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ALAN KEYES FOR PRESIDENT: McCain sees nuclear as part of long-term answer [to oil dependence]
nuclear.com ^ | April 5, 2008 | Steve Schulin

Posted on 04/05/2008 6:08:44 PM PDT by Steve Schulin

Presidential candidate Sen. John McCain was interviewed tonight by Greta van Susteren for her Fox News Channel show, "On The Record". She asked him what he can do, short-term and long-term, about rising gasoline prices. There's not much that can be done short-term, he said, because we're too dependent on foreign oil. But we can, in the not-too-long-term, develop hybrid cars, and develop a battery that will take a car 100 miles. "We can reemphasize and dramatically increase nuclear power", he added. "We can do so many things in alternate energy to eliminate our dependence on foreign oil."

COMMENT: Nuclear.com is delighted that nuclear power is held in such high regard by the presumptive nominee of the Republicans. Your humble editor doesn't find this one important issue enough to warrant voting for the man, and you can read more about that in the coming months at nuclear.com's political activism site of choice: Steve Schulin's ConstitutionPartyMD.org. Yes, I've switched my voter registration from Republican to Constitution Party. My goal is to help Alan Keyes -- the candidate who has best represented my views on the wide range of important issues over the past twenty-some years -- win the Constitution Party nomination, get high enough poll numbers to be included in the national presidential debates, get on the ballots in as many states as possible, and win the election. I urge all of you, dear readers, to help in these matters. I hear that C-Span may cover the Constitution Party convention, April 23-26. I'll be there in Kansas City, perhaps as a voting delegate from my state, Maryland. If you see a fellow with sign that proclaims "I'm pro-nuclear because I'm pro-life", that'll probably be me. Please let C-Span know that you'd like to see the convention on TV, gavel-to-gavel. And please feel welcome to call me at 240-751-7286 or email me at steve.schulin@nuclear.com for other ideas on how to help.
[Transcript of interview: "John McCain Goes 'On the Record'", FOXNews, April 4, 2008]


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: energy; keyes; mccain; nuclear
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1 posted on 04/05/2008 6:08:45 PM PDT by Steve Schulin
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To: Steve Schulin

Maybe there is hope for McCain yet.


2 posted on 04/05/2008 6:10:36 PM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: Steve Schulin

A vote for Ambassador Alan Keyes is a vote for Senator Barack Hussein Obama, no matter how you slice it.


3 posted on 04/05/2008 6:12:04 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Knowledge for Battle!)
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To: Steve Schulin

Keyes couldn’t beat Obama in Illinois, so I doubt he can beat him and McCain in the GE.


4 posted on 04/05/2008 6:19:45 PM PDT by Dawnsblood
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

For VP even?


5 posted on 04/05/2008 6:20:24 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: All
ALAN KEYS... Hmm... not a bad idea at all... it will satisfy my desire to vote - since I actully like voting, and have not missed one chance yet! :)

Besides, since blacks since to in vogue of late :) we also have our "own" blacks, and Alen is a good one!

It is sad that good core politicians like Alan or Duncan get ignored in favor of charlatans and snake oil salesmen to a degree... AND by their own people! - the so called 'conservatives.' - very perplexing to me ?????? :)

6 posted on 04/05/2008 6:23:31 PM PDT by ElPatriota (Duncan Hunter 08 -- I am proud to support this man for my president and may be Huck?.. Naah :))
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To: Steve Schulin

He’s right.


7 posted on 04/05/2008 6:24:34 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Steve Schulin
"....what he can do, short-term and long-term, about rising gasoline prices.

Elect ME President and I'll tell ya how!

8 posted on 04/05/2008 6:25:43 PM PDT by FixitGuy (By their fruits shall ye know them!)
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To: Steve Schulin

How many votes nationally did the CP get in 2004? To expect a perpetual loser like Keyes to turn that around is laughable at best.......


9 posted on 04/05/2008 6:28:08 PM PDT by deport ( -- Cue Spooky Music --)
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To: Steve Schulin

OY! a nuke powered car?????

“We can reemphasize and dramatically increase nuclear power”, he added. “We can do so many things in alternate energy to eliminate our dependence on foreign oil.”

Oil is used to generate a tiny fraction of our power - and most all of that is heavy oil or coke.

Hello? John? (tap, tap, tap) Is thing on?

