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To: Darren McCarty; SoCalPol; deport; All
Keyes was screwed royally by the RINOS in Illinois.He was not even given a chance to distribute his litrature state wide. Caused the same people who gave Sen Fitzgerald so many headaches and played a key role in him deciding to quit. Then state GOP chair Judy Barr Topinka, Jim Edgar,and Jim Thompson, (McCain backers) If you want to talk about losers look at Topinka's count when she ran against soon to be indicted Blagoyavich.

What bothers me most about conservative attitudes towards Keyes including some talk show hosts (wtmj's am 620 Charlie Sykes for example) when his name crops up is they are repeating the same mantra which was offered by MSM and echoed by Topinka and company .

When Keyes gets criticized on his Illinois race thats the reason and I've taken Sykes as much as I respect him for the great work he's doing in Wisconsin to task in my website http://www.theusmat.com/ for failing to dredge up the dirty deeds done to Keyes by Illinois RINOS ...As far as Keyes positions on social issues go they're not much different and than Huckabee's and no reason to be vilified as Keyes has been..But I am sticking by the old man as the lessor of two evils. Any fool who sees it differently with a 3rd way is a recipe for disaster. What we should be doing is targeting, guys like Murtha, Durbin,and Obey, making sure that if Obama gets in he doesn't have the horses to stampede US off the cliff

32 posted on 04/06/2008 11:16:43 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (Confront your favorite dem and ask em why we're not getting our own oil)
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To: mosesdapoet
..But I am sticking by the old man as the lessor of two evils. Any fool who sees it differently with a 3rd way is a recipe for disaster. What we should be doing is targeting, guys like Murtha, Durbin,and Obey, making sure that if Obama gets in he doesn't have the horses to stampede US off the cliff


Keyes is a loser pure and simple. It isn't just his loss in IL but look at all his attempts, MD, Presidential primaries and IL. The voters have rejected him by huge margins yet he can't understand that. That makes me wonder about his judgment or ability to recognized the landscape.

As far as a 3rd party effort I agree with you totally that is a recipe for disaster. Those spending time and effort on a 3rd party effort know full well they can't win and that the President is going to be elected from either the Republican or Democratic nominee.

Down ticket candidates from the local to the state to the Federal level is where we need to place a lot of effort. It is these positions that will help conservative hold ground and reduce losses that can be induced via the President and his/her policies.

33 posted on 04/06/2008 11:37:25 AM PDT by deport ( -- Cue Spooky Music --)
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To: mosesdapoet; Jim Robinson

Keyes is wound to tight.
Your basic normal conervative will not vote for him as will not moderate conservatives and moderates.

There are not enough conservative voters to carry a wingnut like Keyes.
Also he has never held elective office on a state or national level.

Get Real
Also ask Jim Robinson what he thinks of Keyes.

McCain is not my first choice but dividing his votes puts in Obama who will pull out our troops and a second Vietnam will be our finish.
You won’t get people signing up for the military and we are in a major wide open situation for another 9/11 only worse.
There won’t be a next time for an election.


42 posted on 04/06/2008 4:38:23 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Don't Blame Me - I Supported Duncan Hunter)
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