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MO and IN fall
11.05.08 | Perdogg

Posted on 11/04/2008 11:16:58 PM PST by Perdogg

What has happened to America?


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections; US: Indiana; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: bho2008; in2008; mo2008; swingstates
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To: Perdogg

Defrauded. Vote fraud and campaign finance fraud and media fraud and Obama the fraud.


201 posted on 11/05/2008 3:33:43 AM PST by Paul_B
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To: kesg

Sorry, any close election in Missouri will be stolen by the crooks in StLouis.


202 posted on 11/05/2008 4:15:06 AM PST by Rifleman
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To: Perdogg

I warned people early on about Indiana, we lost here in 2006. Once again they used the jobs going overseas argument.

Also, the leftist education of the youth is coming home to roost. Those kids are now voting age and are moving back into Indiana.

I imagine if you add in some vote fraud in urban areas here too, you have a cocktail perfectly mixed for a loss.

Did we all really sit here and think that the indoctrination our kids have gotten at school was never going to play a part in this?


203 posted on 11/05/2008 4:27:51 AM PST by dforest (Is there any good idea out there that Obama doesn't lay claim to anymore?)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

Do you have a tent city down there for some of us so we can join in the succession? LOL


204 posted on 11/05/2008 4:30:03 AM PST by dforest (Is there any good idea out there that Obama doesn't lay claim to anymore?)
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To: The Truth Will Make You Free

Let’s see how proud they are when O-B implements the DRAFT necessary to maintain troop levels when all those currently on active duty decline to re-enlist. They may reap very quickly what they sowed. O-B’s only hope is the economy is so bad, they can’t afford to get out.


205 posted on 11/05/2008 5:04:49 AM PST by Tucson
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To: indylindy

Hey, I’ll start one....


206 posted on 11/05/2008 6:07:12 AM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Tagline scrubbed to prevent invitation to indoctrinization camp)
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To: MarkL

Actually, according to their SOS’s web site, McCain has 49.8% and Obama has 49.2%. Talk about close. Who knows what it will be in the end because they have to count provisional and absentee ballots now.


207 posted on 11/05/2008 6:23:05 AM PST by Anonymous Political Junky
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To: Perdogg

Does anyone else think the large exodus from the coasts has influenced the electoral college?

I’ve seen about a million Californian license plates out here in the past years. That’s got to leave a mark. I’m not Californian-bashing, since I moved out here from CA 6 years ago, too. My family followed me.

Still, there are a lot of people who move from a coastal blue state because conditions there have become intolerable. Then they come to a red state and start electing people who will do the same messed up stuff to their new state.


208 posted on 11/05/2008 6:25:59 AM PST by ReagansShinyHair
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To: goldstategop; All

I wouldn’t go that far. We will be in the woodshed for awhile, but it only took the Dems six years to take back everything.

Back in 2002, we thought the Dems wouldn’t be back in power for ages to come.

Politics changes a lot, and despite demographic changes, most voters are fickle.

We will be back.


209 posted on 11/05/2008 6:29:02 AM PST by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: rwfromkansas

You’re absolutely right.
Mitch Daniels (incumbent Gov) ran monstrously ahead of McCain here in Indiana. And while somewhat of a RINO, the first thing he did after getting elected in 04 was to de-certify all the unions representing state employees.
So they unions were really pushing to get him out.


210 posted on 11/05/2008 6:33:12 AM PST by nascarnation
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To: usshadley
Berkely in a cornfield” Columbia...such a pretentious little sheethole is Columbia...

I live in the Jefferson city area and BOY are you are telling the truth!

211 posted on 11/05/2008 6:33:21 AM PST by painter (If you like $3+/gal, Thank democrats in Congress!)
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To: Azzurri
Obama's huge advantage in resources also played a pivotal role in getting out his vote. And the RNC gave McCain a lot of its resources hurting other Reps down ballot. What really killed us was nominating a self-described maverick as the standard bearer and who actively campaigned against his own party. By doing that he alienated many Reps and hurt Reps down ticket.

Or in some other cases, Reps down ticket outperformed McCain substantially. For example, in 2004 Bush easily won Indiana by 21 points. In 2008 Mitch Daniel won reelection with 58% of the vote or 1,542,371 votes. McCain won 1,329,370 votes or over 200,000 less. As a result, Obama won the state.

212 posted on 11/05/2008 6:35:51 AM PST by kabar
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To: GOP Poet
Ah . . . a writer after my own heart--LOL. Great stuff. Not so great reality though aye?

I'm glad that you enjoyed my turn of phrase. Americans have made their choice, and the weight of Obama's win seems large enough to preclude it having been caused solely by the voter fraud (which ultimately is probably just as well). My state has decided that doctor assisted suicide is "dignified". Once we have government run medical it won't be long before, in order to control skyrocketing costs, that the government will begin to say they will not cover some expensive procedure but they will cover the cost of suicide. Incrementally the liberals are removing any respect for the value of human life. Couple that with the shift away from private property ownership and we're proving Khrushchev prophetic.