Nuke power replaces coal. Nothing to do with oil based transportation....

And the one thing the US has an abundance of is (wait for it) COAL.


10 posted on 04/05/2008 6:28:11 PM PDT by ASOC (I know I don't look like much, but I raised a US Marine!)
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To: Steve Schulin

Because Republican votes here in Mass. don’t count anyway, I would vote for him if he is on the ballot.


11 posted on 04/05/2008 6:30:46 PM PDT by balls
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
A vote for Ambassador Alan Keyes is a vote for Senator Barack Hussein Obama, no matter how you slice it.

...and a vote for MCain is a vote for another worthless piece of Republican BS. A vote for EITHER Republican or Democrat is a vote for the destruction of the USA.

12 posted on 04/05/2008 6:32:11 PM PDT by politicalwit (AKA... A Tradition Continues...Now a Hoosier Freeper)
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To: Steve Schulin

I would vote for Alan Keyes.. Heck I would vote for Eddie Murphy if he was not a democrat.. But I will not vote for John McLaim..


13 posted on 04/05/2008 6:32:29 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: Steve Schulin
She asked him what he can do, short-term and long-term, about rising gasoline prices.

Given that I understand supply and demand, I hope, if he does something, it is on the supply side. I don't want the government artificially decreasing the demand side. They ALWAYS demand that we use less while they use all they want.

14 posted on 04/05/2008 6:33:31 PM PDT by Onelifetogive (This is an Obama-nation!)
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To: Steve Schulin

McCain has stated that things can be done to replace our dependence on oil. Now what kinds of action is McCain going to do to get it done? Do nothing country club back stabber Republican.


15 posted on 04/05/2008 6:37:26 PM PDT by bilhosty
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To: Always Right
"Maybe there is hope for McCain yet."

You better consider this quote again: ""We can do so many things in alternate energy to eliminate our dependence on foreign oil."

Alternate energy? We don't need no steenking alternate energy! Oil is cheap and plentiful, and nothing cheaper will ever replace it.

McClown says nothing about drilling in ANWAR or off our coasts, or maybe building refineries so we don't have to import the refined product.

16 posted on 04/05/2008 6:37:35 PM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: Slump Tester

Well I did say ‘maybe’. Just a small glimmer of hope that McCain is not in complete lockstep with the liberal doctrine.


17 posted on 04/05/2008 6:42:09 PM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: Freedom4US

If Senator McCain feels the need to select a black running mate, it’l be someone like J.C. Watts or Michael Steele. I foresee Secretary Rice perhaps as another option.


18 posted on 04/05/2008 6:54:08 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Knowledge for Battle!)
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To: FixitGuy
Elect ME President and I'll tell ya how!

AKA, "I have a plan".

Sounds familiar.

19 posted on 04/05/2008 6:54:54 PM PDT by evad (.I.)
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To: Dawnsblood

The constitution party, libertarians, etc are stocking horses for Obama and Hitlery.

They know they can’t win and would rather have anti war, pro amnesty, anti 2nd amend. Obama or Hitlery as President


20 posted on 04/05/2008 6:57:05 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Don't Blame Me - I Supported Duncan Hunter)
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To: All
....I would appreciate a little respect for our conservative champion... Just because he could have been your Democratice VP, does not mean we should make fun of him.

Oh yes, does it make you feel like VOMITING when he starts with "My friends, I was WRONG!.."



21 posted on 04/05/2008 7:19:29 PM PDT by ElPatriota (Duncan Hunter 08 -- I am proud to support this man for my president and may be Huck?.. Naah :))
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To: SoCalPol
There's many months to go before the election. I stood with other Freepers against Bill Clinton's many corruptions long before the Lewinsky story broke, which was years before you joined. You can call my party what you want, but I see no honor nor practical benefit in supporting the Republicans any more. George W. Bush was a much better president than I expected, and for that I am grateful. But my expectations were pretty much nil for him, and are even lower for John McCain. Maybe you and George Soros will be happy to vote for the same guy. So who's a stocking horse for whom?

If you disagree with Alan Keyes on important matters, I hope you'll talk about them. Maybe you think McCain-Feingold campaign finance law is great. Or maybe you think Lieberman-McCain CO2 cap bill is great. Or maybe you like anybody who gets an "F" grade from Gun Owners of America. Speak up, by all means, for what you believe warrants your voting for McCain.

