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Was McCain the stinky old fish?
nationalreview ^ | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 09/09/2008 6:43:30 PM PDT by flyfree

In all the furor over the Obama "pig" quote, commentators forgot to examine his entire attack:

"You can put lipstick on a pig. "It's still a pig."

"You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called change. It's still gonna stink."

When read in the entire context you can see what he seems to mean with his dual animate male/female references and why he probably evoked two metaphors: most would think that Obama is talking about both on the ticket and his anger how each has expropriated his change motif.

So in that sense he appears both to insult the 72-year old McCain as the "old fish" that is still going to "stink", and to refer to Palin, who had famously evoked the metaphor of lipstick in a nationally televised address, as still the pig despite the lipstick.

The fact that he used two metaphors to attack the two, and used expressions referring both to age and Palin's recent use of "lipstick" don't seem to be accidents and that's why the cooing crowd got the old fish=McCain;lipsticked pig=Palin immediately.

I'll leave it to others to deconstruct the historical use of pig as a sexist term in the recent climate of generic attacks on Sarah Palin.

PS. The VP nominee was just announced and already Biden has called her "good looking" and now “a step back for women”; most know what he intended, but like most Bidenisms they come out wrongly and confirm a popular perception that he suffers from logorhhea and that there is a different standard of reference applied to Palin due to her sex.

Someone in the campaign has got to manage the ex tempore carelessness.


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: fish; lipstick; mccainpalin; obama; obamabiden; pig; vdh
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To: gusopol3

I agree with your earlier comment about McCain taking it and beating them over the head with it. It is everybody else sitting around saying how dare he say such things that bothers me.


61 posted on 09/09/2008 7:26:27 PM PDT by Just Another Lurker (I'll go back to sitting in my corner now)
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To: Just Another Lurker
McCain is running such a gentlemanly and civil campaign,,,,that he refuses to allow his supporters to even use the "H" word,,,,(shhhh,,,,Hussein).

And Hussein plays hardball, with vicious, insulting, Chicago-style GUTTER, POLITICS OF PERSONAL DESTRUCTION!!

Does anyone think the MSM will notice this difference? I'm taking bets.

62 posted on 09/09/2008 7:29:28 PM PDT by stockstrader (CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN--a ticket with 2 northern liberal lawyer career bureaucrats/s)
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To: flyfree

interesting to see how the Hillary supporters are taking this:

http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/


63 posted on 09/09/2008 7:35:25 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: ladyjane
His only possible recourse is to claim it was a reference to the "barracuda" in Sarah Barracuda, and then it will just seem lame.

Everybody knows what was said. I think the state of mind of the speaker should be of concern to even Bob Beckel!

64 posted on 09/09/2008 7:38:33 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
Sarah Barracuda Palin

I wondered who would be first to close that circle!

65 posted on 09/09/2008 7:38:49 PM PDT by alley cat
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To: alley cat
It's obvious ~ my first post, several threads back, pointed to the DOUBLE insult to Sarah Palin.

Obama has nothing else on his mind ~ a woman who can hunt, ski, snowshoe, dress and slaughter a moose, have 5 babies, be Governor and also marry one of the most macho guys on the planet ~ and he's sitting there feeling terribly inadequate, as well he should!

66 posted on 09/09/2008 7:42:35 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
This is not just a sexist slur (although that's bad enough). See my Post #43

Its also a RACIST slur! Jeremiah Wright anyone???? It has the same equivalence as a white person calling a black person a nigger. Imagine the outcry if McCain did this! I can't shout this from the rooftops loud enough!!!!!!!

67 posted on 09/09/2008 7:44:19 PM PDT by conservativegramma
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To: winner3000

I can’t wait for Rudy to hit the campaign trail. Obama’s gonna have an ***hole you can drive a truck through.


68 posted on 09/09/2008 7:45:09 PM PDT by gotribe (The right pick!)
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To: alley cat
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2078524/posts?page=32#32

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2078524/posts?page=44#44

69 posted on 09/09/2008 7:45:16 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: flyfree

You can elect a Marxist to the Senate, but he’s still a Marxist.


70 posted on 09/09/2008 7:52:19 PM PDT by Wil H
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To: Pharmer
A blind man walks by a fish stand and goes “Good morning ladies!

Damn...I just spilled half of my favored beer! BTW how is the tuna fishing now-a days.

71 posted on 09/09/2008 7:53:00 PM PDT by danmar (Tomorrow's life is too late. Live today!)
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To: flyfree

Out of the depths of an evil heart one’s mouth speaks.


72 posted on 09/09/2008 7:54:26 PM PDT by pray4liberty (Stand up and pray up!)
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To: flyfree

Anyone know how to write a virus that will disable teleprompters? Imagine the video footage after that. /grin


73 posted on 09/09/2008 7:58:25 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: flyfree

“You can put hair plugs on a Biden, but it’s still a Biden!


74 posted on 09/09/2008 8:04:39 PM PDT by Wil H
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To: flyfree

Me thinks Obama was referring to his own wife!!


75 posted on 09/09/2008 8:15:07 PM PDT by kenmcg
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To: flyfree
Capatalist Pigs for McCain/Palin

Sexist Pigs for 0bama.


76 posted on 09/09/2008 8:16:00 PM PDT by smokingfrog (He that lives upon hope will die fasting. - Ben Franklin)
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To: flyfree

Mr. Palin should challenge the commie punk to a dual for slandering his wife. It’s happened before.


77 posted on 09/09/2008 8:20:22 PM PDT by kenmcg
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To: gusopol3; All
considering the political hay BO’s campaign made out of Toon’s “fairy tale” comment, they are whistling into the wind if they don’t expect to have this hung around their necks. McCain needs to pick it up and club him with the fish comment, of course with good humor, although the fish may be the barracuda.

Ok, I have been reading and waiting for the obvious word to crop up re: the fish comment. Barracuda is the magic word. Because Sarah is called the Barracuda I feel certain both of his remarks were aimed at her, not one at her and one at McCain. Just my two cents worth and wondering why no one else sees this.

78 posted on 09/09/2008 8:33:52 PM PDT by calex59
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To: calex59

OMG........you are RIGHT! yeowwwwwwwwww


79 posted on 09/09/2008 8:34:36 PM PDT by tioga (McPalin - 2008)
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To: kenmcg
"Mr. Palin should challenge the commie punk to a dual..."

Dual carbs? Dual exhaust?

Duel?

80 posted on 09/09/2008 8:34:45 PM PDT by editor-surveyor ( If Obama had Palin's resume and experience Obama would be qualified to be VP too.)
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