Adam Schiff, eh?
I like the guy who replaced him much better...
Posted on 10/17/2007 11:32:36 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
Murtha: Armenian genocide vote to fail
By ANNE FLAHERTY, Associated Press Writer 9 minutes ago
Rep. John Murtha, a prominent Democrat, said Wednesday that his party's leadership underestimated opposition to a resolution on Armenian genocide and conceded that such a vote would easily fail.
Murtha's prediction came as President Bush urged Congress not to infuriate Turkey, considered a key U.S. and NATO ally that has facilitated the flow of critical cargo to American troops fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan.
The House proposal, which would label as genocide the killing of Armenians a century ago by Ottoman Turks, has inflamed U.S. tensions with Turkey, which says the death toll has been inflated and was the result of civil unrest. Support for the nonbinding resolution deteriorated this week after Turkey recalled its U.S. ambassador to Ankara and congressional opponents including Murtha, D-Pa., warned their colleagues that it would cripple U.S. relations with Turkey.
Murtha is considered an influential voice among Democrats on military affairs. Chairman of the panel that oversees defense spending, Murtha helped House Speaker Nancy Pelosi lead anti-war efforts this year.
"If it came to the floor, it would not pass," with some 55 to 60 Democrats opposing the measure, Murtha told reporters. As of Thursday, House Democrats will hold a 233-200 majority.
Pelosi, D-Calif., is expected to hold off on a vote until she gets a better idea of how many House members will support it — a task assumed behind the scenes by the resolution's primary co-sponsors, including Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif. More than a dozen lawmakers withdrew their sponsorship of the measure this month.
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Perhaps the Democrats can now move on to the bill that certifies Saddam Hussein’s genocide?
That is the only reason the Democrats support this is to interfere with the supply of US troops. This is an end the war by other means tactic.
Could the Dhimmis possibly get any more tone-deaf?
It is deeply inappropriate for the United States to go around declaring this or that event a genocide when this nation is itself founded on the back of one of the worst acts of cultural genocide the world has ever known. Hopefully this measure does fail.
Not the only thing your party has underestimated. Wait until November 2008.
Troll.....
This resolution causes me to question the loyalties of both Pelosi and the Armenian-American activists.
Adam Schiff, eh?
I like the guy who replaced him much better...
You talkin' 'bout me? Talkin' 'bout me...cause I'm the only one here...
The majority of American Indians live in a near neolithic culture. If we didn't displace them it would have been someone else, and we were pretty much the best neighbors on the block at the time.
And we didn't commit Genocide. If we did I couldn't claim to have kin who have Indian blood. They live on within us.
This is an issue that never should have been given time considering the important things congress is supposed to be working on but failing.
Yes it must fail. What a profound waste of time going back in history with the blame game. That goes for you too.
Interesting... apparently by pointing out the honest facts of the birth of the United States I am denigrating the nation and should leave, or am dredging up needless past, or am simply wrong about those facts, or am a troll. Fascinating.
Whether you want to accept it or not, there was a genocide that occurred here. This does not mean that the US needs to do anything about it now, nor does it mean that the nation is somehow flawed. It’s simply what happened. For congress to waste its time with needlessly antagonizing key allies while turning a blind eye to the history of the US itself is both hypocritical and foolish.
We have no choice but to accept the past history of our nation. Or the whole world as far as that goes.
Congress has no business bringing up facts from 60 years ago, and rubbing it into another nation to get some kind of unproductive response.
We learned from Hitler, and Tojo, and the Crusades, and 9/11. Don’t forget the Kamir Rouge slaughtering 2 million Cambodians after Viet Nam. All had their atrocities. Somalia and Kosovo and Darfur have current similarities. Conquest of the Americas had some wrongdoings as well. Many people have died, both in defense or in conquest. Slavery was wrong and still is. Yet people continue to be enslaved. Man makes mistakes. But the biggest mistake mankind can make is to allow those mistakes to continue or be repeated.
Yes. We should not forget historical fact. What revolts me is when people try to justify silence because of past mistake and point the finger of blame away from the present.
There seems to be varying interest depending on the situations or the people /ethnic groups involved.
But dwelling in the past has never brought about change.
Hey, you're right --about the "cultural" part.
Yessiree, those socialistic Indian reservations ARE "cultural genocide" and ought to be abolished!
As for actual genocide, no. Many American Indian tribes were just as intent on slaughtering every European-American man, woman and child in the most brutal, painful and horrific way possible.
If you don't believe that, then read Son of the Morning Star by Evan Connell.
And watch the movie, "Black Robe."
That's what American Indians were REALLY like, not the silly, sentimentalized, fraudulent version perpetrated by Hollywood in flicks like "Little Big Man."
Sunshine, Democrats worst enemy. At first they believed no one would understand what they were up to. The old parrot media, not a peep. Who told?
“It is deeply inappropriate for the United States to go around declaring this or that event a genocide when this nation is itself founded on the back of one of the worst acts of cultural genocide the world has ever known. Hopefully this measure does fail.”
What the hell are you talking about? You sure you are on the correct site with that comment?
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