22 posted on 04/05/2008 7:37:20 PM PDT by Steve Schulin (Cheap electricity gives your average Joe a life better than kings used to enjoy)
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To: Steve Schulin
There's not much that can be done short-term, he said, because we're too dependent on foreign oil.

Thanks to you McCain! no drilling! No new refineries! And now were supposed to wait for the magic hybrid. Hey McInsane, I'll believe that when I see you and your botoxed old lady driving a Prius on your campain stops! No way in hell am I voting for this idiot!

23 posted on 04/05/2008 7:48:32 PM PDT by Bommer (Hmmm who to vote for? A Far leftist? A Radical Leftist? Or a Republican that enjoys being a Leftist?)
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To: Steve Schulin

I guess you didn’t see my tag line.
I also worked for Reagan when he first ran for gov.

ACLU wants to help defend alleged Sept. 11 mastermind 5 April 2008.
Libertarian Bobb Barr has been on the payroll of the ACLU for years.

1992 Pres. results

Clinton 43%
GHWBush 37%
Perot 19%

Third party also gave us Carter.

After the third party gave us the disasters in the Middle East, Corruption, etc. I guess that isn’t enough.
Maybe another 9/11. But then again the L Ron Paulites are anti war and many think 9/11 was staged.

Enjoy your third party or should I say Obama and the finish of our country


24 posted on 04/05/2008 7:49:34 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Don't Blame Me - I Supported Duncan Hunter)
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To: Always Right

Drill 4 oil now in ANWR, The Gulf, California, Florida and the shale.

25 posted on 04/05/2008 7:53:23 PM PDT by Foolsgold (after all we got Daschel)
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To: Steve Schulin

Too tired to read it right now self-ping.


26 posted on 04/05/2008 8:01:11 PM PDT by Mike-o-Matic
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To: SoCalPol
I saw your tag line. You apparently want to absolve yourself of responsibility for the selection of the candidate for whom you apparently urge folks to vote. The election is eight months away, and you apparently have given up hope of doing better than the candidate for whom you don't want to be blamed. And you apparently do this because you've observed that 3rd parties have benefited Democrats in recent decades. I prefer to see these eight months as an opportunity to let tens of millions of my fellow Americans get a chance to see and hear Alan Keyes on the same debate platform as McCain and the Democrat, and any other candidate who polls well enough to be included in the debates. I think the more folks know about Keyes, the more likely they are to vote for him, because he is thoughtful in analyzing issues and persuasive in describing his conclusions.

Anybody who can't stand the thought of Hillary or Obama being President has at least that in common with me. McCain said Hillary would make a good President. The only kind thing I can say about McCain, after watching him in the Senate these many years, is that its possible he may justly be considered a casualty of war.

27 posted on 04/05/2008 9:52:39 PM PDT by Steve Schulin (Cheap electricity gives your average Joe a life better than kings used to enjoy)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Prove it, because 2+2 most certainly doesn’t=5!


28 posted on 04/05/2008 10:02:37 PM PDT by JSDude1 (Tis only a “protest” vote if your political worldview is Republican 1st, conservative 2nd. -pissant.)
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To: Steve Schulin
Sorry man, Keyes had his chance against Obama. 2004 Senate, Illinois.
Obama - 3,597,456 - 70%
Keyes - 1,390,690 - 27%

Same year:
Kerry - 2,891,550 - 55%
Bush - 2,345,946 - 44%

2002 - A sacrificial lamb year for Illinois Senate
Durbin - 2,080,411 60%
Durkin - 1,320,621 38%

Keyes ran 17% behind Bush in one of his weakest states. SO many people who voted for Bush voted for Obama against Keyes. He ran 11% behind Durkin in another democrat year in Illinois, 2002. Durkin was a sacrificial lamb and got what should be a bare minimum in Illinois. That's not counting the fact that Keyes has run numerous times for president in the past and went nowhere each time.

I'll go so far to say that I blame two people more than anything else for making Obama into a media star. One is Jack Ryan for screwing up and letting Jeri Ryan get away (dropping out of the race), and the other is Alan Keyes for carpetbagging and running a Charlie Foxtrot of a campaign.

