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Michael Barone: 'Facts' Are Changing
NY Sun ^ | June 23, 2008 | MICHAEL BARONE

Posted on 06/25/2008 3:39:26 PM PDT by neverdem

As we enter the second half of the campaign year, facts are undermining the Democratic narrative that has dominated our politics since about the time Hurricane Katrina rolled into the Gulf coast — most importantly, the facts about Iraq.

During the Democratic primary season, all the party's candidates veered hardly a jot or title from the narrative that helped the Democrats sweep the November 2006 elections. Iraq is spiraling into civil war, we invaded unwisely and have botched things ever since, no good outcome is possible, and it is time to get out of there as fast as we can...

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And the fact of $4 gasoline has undermined the narrative that alternative forms of energy can painlessly supply our needs. Public opinion has switched sharply and now favors drilling offshore and, by inference, in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. Democrats are scrambling to argue that drilling wouldn't make any difference — and that anyway the oil companies aren't drilling enough on federal land they currently lease.

All of this matters because the rejection of the Republicans in the 2006 elections was a verdict on competence more than ideology. The Republicans seemed incompetent at relieving victims of Katrina, producing success in Iraq and even policing the House page programs. The Democrats could not do worse and might do better. But in the 19 months since November 2006, some important facts have changed.

If Mr. Bush was wrong about the surge from summer 2003 to January 2007, Mr.Obama has been wrong about it from January 2007 to today. Mr. McCain seems to have been right on it all along. When asked why he changed his position on an issue, John Maynard Keynes said: "When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?" What say you, Senator Obama?

(Excerpt) Read more at nysun.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; barone; energy; gasoline; iraq; obama
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Looks like the marxists have left Obama holding the bag, a bag that stinks.
1 posted on 06/25/2008 3:39:26 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

the question is whether it’s too late. If people have already made up their minds, the facts won’t matter much.


2 posted on 06/25/2008 3:42:21 PM PDT by kms61
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To: kms61

That is an excellent question... how many have made up their minds and how many are not going to put any thought into it at all and vote for whom ever the MSM tells them to vote for


3 posted on 06/25/2008 3:48:24 PM PDT by Americanwolf (Sgt. Gene Clark... Returned to American soil after 58 years... bring 'em all home POW/MIA)
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To: neverdem
Despite years of debate, facts and enthusiasm, domestically, the good guys are losing on all issues. In Iraq the the good guys are prevailing. What's different?

4 posted on 06/25/2008 3:49:44 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: kms61

America does not make up its mind about candidates in June. About 30-40% don’t even pay attention until after the convention, in my opinion.


5 posted on 06/25/2008 3:49:54 PM PDT by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts soooo good!)
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To: Truth is a Weapon

“About 30-40% don’t even pay attention until after the convention, in my opinion.”

Wait. There’s a convention?


6 posted on 06/25/2008 3:59:02 PM PDT by toddlintown (Morons; all of 'em.)
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To: neverdem

How many like paying $5/gal and know that Bush has been calling for Drilling for 8 years. Black Whiteguilt Oblack is over a Barrel.

Pray for W and Our Troops


7 posted on 06/25/2008 4:01:02 PM PDT by bray (Drill Congress!!!)
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To: kms61
Most polling shows about 15% undecided with regards to Mccain-Obama. That's a large enough group to swing this either way. Personally I think Obama has peaked, and the longer he tows the lefty line and opposes drilling, the more he'll lose support. Who'd ever thunk that high gas prices could possibly benefit the GOP and McCain, in this political climate?? The GOP has found luck they don't deserve...They better not squander what they inadvertently stepped in.
8 posted on 06/25/2008 4:02:16 PM PDT by skully (The Demoplubican party is killing this country...We need a 2 party system.)
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To: neverdem

The claim the oil companies are deliberately not drilling their leases where there is oil is one of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard from the stupid party. I guess they believe it really is a P.T. Barnum country. A sucker born every minute.


9 posted on 06/25/2008 4:04:43 PM PDT by colorado tanker (Number nine, number nine, number nine . . .)
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To: skully

Obama: massive empty suit. He’ll still get 98% of the black vote, sadly.

the GOP would be wise to find some respectable black conservatives and use them in an advertising blitz: “You can be black and vote for McCain”....


