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To: ZekeNY
Factually incorrect. A natural born citizen is anyone born within the United States. How do I know? Because I'm a natural born citizen and when I was born neither of my parents were citizens. I've done all the legal footwork on this. It's a fact.

You are absolutely correct. You are a natural born citizen as are my children. We do not have second-class citizens in America.

A citizen is either natural born or naturalized. Arnold Schwarzenegger is naturalized. He cannot be President. You can as can I and as can my children who were born to an immigrant mother.

So many people here are making stuff up because they wish it were true. And they are doing everyone a disservice.

321 posted on 12/04/2008 11:47:12 AM PST by Drew68
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To: Drew68
How many times are you going to accuse 'making things up' without providing examples or defending your ridiculous assertion reagrding 'second class citizens'? Not a single poster has proffered 'second class citizen' yet you keep raising this strawman as if it will sweep away all the opposition to the affrimative action fraud, Barack (or Barry) Hussein (or other) Obama (or Dunham or Soetoro, depending upon what use he can make of whichever name and citizenship).

If it is shown that Obama will not prove his eligibility then he still is not a second class citizen but he is a proven fraud. Go look for scabs to peel at some other website where liberal pukes will give you attention. Stop trying to blur this into a racial issue, you're not fooling as many as you seem to think you can at FR.

322 posted on 12/04/2008 11:56:26 AM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Drew68
Factually incorrect. A natural born citizen is anyone born within the United States. How do I know? Because I'm a natural born citizen and when I was born neither of my parents were citizens. I've done all the legal footwork on this. It's a fact. You are absolutely correct. You are a natural born citizen as are my children. We do not have second-class citizens in America.

I do not agree! There is no such thing as a second class citizen. There are naturalized citizens, US Citizens and natural born citizens.

Naturalized - give up their foreign citizenship
US Citizens - born on US soil with no parent being a citizen, 1 parent being a citizen.
Natural born - born of 2 US citizens

Natural born being the only 2 positions in this country requiring this status.

This is what I've determined - the courts hopefully will clarify and either state this is correct or not. This is how I see it. George Washington for one did not want the President of the United states to have a divided allegiance - it is in many of his writings. Dual citizenship at birth would be a divided allegiance. He would have allegiance to his father which was British citizenship.
326 posted on 12/04/2008 12:00:28 PM PST by jcsjcm (Upholding the Constitution til my last breath)
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To: Drew68
It's not a disservice; it's hilarious.
340 posted on 12/04/2008 12:39:56 PM PST by kenboy
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To: Drew68
"So many people here are making stuff up because they wish it were true. And they are doing everyone a disservice. "

I noticed that, too!

645 posted on 12/05/2008 5:13:45 PM PST by calenel (The Democratic Party is a Criminal Enterprise. It is the Socialist Mafia.)
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