Keyes needs to back out of running and go back to the speaker's circuit where he does best. He gave us Senator Obama. I don't need him to give us President Obama.

29 posted on 04/05/2008 10:11:45 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in - Michael Corleone)
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To: Darren McCarty

Dear Darren - all else being equal, one could expect similar results. But this year already has many significant guaranteed differences from prior elections, and there’s still eight months to go. That’s significantly longer than the entire 2004 Keyes campaign in Illinois — he agreed to run 86 days before the election in that case. Eight months is a very long time.

But nothing gives me more hope than my abiding belief that with God, all things are possible. I’ve never had a whit of desire to attend a political convention, but I’ve made my hotel reservations for the Constitution Party’s Kansas City convention. I don’t even know whether or not I’ll get to be a Maryland delegate yet. But these times seem extraordinary to me, and if I don’t support the only candidate who comes close to representing my views, well, I’m not satisfied with displaying a “Don’t Blame Me” bumper sticker or tagline. A vote for McCain would be a vote to give the global governance crowd the keys to our economy and way of life, via carbon dioxide controls. I can not imagine ever casting such a vote.

As to castigating Keyes for carpetbagging in Illinois, I respectfully and wholeheartedly disagree. My take on it is that he accepted a challenge and displayed great courage. Who would you have preferred to have been placed on the ticket by the Illinois Republican Party?


30 posted on 04/06/2008 3:56:28 AM PDT by Steve Schulin (Cheap electricity gives your average Joe a life better than kings used to enjoy)
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To: Steve Schulin

A couple of facts : US buildings use 1/3 of the energy produced, and it takes 3 KW in the power system to deliver 1 KW to your electrical panel. If every building in the US was super-duper insulated the demand for new energy supplies would drop dramatically. Also, fish have tapered tails, semitrucks have flat backs(thus enormous drag from turbulence), why?


31 posted on 04/06/2008 4:32:55 AM PDT by timer (n/0=n=nx0)
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To: Darren McCarty; SoCalPol; deport; All
Keyes was screwed royally by the RINOS in Illinois.He was not even given a chance to distribute his litrature state wide. Caused the same people who gave Sen Fitzgerald so many headaches and played a key role in him deciding to quit. Then state GOP chair Judy Barr Topinka, Jim Edgar,and Jim Thompson, (McCain backers) If you want to talk about losers look at Topinka's count when she ran against soon to be indicted Blagoyavich.

What bothers me most about conservative attitudes towards Keyes including some talk show hosts (wtmj's am 620 Charlie Sykes for example) when his name crops up is they are repeating the same mantra which was offered by MSM and echoed by Topinka and company .

When Keyes gets criticized on his Illinois race thats the reason and I've taken Sykes as much as I respect him for the great work he's doing in Wisconsin to task in my website http://www.theusmat.com/ for failing to dredge up the dirty deeds done to Keyes by Illinois RINOS ...As far as Keyes positions on social issues go they're not much different and than Huckabee's and no reason to be vilified as Keyes has been..But I am sticking by the old man as the lessor of two evils. Any fool who sees it differently with a 3rd way is a recipe for disaster. What we should be doing is targeting, guys like Murtha, Durbin,and Obey, making sure that if Obama gets in he doesn't have the horses to stampede US off the cliff

32 posted on 04/06/2008 11:16:43 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (Confront your favorite dem and ask em why we're not getting our own oil)
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To: mosesdapoet
..But I am sticking by the old man as the lessor of two evils. Any fool who sees it differently with a 3rd way is a recipe for disaster. What we should be doing is targeting, guys like Murtha, Durbin,and Obey, making sure that if Obama gets in he doesn't have the horses to stampede US off the cliff


Keyes is a loser pure and simple. It isn't just his loss in IL but look at all his attempts, MD, Presidential primaries and IL. The voters have rejected him by huge margins yet he can't understand that. That makes me wonder about his judgment or ability to recognized the landscape.

As far as a 3rd party effort I agree with you totally that is a recipe for disaster. Those spending time and effort on a 3rd party effort know full well they can't win and that the President is going to be elected from either the Republican or Democratic nominee.

Down ticket candidates from the local to the state to the Federal level is where we need to place a lot of effort. It is these positions that will help conservative hold ground and reduce losses that can be induced via the President and his/her policies.