10 posted on 06/25/2008 4:14:25 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (Just say NObama!)
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To: Americanwolf
how many have made up their minds and how many are not going to put any thought into it at all and vote for whom ever the MSM tells them to vote for

Well, consider that everyone who intends to vote for Obama now has reached that decision without the benefit of actual thought, so why would we expect them to start thinking now, just because the facts have changed? The facts never made a difference to them before.

11 posted on 06/25/2008 4:15:55 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: I see my hands
What's different?

Gasoline over $4 per gallon and the effect of subsidized, corn derived ethanol on other food price increases

12 posted on 06/25/2008 4:17:31 PM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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To: colorado tanker
I guess they believe it really is a P.T. Barnum country.

Their henchmen in the NEA have devoted the last forty years to seeing to it. The attack on learning by the education industry has not been accidental, nor has it been uncoordinated with other assaults on the infrastucture of the body politic.

13 posted on 06/25/2008 4:19:13 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: neverdem
Either way, McCain or Obamination, the situation on the ground probably does not change in the next 6 months. The only exception would be war with Iran (50/50) or a full scale war with Israel/Palis (it needs to be REAL big). Both of those help McCain.

So now liberals will need to defend their crazy ideas like no drilling/building refineries, raise taxes, socialized medicine and cut-and-run in Iraq. If McCain plays his cards right, he can win it.

That is a big if ....

McCain is better for everyone than Obamination.

schu

14 posted on 06/25/2008 4:26:35 PM PDT by schu
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To: neverdem


The all knowing, all seeing political prediction skill of the Obamassiah.
15 posted on 06/25/2008 4:27:32 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: kms61; neverdem
the question is whether it’s too late. If people have already made up their minds, the facts won’t matter much.

By election day, oil could be $200 per bbl and gasoline could be $6 per gallon.

16 posted on 06/25/2008 4:52:12 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Drill Here. Drill Now. Pay Less.)
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To: kms61; jveritas; Allegra
the question is whether it’s too late. If people have already made up their minds, the facts won’t matter much.

You have to do something powerful or dramatic to get them to take a new look at fresh facts. I think if McCain would campaign in Iraq for weeks leading up to the GOP nomination, it would be unique, daring, and too hard to ignore. He would force news agencies to report on it. Remember, every news agency in the english speaking world has a correspondent assigned to McCain 24/7/365. They follow him on a plane everywhere he goes. They have to file at least one report every day. Drag their sorry asses to Baghdad, or Ramadi, and every day highlight your greatest asset: competence, consistency, and steadfastness on the war on terror. Each day you also highlight Obama's weaknesses: naivete, wrongheadedness, and cut-and-run tendencies and outright policy. At each stop mention that Obama would have left these poor souls to the tender mercies of al Qaeda, and imagine what an al Qaeda controlled Iraq would mean to oil markets (e.g. the gas pump) right now? At each stop he could also contrast a little with the unpopular Bush by saying that all along he was for more boots on the ground up front which, ostensibly, might mean we would be further along than we are (I would argue that point, but the sheep would buy it).

17 posted on 06/25/2008 4:57:24 PM PDT by Tennessean4Bush (An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds. A pessimist fears this is true.)
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To: kms61; jveritas; Allegra

The other thing this highlights is McCain’s courage and maverick tendencies: it makes this a race between Teddy Roosevelt and Chamberlain (or Elmer Gantry). My money would be on Roosevelt, wouldn’t yours?


18 posted on 06/25/2008 5:03:05 PM PDT by Tennessean4Bush (An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds. A pessimist fears this is true.)
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To: neverdem

i disagree with his rant that the “republicans seemed incompetent relieving the victims of katrina”.

the republicans did not “seem” “incompetent” in florida or iowa

because those two states were more prepared and responsible for themselves.

the media used katrina and the race issue in n’olans.

none of the media blamed mayor ray nagin.


19 posted on 06/25/2008 5:05:31 PM PDT by ken21 ( people die + you never hear from them again.)
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To: colorado tanker
The claim the oil companies are deliberately not drilling their leases where there is oil is one of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard from the stupid party. I guess they believe it really is a P.T. Barnum country. A sucker born every minute.

Oil companies spend more on taxes than on oil supply development

Weekly Supply Estimates (Stocks in Thousand Barrels, All Other Volumes in Thousand Barrels per Day)

Check Percent Operable Utilization. It appears we are near the average after viewing the history. Scroll down to gasoline imports. If we were pumping new oil, I don't think we can refine much more of it. We haven't built a new refinery in over 30 years.

20 posted on 06/25/2008 5:28:20 PM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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