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Rowan's Laugh-In [Archbishop demonstrates why liberal Christianity is a joke]
Toronto Sun ^ | 2008-02-16 | Michael Coren

Posted on 02/16/2008 3:32:49 AM PST by Clive

Rowan's Laugh-In

Archbishop demonstrates why liberal Christianity is a joke

By MICHAEL COREN

A friend of mine went to high school with Rowan Williams, the Archbishop of Canterbury.

"He was a nice enough fellow," the friend told me in his lyrical Welsh tones. "But whenever we had rugby or gym he seemed to have a note from his mother saying that he was ill and couldn't do sport."

Never trust a man who won't show his knees or run around a field. And never trust an arrogant liberal, especially one who makes a public statement that the British should introduce a form of Sharia law to their country.

The comments, made a week ago, outraged the nation and were condemned by the leaders of all of the major political parties, most of Williams' own senior bishops, Catholic and Jewish leaders, editors and commentators and even many influential Muslims.

The archbishop made the usual semi-apology that wasn't really an apology at all and then went on to explain how clever he was and how everyone else was taking him out of context.

The real tragedy here though, good sir, is not your tedious remark but the fact that it doesn't actually matter.

The Archbishop of Canterbury, the Anglicans, the United church and liberal Christianity all over the western world have become largely irrelevant.

These denominations still have some money of course and will continue to sell off empty churches to pay bills. But members have hemorrhaged and the old establishment simply is dying off.

DYING DENOMINATIONS

Put directly, within a generation in North America and Europe these denominations will cease to exist in any meaningful manner.

But the damage they have done is incalculable, and in some ways it has little to do with religion. Even people who had no belief system and no time for organized faith saw the church as a representation of the absolute.

Certain acts, attitudes and actions were wrong and while we might fail and fall, they thought, the church was somewhere out there to remind us what was right.

Whether it was theft, dishonesty, cruelty, infidelity, greed, perversion, promiscuity, selfishness, vulgarity or plain old general sin -- a word largely expunged from the liberal theological lexicon -- it was obvious where the good guys stood.

This didn't guarantee a perfect world, but it did oblige us to try a little harder and to resist rather than surrender.

Once the church gave up the fight and said that almost anything was okay if it made you feel good, the door was wide open. Rather like the alcoholic who is told that a drink doesn't matter or the diabetic instructed that candy does no harm.

At the very time when we most needed an unchanging and sometimes annoying principal to tell us there were limits and that we shouldn't cross them, we were instead given a substitute teacher. Rather than a strong voice we had a weak accent.

Within us all there is a God-shaped vacuum. Now it's filled by Oprah, celebrity, sound bite morality and the latest guru with comforting words. The Charter of Rights and Freedoms will save us and the state will pay for the new road to happiness. What a mess!

Roman Catholicism and the evangelical church stand firm and, no surprise at all, Islamic and Jewish orthodoxy are growing steadily. As for the archbishop and his kind, perhaps they can bring an excuse note from their moms. It better be convincing.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: eurabia; europeanchristians; religiousleft; rowanwilliams
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1 posted on 02/16/2008 3:32:52 AM PST by Clive
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To: Alberta's Child; albertabound; AntiKev; backhoe; Byron_the_Aussie; Cannoneer No. 4; ...

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2 posted on 02/16/2008 3:34:50 AM PST by Clive
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To: Clive

Good slap of common sense!


3 posted on 02/16/2008 3:37:37 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast ( Peel back tabs for tagline. Do not remove this label. Obey.)
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To: Clive

COR BLIMEY EES A TWIT AINT EE?....


4 posted on 02/16/2008 4:15:13 AM PST by flat
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To: Clive; sionnsar

ROwan is destroying what was left of Anglicanism. I can’t see the Nigerian Anglicans (who ARE orthodox) standing for this — especially since Nigerian Christians are threatened by Sharia-wielding muslims in the north who now say that Christians support gay marriages and abortion.


5 posted on 02/16/2008 4:32:01 AM PST by Cronos ("Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant" - Omar Ahmed, CAIR)
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To: Clive

ping


6 posted on 02/16/2008 4:39:45 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: Clive

We always take the good things we have for granted. As a result, we fail to protect them. Religion is one of the good things. Perhaps Rowan Williams will be the catalyst that makes us treasure what we might lose.


7 posted on 02/16/2008 4:43:29 AM PST by kitkat
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To: Clive
Definitions:

Liberal: tolerant of change; not bound by authoritarianism, orthodoxy, or tradition.