33 posted on 04/06/2008 11:37:25 AM PDT by deport ( -- Cue Spooky Music --)
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To: Steve Schulin
I will vote for Keyes if he makes the ballot. Don't pay any attention to the GOP firsters and the “sunshine” conservatives that are shilling for their comrade McCain.
34 posted on 04/06/2008 11:46:21 AM PDT by Jay Redhawk
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To: Jay Redhawk

Loser for losers thread.


35 posted on 04/06/2008 11:53:34 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Never say never (there'll be a VP you'll like))
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To: Foolsgold
And you forgot of the Coast of Cape Cod, Under the Great Lakes (yes the Canadians are side drilling under it for Natural Gas), The Bakken North Dakota Find and the West Virigina horizontal drilling huge Gas Pocket.

Did I leave any out :-)....

Oh ya also....

Coal to Oil for our airliners and trucks vis the Fisher-Tropsch process.

Breeder Nukes, 50 of them in 5 years, 1 per state, the heck with Jimma Carter and his ban and Jane Fonda too. No need for Yucca Mountain as we reuse the fuel.

Natural Gas Baby, for our cars, T-Boon Picken's loves it, that is good enough for me.

These will all make the Chevy Volt even better, now GM make it run on CNG.

One gasoline please these Boutique gasolines are killing us EPA.

Enough with the Ethanol Boondoggle already....

36 posted on 04/06/2008 12:02:28 PM PDT by taildragger (The Answer is Fred Thompson, I do not care what the question is.....)
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To: bert
I would rather vote for a loser than reward the GOP with my vote. I am sure McCain can attract enough dimocrats to his side to win the presidency. If not, at least I won't have to worry about being stabbed in the back.
37 posted on 04/06/2008 12:14:54 PM PDT by Jay Redhawk
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To: deport
I'm one of those who voted against Keyes about 20 years ago in Maryland Republican primary for Senate race. If I had known more about him then than what the local paper reported, maybe I'd have voted differently. I do know more now, and I'll do what I can to inform others that they have a broader choice than McCain or one of the other liberals in the race.

Does your comment, that 3rd party can't win, mean that you disagree with my previously voiced (in this thread) motto: "With God, all things are possible."? I think Keyes would be a great President and I think he can win by running as nominee of Constitution Party.

I have felt foolish on occasion in the past, such as when I supported the Dole-Kemp ticket. The campaign waged by those fellows seemed like as big a zero as could be.

I've very much enjoyed the Keyes campaign public conference calls on Tuesdays and Thursdays, 10 pm ET. When I dialed in the first time a few months ago, I didn't consider it might be possible that my very high esteem for Dr. Keyes could be raised. But after hearing him answer questions thoughtfully and thoroughly night after night, I do indeed support his candidacy more now than any time prior - including the days I enthusiastically voted for him in 2000 and 2008 Republican presidential primaries.

Alan Keyes will campaign with enthusiasm for the principles I hold dear, starting with the Declaration of Independence's statement that we are endowed by our creator with certain unalienable rights. If elected, I am convinced that he will keep those principles in mind when it comes to making the many decisions that a president must make. If this election is important, as I think it is, I would be doing my fellow Americans and all our children a disservice by not helping others learn of Keyes' candidacy.

38 posted on 04/06/2008 1:11:14 PM PDT by Steve Schulin (Cheap electricity gives your average Joe a life better than kings used to enjoy)
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To: Steve Schulin; Abundy; Albion Wilde; AlwaysFree; AnnaSASsyFR; bayliving; BFM; ...

Maryland “Freak State” PING!

(refers to the liberal freakiness of the state)


39 posted on 04/06/2008 1:24:23 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Big tents stand for little.)
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To: Steve Schulin
"We can reemphasize and dramatically increase nuclear power" -- McCain

Nuclear power always comes with a risk of a meltdown. I'm afraid I'm going to have to be NIMBY about this issue. Especially being on the West Coast, where we get frequent earthquakes.

40 posted on 04/06/2008 1:41:40 PM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (We're living in the Dark Ages.)
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To: Steve Schulin

I asked you early on this thread how many votes the CP candidate got in the 2004 election. You chose not to respond.

You show me a outlined plan whereby a CP or any other 3rd party candidate can get the EC votes needed to win and I’ll agree with Gods help it maybe possible. Todate no one can come up with a plan, the documented polling to show even a remote potential for wins in enough states, the resources needed and where they will come from, the state organizations, and on and on.

