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Support Wanes For Armenian Genocide Bill
Washington Post ^ | October 17, 2007 | Elizabeth Williamson

Posted on 10/17/2007 6:33:18 AM PDT by 3AngelaD

Chances for a U.S. resolution calling the mass killings of Armenians that began in 1915 genocide eroded dramatically last night, as sponsors dropped off in droves and senior Democrats urged House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) to abandon her support. The number of lawmakers supporting the bill has slipped below a majority... Legislators cited those objections, along with warnings from the Turkish government and from Gen. David H. Petraeus...that the resolution would cause Turkey to scale back its assistance in the Iraq war...

The House Foreign Affairs Committee passed the nonbinding resolution on a 27 to 21 bipartisan vote last week, but several of those who voted yes have since switched. Pelosi, who has a large population of ethnic Armenians in her district, reiterated her promise to bring the resolution to the full House for a vote...

But with the resolution's chances of passage apparently doomed, senior Democrats were urging Pelosi to declare victory with the successful committee vote...

Rep. Alcee L. Hastings (D-Fla.), who chairs the Commission on Security and Cooperation in Europe and Rep. John Tanner (D-Tenn.)...wrote to Pelosi and House Majority Leader Steny H. Hoyer (D-Md.) yesterday urging them to drop the legislation....

In the run-up to the committee vote last week, all eight living former secretaries of state and three former defense secretaries warned Pelosi that the resolution would endanger national security in the Middle East...

The Turkish government has spent millions of dollars on lobbying against the resolution since it was introduced by Rep. Adam B. Schiff (D), whose Southern California district contains one of the nation's largest ethnic Armenian populations. Schiff won his seat in 2000 after then-House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.) pulled an Armenia genocide bill from the House floor, dooming the reelection chances of Schiff's Republican predecessor.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: 110th; armenia; armeniangenocide; haha; nancypelosi; pelosi; turkey
This idea is so bad that even Alcee Hastings, the traitor Murtha and the idiot Wexler recognized it for the disaster it is. Schiff and Pelosi's actions in this matter are a textbook example of what the Federalist Papers were talking about when they warned about the dangers of factionalism.
1 posted on 10/17/2007 6:33:19 AM PDT by 3AngelaD
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To: 3AngelaD

Maybe we should call Pelosi’s Congress “Wanes World”..............


2 posted on 10/17/2007 6:35:02 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we have consensus.......)
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To: 3AngelaD

For Pelosi and her posse the hits just keep on coming.


3 posted on 10/17/2007 6:38:15 AM PDT by AU72
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To: 3AngelaD
Follow your normal strategy, Pelousy, retreat and declare victory.
4 posted on 10/17/2007 6:38:18 AM PDT by shove_it (nonillegitimous carborundum)
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To: 3AngelaD
In the run-up to the committee vote last week, all eight living former secretaries of state and three former defense secretaries warned Pelosi that the resolution would endanger national security in the Middle East...

And she still pursued it. Wow.

5 posted on 10/17/2007 6:40:11 AM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: 3AngelaD
"But with the resolution's chances of passage apparently doomed, senior Democrats were urging Pelosi to declare victory......"

Only in the democrat la-la land, supported by a syncopatic press could this be written.

6 posted on 10/17/2007 6:41:28 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Planting trees to offset carbon emissions is like drinking water to offset rising ocean levels)
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To: 3AngelaD
Pelosi's war...

7 posted on 10/17/2007 6:42:10 AM PDT by evets (beer)
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To: 3AngelaD

Actually, the damage they did with the committee vote almost requires that they bring this thing up to the floor and VOTE it down to show what a mistake the committee was.

Why is it that a few “dictators” in the house get to ignore a valid committee vote and pull legislation from the floor?


8 posted on 10/17/2007 6:47:55 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: 3AngelaD

hey “Nancy-the-nanny(state)goat”!

“busted”!

Rush called it right again;-)


9 posted on 10/17/2007 6:48:05 AM PDT by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you)
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To: 3AngelaD

Why did Pelosi get the works?
That’s no one’s business but the Turks


10 posted on 10/17/2007 6:48:32 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

You’re right... man, Pelousy certainly stepped in a big pile of xxxx this time. Here I thought such Congressional junkets as the one she took earlier this year were supposed to help congressmen become smarter about the world situation. I guess she’s just stuck on stooopid.

Thank goodness for the rise of internet communications and talk radio to counter the Demodogs stupidity. As little as ten years ago, this type of item would have sailed through a Congress, and Americans would might never have heard about the foolishness -— unless it were to become aware years later that a new war broke out because of some stupid diplomatic error on the part of the US.


