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To: Drew68
Factually incorrect. A natural born citizen is anyone born within the United States. How do I know? Because I'm a natural born citizen and when I was born neither of my parents were citizens. I've done all the legal footwork on this. It's a fact. You are absolutely correct. You are a natural born citizen as are my children. We do not have second-class citizens in America.

I do not agree! There is no such thing as a second class citizen. There are naturalized citizens, US Citizens and natural born citizens.

Naturalized - give up their foreign citizenship
US Citizens - born on US soil with no parent being a citizen, 1 parent being a citizen.
Natural born - born of 2 US citizens

Natural born being the only 2 positions in this country requiring this status.

This is what I've determined - the courts hopefully will clarify and either state this is correct or not. This is how I see it. George Washington for one did not want the President of the United states to have a divided allegiance - it is in many of his writings. Dual citizenship at birth would be a divided allegiance. He would have allegiance to his father which was British citizenship.
326 posted on 12/04/2008 12:00:28 PM PST by jcsjcm (Upholding the Constitution til my last breath)
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To: jcsjcm
Naturalized - give up their foreign citizenship US Citizens - born on US soil with no parent being a citizen, 1 parent being a citizen. Natural born - born of 2 US citizens

Where do you get your definition of natural born from? The constitution never defines the term, and SCOTUS has never ruled on it.

344 posted on 12/04/2008 12:47:40 PM PST by kenboy
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To: jcsjcm
I'm not an Obamacrat, I have a copy of the Constitution in my hand, and I've only gotten this far on this thread, and so far, I've seen only Constitutional distinction regarding citizenship I've seen is 1) born in the U.S. or 2) naturalized in the U.S., with the caveat of being subject to U.S. jurisdiction.

So far, I haven't seen a third category in COTUS or law distinguishing something called "natural born" citizen as opposed to simply born in the U.S.

424 posted on 12/04/2008 3:24:55 PM PST by Jim W N
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To: jcsjcm
"Naturalized - give up their foreign citizenship

US Citizens - born on US soil with no parent being a citizen, 1 parent being a citizen.

Natural born - born of 2 US citizens "

Where is the statute found that makes this distinction? What is the exact definition of 'natural born' and what is the source of that definition?

646 posted on 12/05/2008 5:23:22 PM PST by calenel (The Democratic Party is a Criminal Enterprise. It is the Socialist Mafia.)
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