It isn’t in the cards in todays environment with our system of electing a President for a 3rd party to be anything more than a hope. Hell Perot with all his hype, money, etc. couldn’t garner more than some 19% of the popular votes and zero EC votes which are the critical ones.

So at this stage Keyes or any other 3rd party candidate is a loser as far as I’m concerned. You have the right to view it differently and I have the right to disagree. I think the effort should be placed upon winning as many down ticket positions as possible where there is only needed at the largest a statewide vote to be a winner.


41 posted on 04/06/2008 2:12:21 PM PDT by deport ( -- Cue Spooky Music --)
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To: mosesdapoet; Jim Robinson

Keyes is wound to tight.
Your basic normal conervative will not vote for him as will not moderate conservatives and moderates.

There are not enough conservative voters to carry a wingnut like Keyes.
Also he has never held elective office on a state or national level.

Get Real
Also ask Jim Robinson what he thinks of Keyes.

McCain is not my first choice but dividing his votes puts in Obama who will pull out our troops and a second Vietnam will be our finish.
You won’t get people signing up for the military and we are in a major wide open situation for another 9/11 only worse.
There won’t be a next time for an election.


42 posted on 04/06/2008 4:38:23 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Don't Blame Me - I Supported Duncan Hunter)
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To: taildragger
"Coal to Oil for our airliners and trucks vis the Fisher-Tropsch process."
Didn't Bill close down a huge "clean" coal source with the 4 corner National Monument?
43 posted on 04/06/2008 5:05:26 PM PDT by Foolsgold (after all we got Daschel)
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To: deport
By your definition of loser, I think the Republicans would have been losers all the way until the day Lincoln was elected. This year's presidential race is different than any I can recall. Liberals will split their votes between McCain, the Democrat, the Greens' Cynthia McKinney, the independent Ralph Nader, and possibly the whoever the Libertarian Party nominates. Who will the conservatives vote for? McCain will be portrayed as a conservative, but most conservatives are thoughtful folks, and I think the more they learn about McCain, the less likely they are to favor him. I'd like Alan Keyes to be amongst the choices on the ballot this year in every state.

The Constitution Party candidate got very few votes in 2004 -- Bush got 62,040,606, Kerry got 59,028,109, and Nader led the rest with 411,304, according to the CNN page I pulled up after googling for the answer to your question. The Federal Election Commission 2004 results I saw only provide state-by-state data for the CP Candidate, who was Michael A. Peroutka of Maryland, by the way. My quick sum of that data shows 143,630 votes for Mr. Peroutka.

Eight months to go seems too early to give up any prospect of electing a President that shares more than a smidgeon of my values. Where was the Senator from Arizona during the Clinton impeachment? He chose to let Clinton have a pass. That's not the kind of man I want as President. I see another poster in the thread suggests I ask our dear host Jim Robinson what he thinks about Keyes. Well, I recall cheering for Jim and Alan Keyes both at a Free Republic event called the March for Justice here on the mall in sight of the Washington Monument during that impeachment effort. An audio file of the speech Keyes gave that day is still available at http://www.alankeyes.com

McCain parlayed his Keating 5 corruption experience as expertise in campaign finance reform. That was a pretty slick maneuver on his part, and he's gotten away with it at least until now. But I think the Clintons routinely eat corrupt guys like McCain for breakfast, and if Obama can somehow survive the Clinton end game, I suspect he'll have no trouble driving McCain's negatives through the roof too. The swift boat veterans criticisms about Kerry will look like trivial concerns compared to the prospects of electing a potential Manchurian Candidate as president.

44 posted on 04/06/2008 5:29:15 PM PDT by Steve Schulin (Cheap electricity gives your average Joe a life better than kings used to enjoy)
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To: Steve Schulin

Ifa’s, coulda’s and woulda’s, no thanks. I’ll operate in the present era not in some distant past where the landscape was much different.

Yep the CP got something around .0025% [<150,000] of the popular vote and zero electoral college votes. They didn’t do any better in 2000 either.

I’m not sure how someone like Keyes can even hope to be a contender when he can’t even score within the Republican Primaries nor any other race he has entered as a Republican. The Republicans aren’t going to suddenly go crazy over him just because he’s on the CP ballot in most states... The CP doesn’t have the base to win on a national ticket much less the appeal to get crossover and independent voters.