11 posted on 10/17/2007 6:52:53 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: 3AngelaD
Pelosi didn't listen to President Bush or other experts, when they said this resolution was a bad idea

On the other hand, Hastert withdrew a house resolution about Armenia because President Clinton asked him to withdraw it. There wasn't a war going on in Iraq at the time.

This is a good example of the willingness of a Republican congress to act in a bipartisan way.

SPEAKER HASTERT WITHDRAWS ARMENIAN GENOCIDE RESOLUTION (2000)

Hastert said:

The President believes that passage of this resolution may adversely impact the situation in the Middle East and risk the lives of Americans...

The President has made plain his very strong concerns about the timing of this resolution


12 posted on 10/17/2007 6:53:42 AM PDT by syriacus (Christians are told to forgive others. Leftists THRIVE on bearing grudges at home and abroad.)
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To: dfwgator

Istambul was Constantinople
Now it’s Istambul, not Constantinople
Been a long time gone since Constantinople
Why did Constantinople get the works?
Than’s nobody’s business but the Turks.

Curse you! Now I’ll be singing that song all day long.


13 posted on 10/17/2007 6:57:57 AM PDT by toomuchcoffee
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To: AFPhys
Pelousy certainly stepped in a big pile of xxxx this time

Good thing she's told us she likes to clean The House.

14 posted on 10/17/2007 7:03:03 AM PDT by syriacus (Christians are told to forgive others. Leftists THRIVE on bearing grudges at home and abroad.)
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To: 3AngelaD
The Turkish government has spent millions of dollars on lobbying against the resolution

Then the Turks must be fools. 1) A similar resolution was passed in 1975 2) Who the hell cares about a non binding resolution from the idiots in the US Congress? Get a life.

Pelosi's an idiot for doing this, but the Turks are idiots for caring.

15 posted on 10/17/2007 7:12:13 AM PDT by Huck (Soylent Green is People.)
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

“all eight living former secretaries of state and three former defense secretaries warned Pelosi that the resolution would endanger national security in the Middle East... And she still pursued it.”

America’s security is to Mrs. Pelosi as capital is to moneylenders. She sees the necessity of maintaining a minimum level of security to protect and maintain vital interests, but she also sees our security a a tool or asset to be managed, leveraged, risked, and bargained with, for her own personal gain.


16 posted on 10/17/2007 7:38:20 AM PDT by flowerplough ("Ferret's Elf", by Stephan Pastis)
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To: 3AngelaD

I am a gigantic fan of the Federalist Papers and Madison’s ideas on factionalism. Its nice to see someone else is familiar with these principles.


17 posted on 10/17/2007 7:56:35 AM PDT by ChinaThreat (s)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

The damage is already done. They need to hold Nancy the Nazi’s feet to the fire on this. She has already done an immense amount of damage to our war cause.


18 posted on 10/17/2007 7:58:21 AM PDT by ChinaThreat (s)
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To: ChinaThreat

Nancy has already done an immense amount of damage to our war cause, and she’s now helped drive the price of oil to record highs, just when we need to buy heating fuel.


19 posted on 10/17/2007 8:52:41 AM PDT by flowerplough ("Ferret's Elf", by Stephan Pastis)
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To: Huck

If there was a resolution saying OUR troops caused Genocide in Iraq, I’d sure as H*ll give a da*n.

It depends on the situation.

And, if this resolution was already passed in 1975, it should never have had to be passed again! EVER.
(I didn’t go look it up, so I’m not confirming it ever was.)

Things like this DO matter. It’s a slap in the face. And young men and women die, and that matters. It’s REAL~

But something that happened a CENTURY ago, should have been left alone.

Are we going to keep rehashing what happened to the American Indians?

The President was right when he said “With all the pressing responsibilities facing the nation, One thing Congress should not be doing is sorting out the historical record of the Ottoman Empire,” he told a White House news conference.

Here is a link to that article and another link regarding what is just now unfolding. In this house, we just hope
for the sake of our cause and that of Iraq that it’s not to
late!

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8SB5ID00&show_article=1

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/17/washington/17cnd-cong.html?ei=5065&en=20af3ab48140086a&ex=1193198400&partner=MYWAY&pagewanted=print


20 posted on 10/17/2007 12:36:27 PM PDT by Vets_Husband_and_Wife (We stand firm with the President and the troops, We never waver. We don't support terrorists!)
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