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1 posted on 08/27/2008 2:56:44 PM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill; jimrob; Calpernia; AuntB

If this is true, let’s just bury the GOP in the litterbox with the rest of the catsh*t.


2 posted on 08/27/2008 3:00:09 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: tobyhill

Well if it was the platform I was voting for, what’s the point?


3 posted on 08/27/2008 3:02:32 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Voting Conservative isn't for the faint of heart.)
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To: tobyhill
Neato. A party that stands for nothing. Why are we supposed to be voting GOP again ?
4 posted on 08/27/2008 3:03:13 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: tobyhill

to be honest i think drilling in the arctic wildlife reserve is a stupid idea. there are plenty of other places to drill before we need to go up there.


7 posted on 08/27/2008 3:06:53 PM PDT by minus_273
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To: tobyhill

Platforms are meaningless.

I have no doubt what an Obama Presidency would do to these issues, as well as hundreds of others.

Literally, thousands and thousands of lives are at stake. Bringing up the “platform” is nearly absurd.

Entertaining notions that Obama would “bring conservatives together” or otherwise strengthen the conservative movement in any way is even more absurd.


8 posted on 08/27/2008 3:07:13 PM PDT by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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To: tobyhill

It’s the GOP’s election to lose. Living up to the name McLame.


9 posted on 08/27/2008 3:08:36 PM PDT by itsthejourney
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To: tobyhill
once again it's time to light up the Washington DC keyboard
10 posted on 08/27/2008 3:08:40 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: tobyhill
Republicans are putting John McCain's campaign priorities above some of their pet issues

The story's lead is rather misleading. Read the whole thing. It's not bad, actually. Border fence, English the official U.S. language. No assertion of man causing global warming. Emphasizes that environmental concerns can't be used to try to change Americans' way of life.

Further down, you read that the platform draft didn't have a lot of McCain's pet opinions in it, either. The document is just a guideline in any case, but it's tougher than most GOP platforms I've seen described.

14 posted on 08/27/2008 3:13:42 PM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: tobyhill
GOP platform backs off pet issues to help McCain

Why not? McCain will "reach across the aisle"TM and pick up his copy of the Democrat platform anyway.
16 posted on 08/27/2008 3:17:36 PM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: tobyhill

Odd . . .

I was under the impression that the GOP’s Platform is a bottom up agenda. That is, resolutions are drafted at the BPOU level and passed along upward. I have been part of the process at the county and state level and assumed that the national agenda reflected the will of Party activists from every state. In this way, goals are truly those of the people.

RAT’s OTOH, set their agenda from the top down . . .

If this report is true, then the Pubbies have left me and the tenets of the GOP behind. Looks like I’ll need to find new company.


18 posted on 08/27/2008 3:18:45 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth
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To: tobyhill; VeniVidiVici; I still care; mnehrling

I keep sending the below letter anytime I receive a request from the GOP or McCain staff.

I do not accept your invitation to join the political junkies who find compromise of conservative principles a way to office. In general saying, “Vote for us. We are just as good as the Democrats” will not work.

Besides John McCain’s problems with abortion, granting amnesty to illegal aliens and restricting freedom of speech, he is severely deficient in the areas of national security and integrity.

Politics is the art of compromise and leadership is the art of principle. Lincoln used superb political skills to implement some of the most cogent and insightful principles to guide this nation. McCain has used political skills to implement compromises consistent with increasing personal acclaim among liberal media and politicians.

The former is dead and the latter is alive, but dead to principles unrelated to his immediate personal advancement. Since leadership is absent from the Democrat and Republican Parties, each individual must make a way to manage commitment to principle and political party affiliation. Each individual must answer questions as to what extent, under what circumstances and when, if ever, do you forsake conservative principles to align with an enemy of your beliefs against a greater enemy of your beliefs? People should not delude themselves into thinking they are making a morally or ethically supportable choice when such weighty utilitarian and cynical issues dominate.

John McCain lacks leadership for the War on Terror. His leadership codified the Army interrogation manual making terrorists legal combatants. His leadership granted terrorists American citizenship rights under Fifth, Eighth and Fourteenth Amendments. He thereby ensures information vital to defeat terrorists remains sacred and unobtainable. Terrorists are unresponsive to direct questioning and psychological gambits. Therefore, interrogators need all stress and coercion techniques our military encounters in survival schools. McCain embraces liberal orthodoxy considering those methods torture, but his searing experiences call forth contrary insights he must suppress.