Conservative: resistant to change.

Christian: following the teachings or manifesting the qualities or spirit of Jesus Christ who personally cited the Scriptures as the inerrant Word of God.

Therefore, the term, "liberal Christian," is an oxymoron. This article merely confirms the obvious.
8 posted on 02/16/2008 4:54:35 AM PST by Lucky Dog
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To: Clive; GMMAC; exg; kanawa; conniew; backhoe; -YYZ-; Former Proud Canadian; Squawk 8888; ...

9 posted on 02/16/2008 4:58:10 AM PST by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: Cronos

Actually the Nigerian Church is emerging as the head church in their communion. I think the most underreported story of the century is how american churches are placing then selfs under the authority of 3rd world bishops. It’s Christianity shift it’s center of power.


10 posted on 02/16/2008 5:18:20 AM PST by Sci Fi Guy (Brian De Palma hates America)
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To: Sci Fi Guy

I consider that a good thing — the Nigerians may be third-world economically, but the ECUSA and the English/Scottish church is definitely third-rate spiritually


11 posted on 02/16/2008 5:24:13 AM PST by Cronos ("Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant" - Omar Ahmed, CAIR)
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To: fanfan
Your tagline:

("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)

Gave me an idea for Bill Clinton's attempt at sounding like Winston Churchill:

"We shall do them on the beaches..."

Cheers!

12 posted on 02/16/2008 5:35:27 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

LOL.


13 posted on 02/16/2008 5:37:38 AM PST by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: Clive
"The Archbishop of Canterbury, the Anglicans, the United church and liberal Christianity all over the western world have become largely irrelevant."

Correction:

'The Archbishop of Canterbury, the Anglicans, the United church and liberal apostasy all over the western world have become largely irrelevant.'

There - it's fixed now.
14 posted on 02/16/2008 6:30:09 AM PST by WorkingClassFilth (Get yer red meat, tobaccy and ammo, now. The krinton syndicate is moving back into the WH.)
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To: Clive

He needs to be sent down to Craggy Island to join his soulmate and step brother, Fr. Jack Hackett.

What a disgusting offense to God, is Rowan Williams.
And now he tries to lie his way out of his “Gods rules mean nothing” liberal death cultism.


15 posted on 02/16/2008 6:59:16 AM PST by DGHoodini (Happy Leap Month!)
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To: Clive

Who really cares what the Archdruid of Paganbury thinks?

I mean, geez what a little nerd. He should be wearing a pink suit and playing Grandfather Twilight.

;^)


16 posted on 02/16/2008 8:53:30 AM PST by elcid1970
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To: sionnsar

Anglican ping


17 posted on 02/16/2008 8:59:23 AM PST by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we write in marble. JHuett)
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To: Sci Fi Guy

In the 3rd world, all one has to do essentially is to worry about your survival as a breathing human being. Spritually speaking, it’s so liberating. Oh and how, how blessed really, to not to have to worry and account for all your riches to the state, and God when it’s your time.

They are to be envied because they are Lazurus at the gate of the rich man, and because our collective poverty of the soul in the land of excess makes life really really hard


18 posted on 02/16/2008 9:10:50 AM PST by SaintDismas (.)
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To: Clive

“Will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest?” — Henry II


19 posted on 02/16/2008 2:06:07 PM PST by KingSnorky
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To: Clive

Heere Bigynneth the Tale of the Asse-Hatte.
An Archbishop of Canterbury Tale

With apologies to Geoffrey Chaucer

1 Whan in Februar, withe hise global warmynge

2 Midst unseasonabyl rain and stormynge

3 Gaia in hyr heat encourages

4 Englande folke to goon pilgrimages.

5 Frome everiches farme and shire

6 Frome London Towne and Lancanshire

7 The pilgryms toward Canterbury wended

8 Wyth fyve weke holiday leave extended

9 In hybryd Prius and Subaru

10 Off the Boughton Bypasse, east on M2.
...

83 “But the Musselman is sure to see

84 Thy funne as Western hegemony.

85 `Tis not Cristian for Cristians to cause

86 The Moor to live by Cristendom’s laws

87 Whan he has hise sovereyn culture

88 Crist bade us put ours in sepulture.

89 To be divyne we must first be diverse

90 So cheer thee well, thynges could be wors

91 Sharia is Englishe as tea and scones,

92 So everybody muste get stoned.”

http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk/2008/02/heere-bigynneth.html


20 posted on 02/16/2008 2:10:10 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Global warming is to Revelations as the theory of evolution is to Genesis.)
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