45 posted on 04/06/2008 6:09:28 PM PDT by deport ( -- Cue Spooky Music --)
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To: SoCalPol
Dear SoCalPol: I saw Libertarian presidential candidate George Phillies mention Bob Barr in a press release, and his take on Barr is much different than yours. You said "Libertarian Bobb Barr has been on the payroll of the ACLU for years."

The Libertarian Phillies said:

"In Summer 1999, Congressional bigots campaigned for Army persecution of members of the Wiccan faith. Republican Senator Thurmond demanded Wiccan services be excluded from the military. In an ABC News interview, then-Governor George Bush announced 'I don't think that witchcraft is a religion.' The charge was started by right-wing Georgia Congressman Bob Barr, who urged the Army to ban Wiccan services from military bases.

"Bigotry is a key theme of right-wing Republicanism, going back to the KKK and Concerned Citizens Councils," Phillies said. "Like all other patriotic Americans, Libertarians believe that Freedom of Religion is for everyone. No real Libertarian will ever ask that a religion's harmless practices be banned. This Fall, please take a stand against Republican bigotry. Please vote Libertarian."

--- END OF EXCERPT FROM CANDIDATE PHILLIES' PRESS RELEASE

It's dated April 1, but I don't think the Libertarian was joking.

I admired Bob Barr for his efforts to impeach Bill Clinton long before anybody knew anything about the only White House intern during Clinton years to get put on federal payroll. That you object to his common ground with ACLU while apparently urging folks to vote for McCain, who revels in finding common ground with conservative-haters, seems worthy of note.

46 posted on 04/06/2008 6:48:24 PM PDT by Steve Schulin (Cheap electricity gives your average Joe a life better than kings used to enjoy)
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To: deport

Your apparent support of McCain seems every bit, if not more so, full of “ifa’s, coulda’s, and woulda’s” too. What’s the best answer you’ve heard or can imagine to the following question: Sen. McCain, how can the public be sure that you weren’t programmed by your communist captors to be a tool, like “The Manchurian Candidate”?


47 posted on 04/06/2008 6:59:53 PM PDT by Steve Schulin (Cheap electricity gives your average Joe a life better than kings used to enjoy)
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To: Steve Schulin

My support for McCain is based upon the fact I will vote for him over the other choice of either Hillary or Obama. So far you and no other 3rd party hopeful has been able to lay out a plausible senario to win 270 EC votes.....

McCain wasn’t my choice among the primary wannabes but he’s what remains after the voters made their selection. I’ll vote for McCain in the General for the following two reasons:

a] The next SCOTUS nominees

b] The men and women of our military


48 posted on 04/06/2008 7:28:37 PM PDT by deport ( -- Cue Spooky Music --)
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To: Steve Schulin

We are in a different type of war and Bobb Barr who makes
it more difficult for the gov. and Military to obtain information on the enemy is aiding the enemy as do others of his ilk.

ACLU to Hire Bob Barr as Privacy Consultant
By Jeralyn, Section Civil Liberties
Posted on Sat Nov 23, 2002 at 07:59:03 AM EST

The ACLU has agreed “in principle” to hire defeated G.O.P. Congressman Bob Barr as a consultant , working on “privacy, surveillance and national security issues.”

Also
Dick Armey started working with the ACLU after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. She said Armey was instrumental in making sure the new Homeland Security Act did not include a national ID card or Operation TIPS, a planned Terrorism Information and Prevention System


49 posted on 04/06/2008 10:40:15 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Don't Blame Me - I Supported Duncan Hunter)
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To: SoCalPol

Bob Barr and Dick Armey have well-represented a lot of folks who consider themselves conservatives over the years. They are leaders both. I share their concern about the balance between liberty and security. Don’t you? The federal government has failed miserably in controlling who gets into the country. To disparage folks who are very opposed to national ID cards in the future, instead of demanding that the borders be secured now, seems about as intellectually bankrupt a choice as can be. McCain’s record on border control is that he’s years late in urging it.


50 posted on 04/07/2008 5:21:29 AM PDT by Steve Schulin (Cheap electricity gives your average Joe a life better than kings used to enjoy)
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