McCain especially understands from the Geneva Conventions terrorists are not insurgents or freedom fighters; when captured, certainly not prisoners of war. They are not armed forces, militias, or volunteer corps of any country or authority. These killers are not members of organized resistance movements carrying arms openly. They have no distinctive identifier. Terrorists cannot even qualify as spies or saboteurs destroying infrastructure required to support military operations. McCain understands Geneva Conventions intended to isolate such forces, provide them no protections, and allow destruction with any overwhelming furies needed to crush their abominations. Knowing these factors he has promised to close Guantanamo Bay, inviting terrorists into our legal system. He has decided to accommodate extraordinarily savage behavior, which checkmates national laws intended to manage simple murder and kidnapping, and renders Posse Comitatus a crumbling deception.

McCain especially appreciates from our Constitution that laws guaranteeing civil liberties presuppose operation within an invincible society. He more than most understands Alexander Hamilton’s words that devastating, unforeseeable perils must lead deliberations. The Federal government’s three branches primary responsibility is to pursue Hamilton’s admonition that powers exist without limitation; providing capabilities thwarting dangers as well as repelling attacks. McCain understands powerful warfare capabilities require potent intelligence acquisition and exploitation before and throughout campaigns.

The framers of our Constitution and the Geneva Conventions held powerful positions throughout the darkest times of our country and the world. They were our Founding Fathers, and parents and grandparents of the Greatest Generation. Their words expressed durable morality earned in our fight for freedom, and against the ultimate bloody deluge of the 20th century. These first generations expressed principles derived from confronting shattering tragedies, and earning peace through victory. John McCain’s actions are particularly reprehensible because he turns a blind eye to the council of these people.

McCain continually seeks popular advancement by placating those coveting luxurious morality requiring shelter from hard choices and danger awareness. His crime is repudiating military and intelligence professionals facing hard choices when confronting shrewd, ruthless enemies obscured behind frightening uncertainties.

John McCain succumbed to the terrible addiction of political power. The same addiction expressed itself differently in fellow Navy officer Randy Cunningham, who was the Navy’s first Vietnam ace. Over the decades the honor and moral authority of both were gradually traded away for influence in the political arena. To me McCain is like a cadaver prepared for viewing. The removal of blood and organs equates to the trading away of honor and moral authority. The reputation that remains is like the cosmetics applied for viewing the corpse at the funeral. It is easy for anyone to get onto the same sort of gently downward sloping path. The final result is tragic, but we should not suffer such a pathetic and contemptible modern day Macbeth or Hamlet as President.


23 posted on 08/27/2008 3:23:56 PM PDT by Retain Mike
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To: tobyhill

The Grand Old Politburo has spoken comrades.

OBEY


31 posted on 08/27/2008 3:36:25 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Voting Conservative isn't for the faint of heart.)
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To: tobyhill
Drilling is the main road to a victory for them. Looks like the idiots are going to throw away their only advantage.

It's almost comical.
32 posted on 08/27/2008 3:38:28 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: tobyhill
Ladies and Gentlemen. Welcome to the Greatest Show under the Big Tent. And now for the coming main attraction. Master Elephant Trainer John McCain will preform an amazing feat that has never been attempted. He will on Tuesday November 4 make an Elephant roll over and play dead before his cheering audience of his loyal friends The Rockefeller Republicans & the Democratic Party.

Buy your tickets now for this spectacular Freak Show by placing a donation to the RNC The RINO's National Committee. It promises to be far greater than previous freak shows such as the 1976 Ford campaign or the 1996 Bob Dole campaign. Buy your straight party tickets now in advance at your nearest Democratic or Republican local headquarters.

33 posted on 08/27/2008 3:38:57 PM PDT by cva66snipe ($.01 The current difference between the DEM's and GOP as well as their combined worth to this nation)
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To: tobyhill
God Almighty. So my choices are...

1.) A Commie

2.) A Socialist

3.) A guy who works with the freaking ACLU.

How the Hell did it come to this?! Good Lord, this is depressing.

39 posted on 08/27/2008 4:05:55 PM PDT by GeorgeBerryman
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To: tobyhill

41 posted on 08/27/2008 4:07:04 PM PDT by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts.....)
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To: tobyhill

This is one of the many reasons my tagline’s been the same for many months.


64 posted on 08/27/2008 4:43:41 PM PDT by hunter112 (The 'straight talk express' gets the straight finger express from me.)
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To: tobyhill

Oh McCain.....You've done it again!!!

65 posted on 08/27/2008 5:35:29 PM PDT by Notary Sojac (America's never won a "war" unless the enemy was named using a proper noun.)
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To: tobyhill
This should not come as a surprise to anyone. The GOP jettisoned all of its principles and nominated John McCain. Obviously, the platform is going to reflect the new principle-challenged party.
71 posted on 08/27/2008 8:06:09 PM PDT by Spiff
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To: tobyhill
These principles and issues are too big to compromise on. Leave them in the platform. Sticking to principles should not hurt McCain.
77 posted on 08/28/2008 7:51:26 AM PDT by Phemone
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