On August 24, 1963, Khrushchev himself remarked in his speech in Yugoslavia, "I once said, 'We will bury you,' and I got into trouble with it. Of course we will not bury you with a shovel. Your own working class will bury you,"a reference to the Marxist saying, "The proletariat is the undertaker of capitalism"; a popular articulation of the materialist conception of history as the inevitable progression of class struggle towards communism.

213 posted on 11/05/2008 7:32:14 AM PST by highlander_UW (The only difference between the MSM and the DNC is the MSM sells ad space in their propaganda)
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To: Norman Bates

Yeah if you prefer two Ginsburgs to Roberts and Alito on the bench for the next 3 decades.


214 posted on 11/05/2008 8:36:04 AM PST by donovan16
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To: usmom
Anything less than him handing out free I-phones and plasma tv’s on innauguration day is going to be met with outrage.

Phones and TVs? Not good enough. I want a new car. So, when can I pick up my new taxpayer-funded Mercedes, Barack?

I also believe this ‘test’ that Joe Biden so aptly warned us of will come within days (or even before) his innauguration.

I fully expect a terrorist attack the day after B.O. is sworn in.

215 posted on 11/05/2008 9:03:13 AM PST by Schatze (It's better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.)
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To: highlander_UW
fitting and perfect quote! I have studied Marx and Lenin extensively and and happy when I see someone else has a grasp and understanding exactly of what they both believe and put forth. Although I hooked into it studying Political Economy and history in school, it was mostly put forth by radical profs trying to convert us all. I had the background and good sense to evaluate this from a conservative business stand point as at the time I was a business owner and understood the incredible undermining detriment of Marxist ideals and plans on our country.

With all the college educated people--few have been taught the difference between capitalism, socialism, communism and the growth of each and history of all. This ignorance allows the American people to be sold a bill of goods that is ripe with tyranny and poison. It is time to move forward in a positive and effective fashion to fight this. We can do it--knowledge is power and power is not made clear unless fulfilled in action (including active inaction). It is time to act though. Thank you for your post and thoughtful, intelligent, and at time poetic contribution. :-)

216 posted on 11/05/2008 9:28:17 AM PST by GOP Poet
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
www.texassecede.com
217 posted on 11/05/2008 10:41:20 AM PST by LA Woman3 (Vote. Then pray.)
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To: The Truth Will Make You Free
It's the young and single voters earning less than $15,000 a year.

Yep. I turned on the tv this morning and saw footage of the crowd celebrating in Chicago. Blacks and a LOT of young, college-age kids. Kids that pay no taxes and few bills, mommy and daddy probably still take care of things for them. Ugh.

218 posted on 11/05/2008 12:10:24 PM PST by dougherty (I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free. - Michelangelo)
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To: Tucson

“to maintain troop levels “

What makes you think Obama is interested in maintaining troop levels?


219 posted on 11/05/2008 12:45:01 PM PST by FreedomForce (A conservative 2012---maybe Palin)
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To: GOP Poet
With all the college educated people--few have been taught the difference between capitalism, socialism, communism and the growth of each and history of all. This ignorance allows the American people to be sold a bill of goods that is ripe with tyranny and poison. It is time to move forward in a positive and effective fashion to fight this. We can do it--knowledge is power and power is not made clear unless fulfilled in action (including active inaction). It is time to act though. Thank you for your post and thoughtful, intelligent, and at time poetic contribution. :-)

It's been a pleasure touching on this topic with you. I hope out paths cross again. I read a post earlier today, although forget the author who wrote that conservatives can no longer abdicate the institutions of society that have become instrumental in undermining the nation. Institutions such as education, media and entertainment, for instance have been abused by liberals to produce a society ill equipped to analyze and respond to the lies and ploys that have lead us into socialism.

220 posted on 11/05/2008 8:12:40 PM PST by highlander_UW (The only difference between the MSM and the DNC is the MSM sells ad space in their propaganda)
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To: GerardKempf

I’ve been reading all your comments, and you seem a little fishy to me. This was one of the least religious campaigns I can remember, plus most of the lost seats were moderates. The gay marriage votes passed even in Liberal California.

I’m not a bible thumper, but the evidence seems to show the opposite of what you are saying.


221 posted on 11/05/2008 10:17:52 PM PST by Dat
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To: Dat

Dat - there are Republicans in this country that don’t espouse half of the far right agenda that is often cast on the board. As a long time registered member and as an American, I don’t have to agree with everyone on the board. To summarize, I am proud of my McCain-Palin vote. I do think that a lot of center-right Republicans did not vote this year because some of their concerns with Sarah. Still the economy factor would have prevented nearly any Republican from winning). Our party is in a state of shock right now and it’s the paranoia and the infighting that will only divide this party further.


222 posted on 11/05/2008 10:29:59 PM PST by GerardKempf (Let's Get Over This)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

I’m so damned glad I escaped the USA under the Clinton years.


