193 posted on 03/15/2009 9:07:46 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: GreyMountainReagan; Alamo-Girl; airborne; American in Israel; auggy; backhoe; bearsgirl90; ...
OOOOPS. PING TO ABBREVIATED END TIMES, DREAMS, VISIONS, PROPHECY PING LIST

LIST MEMBERS, IF ANY OF Y'ALL HAVE ANY TO ADD, PLEASE DO SO:

1. Israel regathered would become a nation again in a day.

Did--1948.

2. Jerusalem would be a burden around the neck of the whole world. All the nations would gear up to and would attack Israel. Still a-building/in process.

3. Russia, Iran, and some others named would particularly be Israel's enemies . . . What a surprise . . . been so for a long time. Becoming more so.

4. Israel would find great buried wealth as well as in the Dead Sea. In process . . . initial reports are staggering.

5. Israel would speak the Hebrew language when regathered. No other nation even a fractionally so widely dispersed amongst the nations has EVER done so. Israel did and does.

6. Israel would bless all other nations. Nobel prizes; medical and scientific breakthroughs are vastly disproportionately per capita of population proportion of the world's population . . . just incredible. There's no rational explanation for the vastly disproportionate difference.

7. The Mount of Olives will cleave a certain direction leaving a vast valley as describe in Scripture. Several decades ago, Shell Oil geologists discovered it's all cocked and ready to do just that.

8. Regathered Israel will make the desert bloom again like a rose. Done. Also much reforestation has been accomplished.

9. In the same era . . . knowledge will be vastly increased.

10. --and transportation will be much more rapid over the whole globe.

11. There will be markedly dramatic signs in the heavens.

12. The 3rd Temple will be rebuilt. The components are reportedly all prepared and ready for erection within a few months--some say less--far swifter--from beginning to finish.

13. Certainly the articles and furnishings are made.

14. Several red heifers are in preparation.

15. In the same era . . . a global government will be formed. Virtually achieved. Kissinger, Brezenski and Soros say OThuga is the one to pull it off.

16. The global leader will make a 7 year treaty with Israel that he will break at the half way point when he sets up his image to be worshiped in the Holy of Hollies thereby revealing that he is NOT the Jews long awaited Messiah after all--and they will begin to flee in droves as he slaughters them. The puzzle pieces on this one are increasingly being put in place.

17. There will be a MARK OF THE BEAST WITHOUT WHICH it will be impossible to buy or sell over the whole of the planet. For the first time in 2,000 years since this prophecy was made, it is now possible to do so. Further, the global oligarchy plans just that.

18. God alone will be Israel's defender, protector and deliverer. This, too, is being set-up as OThuga is her enemy in the role of ruling the land that has been her last and best defender. Suicidal Jews voted him in. Just as they will acclaim the AntiChrist their leader.

That's about it off the top of my head. That should keep you off the streets for a while, ferreting out the Scripture references to those. Perhaps you'd also be so kind as to figure out a clever way to calculate the odds of all that happening in the same era--say in the same 120 years BY CHANCE.

THANKS.

194 posted on 03/15/2009 9:10:49 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

I am familiar with most of those but to my untrained eye these do no state that this will be the last time that Israel will be gathered.

Thanks for the list, I appreciate it.


195 posted on 03/15/2009 9:11:23 PM PDT by GreyMountainReagan (Liberals do not view the book 1984 as a warning but as a instruction manual.)
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To: GreyMountainReagan

That’s a straw dog.

Israel was destroyed many times BEFORE CHRIST.

ONCE since Christ—as Christ et al predicted.


196 posted on 03/15/2009 9:12:07 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: GreyMountainReagan

I suppose you could insist that it’s an inference.

THIS IS THE ERA THAT IS TO END WITH ARMAGEDDON.

Armageddon is to be followed by a thousand year reign of Christ in perfect peace.

ALL NATIONS in that time period will be REQUIRED to send delegations TO JERUSALEM at the time of the feast of tabernacles/booths OR THEY WILL NOT RECEIVE ANY RAIN.

ALL Nations of the world will be subservient to Israel during that thousand years.

Therefore, during that 1,000 years, ISRAEL WILL NOT BE SCATTERED AGAIN. I suppose it is conceivable at the very end when satan is loosed again for a brief time. But I doubt it even then.

And there’s not much clear and definitive that we can say about the end of the thousand years except that satan is loosed for a time to tempt those born during that time and will then be locked up forever.

And, sometime after that, there will be a new heaven and a new earth.

So, in this closing era of history as we’ve known it—the script does NOT allow for Israel to be rescattered yet again. imho.


197 posted on 03/15/2009 9:18:29 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Revolting cat!

She sure was hot back then! Man, Playboy should have paid her a gazillion. Just one shoot, that is all I wanted...


198 posted on 03/15/2009 9:24:15 PM PDT by Professional
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To: SunkenCiv


199 posted on 03/15/2009 9:42:19 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: GreyMountainReagan

This may be an interesting website for you:

http://www.fulfilledprophecy.com/page/overview/


200 posted on 03/15/2009 9:43:03 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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