Something is happening of historic proportions

ID Obama ^ | 14 NOV 2008 | ID Obama

[GOP Poet]

And I thought I would never be able to experience what the ordinary, moral German felt in the mid-1930s. In those times, the savior was a former smooth-talking rabble-rouser from the streets, about whom the average German knew next to nothing. What they did know was that he was associated with groups that shouted, shoved, and pushed around people with whom they disagreed; he edged his way onto the political stage through great oratory and promises. Economic times were tough, people were losing jobs, and he was a great speaker. And he smiled and waved a lot. And people, even newspapers, were afraid to speak out for fear that his “brown shirts” would bully them into submission. And then, he was duly elected to office, a full-throttled economic crisis at hand [the Great Depression]. Slowly but surely he seized the controls of government power, department by department, person by person, bureaucracy by bureaucracy. The kids joined a Youth Movement in his name, where they were taught what to think. How did he get the people on his side? He did it promising jobs to the jobless, money to the moneyless, and goodies for the military-industrial complex. He did it by indoctrinating the children, advocating gun control, health care for all, better wages, better jobs, and promising to re-instill pride once again in the country, across Europe, and across the world.

He did it with a compliant media–did you know that? And he did this all in the name of justice and . . . change. And the people surely got what they voted for.

(Look it up if you think I am exaggerating.)

Read your history books. Many people objected in 1933 and were shouted down, called names, laughed at, and made fun of. When Winston Churchill pointed out the obvious in the late 1930s while seated in the House of Lords in England (he was not yet Prime Minister), he was booed into his seat and called a crazy troublemaker. He was right, though.

Don’t forget that Germany was the most educated, cultured country in Europe. It was full of music, art, museums, hospitals, laboratories, and universities. And in less than six years–a shorter time span than just two terms of the U. S. presidency–it was rounding up its own citizens, killing others, abrogating its laws, turning children against parents, and neighbors against neighbors. All with the best of intentions, of course. The road to Hell is paved with them.

As a practical thinker, one not overly prone to emotional decisions, I have a choice: I can either believe what the objective pieces of evidence tell me (even if they make me cringe with disgust); I can believe what history is shouting to me from across the chasm of seven decades; or I can hope I am wrong by closing my eyes, having another latte, and ignoring what is transpiring around me.

Some people scoff at me, others laugh, or think I am foolish, naive, or both. Perhaps I am. But I have never been afraid to look people in the eye and tell them exactly what I believe–and why I believe it.

I pray I am wrong. I do not think I am.

I couldn't agree more. I pray that I am wrong too. I will work hard to protect the foundation that the founders outlined in the constitution and upholding the laws of the bible. Anything other than that is off course for me politically right now and a waste of my time as those two foundations are being attacked to the core right now and well worth fighting for. Into Action. That is where my concerns goes now. Fight for what is right and good.

[balls]

"If you want to know what’s happening to America, it’s simple: a large percentage of the population is simply irrelevant in today’s world."

So true. Especially us baby boomers!

[RGPII]

Sadly, it calls to mind that other article thread, “Goodbye America, the world’s last hope” (or similar). We’ve just got to buckle down and keep at it.

[quintr]

The only reason they’d keep us around at all is to pay taxes. I mean, they aren’t going to give their own money to each other, are they? I highly doubt it.

[ckilmer]

all the US has to do is cut oil demand by 25% in the next couple years by turning US trucks on the interstates from oil to gas.

That would keep oil prices way down while other kinds of non oil vehicles came onstream in the next couple years.

That would in turn collapse the US trade deficit—which would make a great rolling sea of of higher value dollars abroad which would need to be spent in the USA on one thing or another.

That would in turn enrich the US and the US would in turn buy everyone else’s products.

[Magic Fingers]

Amen.

[widowithfoursons]

Cicero said this in 50BC

[The_Reader_David]

This is one case where I hope Karl Marx turns out to be right. In one of his more obscrure works, The Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte he wrote, “Hegel remarks somewhere that all great, world-historical facts and personages occur, as it were, twice. He has forgotten to add: the first time as tragedy, the second as farce.”

[bellas_sister]

bump for later....

[durasell]

For the same reason that an increasing number of high skill set people I know apply for jobs in england, italy and taiwan — opportunity. Right now the best shot for those kids in your class is in the U.S. In a few years it might be in the UK or netherlands.

[adorno]

We have intentionally dumbed down our schools, ignored our history, and no longer teach our founding documents, why we are exceptional, and why we are worth preserving. Students by and large cannot write, think critically, read, or articulate. Parents are not revolting, teachers are not picketing, school boards continue to back mediocrity.

All of that was by design.

When you have dumb and unthinking masses, they tend to end up backing the ones with the design.

By design, the end result would be to elect those that had the plans. The plan was to elect socialists into congress and the most socialist of them all into the presidency. An intelligent and educated population could never and would never elect the likes of an Obama.

[Wolfhound777]

Whatever...I have no desire to make criminals out of anyone for the purpose of cheap labor. Why don’t you take up futures trading or currency trading and try to match your skills with the true criminals, the Federal Reserve bankers and their congressional lackeys. It’s a lot more fun :-)

[count-your-change]

“That is our money. Yours and mine.”

Oh really? If that's true, can I ask for it back? No. Can I decide what it shall be used for? No. Can I decide what is legal money or tender? No. Can I decide the value of a dollar? No. The design?

So how is it “my” money and not just something I'm forced to accept and use by fiat?

[neutrino]

I think your conclusions are right. Our problem is a slow version of what happened to Germany after WWI. They paid reparations - we, since 1973, have paid out ever more money for imported materials, goods, and oil. Our middle and working classes have been squeezed, and squeezed again. They want change - which they expect to be something better.

We'll get nationalized health care - and the State control that goes with it. We'll get help finding a job - and more control.

In the end, we will be led to slaughter - and we will go willingly, without a word of protest.

[durasell]

Your sarcasm is, at best, childish.

[yankeedame]

After watching the mass hysteria at an Obama rally on TV, I’m convinced that he could get many of his supporters to strap on suicide belts.

What you saw was a carefully, professionally produced, staged, shot, and edited campaign event that were, in truth,basically little more than the tag end(s) of free rock concerts. Those hyperactive 'yoots' were there for the band(s), not Obama, and melted away once he started to go into his speech. Camera angle. Camera angle. Camera angle.