223 posted on 11/05/2008 10:32:13 PM PST by lefty-lie-spy (Stay metal. For the Horde \m/("_")\m/)
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To: kesg; chickpundit; Perdogg

Unless AP knows something about absentee or early voting (if they even have it in MO).....


Missouri has absentee voting only, no early voting.

Missouri did not fall to Obama. McCain by nearly 6,000 votes. Absentee ballots not yet counted that I know of.

Missouri, the bellwether, backed the loser. What happened?
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/55406.html


224 posted on 11/06/2008 4:00:31 PM PST by barker (Does Sarah rock? You betcha.)
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To: barker

That’s good news :) I know it won’t change anything, but it makes me feel better. I believe Sarah delivered Missouri.


225 posted on 11/06/2008 4:05:05 PM PST by chickpundit (Palin '12)
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To: chickpundit
My Missouri county voted for McCain over Obama 2 to 1. :-)

(I really wonder just how honest this election was.) :-(

226 posted on 11/06/2008 4:09:27 PM PST by kaylar
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To: barker

We showed up early (Oct 25th) at the Pettis (MO) county court house and voted absentee for McCain, because we were afraid we might be trapped out of town on November 4th. We weren’t , but we wanted to be sure....Our ballots were filled in by hand, placed in a sealed envelope, and given to the clerk-presumably, they were counted after the 11/04 votes were cast.


227 posted on 11/06/2008 4:21:28 PM PST by kaylar
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To: Perdogg

I thought we are on pace to win MO?


228 posted on 11/06/2008 4:22:33 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

I posted this election night after AP called MO for Obama.


229 posted on 11/06/2008 4:28:13 PM PST by Perdogg (01-20-2013)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Mo won by McCain’t.


230 posted on 11/06/2008 4:28:51 PM PST by Big Giant Head (I should change my tagline to "Big Giant penguin on my Head")
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To: kaylar

Unfortunately I live in Jackson County (Kansas City area) so I knew how my county was going to go.

Yesterday at work one woman was so happy Obama won and she had voted for him. I asked her why she voted for him and her answer was right out of the Kool-Aide Drinkers Handbook.

He’s so handsome (gag), he speaks well, he’s different, he has good ideas, we need change, McCain would be more of Bush. Pure vomit material.

Told her I’d check back with her in six months and see if she feels the same. Can’t afford to get fired so couldn’t tell her what I really felt.


231 posted on 11/06/2008 4:33:05 PM PST by barker (Does Sarah rock? You betcha.)
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To: barker
Not only will BHO NEVER be my president-he is a third rate affirmative action thug and a probable beneficiary of election fraud-but I will never regard people who voted for Obama as anything but my enemies.( Yes, I mean that .) Some are "merely" stupid , ignorant, and lazy (they always vote democratic, and so didn't bother to investigate the thug's own words and writings) and others are downright evil (the racial payback voters), but they are all my enemy...because they have (almost certainly) destroyed the USA. Hopefully I am a false prophet yet again-I predicted and truly thought McPalin would win by 3% or so-but between the stated polices of BHO and our (overseas) enemies' reactions to his election.....it ain't looking good.

I always thought it strange that counties in Mo go Johnson Co., Mo...Jackson Co, MO...Johnson Co, KS. I asked a Hi Po once if that caused confusion and he said that yes, they would sometimes have transmission overlap and not be sure just *WHICH* county was being referred to.

232 posted on 11/06/2008 4:41:42 PM PST by kaylar
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To: kaylar

My mother voted absentee also because she is getting very frail. Was afraid she wouldn’t be able to go in person.

Didn’t discuss this election with much of my family because they’re almost all libs. They all loved Clinton.

How did a nice person like me end up in a family of libs? :-)


233 posted on 11/06/2008 4:41:46 PM PST by barker (Does Sarah rock? You betcha.)
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To: barker
So you're the token right-winger in your Family?

I'm so sorry.
234 posted on 11/06/2008 4:43:32 PM PST by stentorian conservative
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To: barker

That was probably wise :-D.(it’s at least a little comfort to live in a town that voted overwhelmingly for McPalin, AND to have a family that’s overwhelmingly conservative. I don’t think anyone voted for the fraud, and if they did, they did so surreptitiously.


235 posted on 11/06/2008 4:45:50 PM PST by kaylar
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To: barker

My father saw McCain on CSPAN in 2002 and wrote him a letter saying he would never vote for him.

My father also grew to dislike Bush before it was fashionable to dislike Bush, because he thought Bush as “kiss ass”.

I miss my father dearly.


236 posted on 11/06/2008 4:49:04 PM PST by Perdogg (01-20-2013)
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To: princeofdarkness

it took me a couple days to recover from the BIG dissappointment I have in some of my fellow Americans who voted in a marxist.


237 posted on 11/09/2008 5:45:28 PM PST by machogirl (when the call comes at 3:00 am, Bill Ayers answers the phone)
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