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Medieval Women 'Had Girl Power'
BBC ^ | 9-11-2007

Posted on 09/11/2007 8:28:04 AM PDT by blam

Medieval women 'had girl power'

Books, songs and legal documents were studied

A new study by an academic says that "girl power" was alive and kicking around 600 years ago. Dr Sue Niebrzydowski at Bangor university said medieval women enjoyed a golden era with a greater life expectancy than men.

"We found women running priories, commissioning books, taking early package tours to visit the Holy Land," she said.

She added women were also defending their property and property rights.

Dr Niebrzydowski's research involving middle aged women in the middle ages will be discussed at a conference at the university on Wednesday.

The medievalist at Bangor's Institute of Early and Modern Studies, studied legal records, literature and songs to build up a picture of life for women between the 12th and 15th Centuries.

Dr Niebrzydowski, whose research is funded by the Royal Historical Society and the British Academy, said: "Women were often widowed by the age of 30 and it gave them greater freedom.

"They could be more sexually liberated as there would be no child as evidence of their fornication or adultery.

'Misconceptions'

"And if wealthy, they could enter the marriage market on their own terms - and for their own reasons, whether economic, for love, companionship or pleasure."

The study's findings will be explored on Wednesday at a conference in Bangor, attended by some of Britain's top female academics in the fields of archaeology, history, language and law.

Dr Niebrzydowski said: "We assume that women in the past had little economic independence or social power and that they were reliant on fathers or husbands for most of their lives.

"But we should be wary of holding too many misconceptions about women's lives in the past.

"It is true that most of the information we have is drawn from art, literature or historical records which relate to wealthier women, but middle aged women in the middle ages had far more power and independence than we might first imagine."

The conference, which runs until Friday, will bring together experts in literature, archaeology, art and history.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: anachronisms; ggg; girl; godsgravesglyphs; medieval; power; revisionism; women
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1 posted on 09/11/2007 8:28:09 AM PDT by blam
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To: SunkenCiv

GGG Ping.


2 posted on 09/11/2007 8:28:56 AM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: blam

yikes...kinda looks like Mad Max Waters


3 posted on 09/11/2007 8:30:25 AM PDT by stylin19a (Go Bears !)
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To: blam

Only in England - the rest of Europe wasn’t so enlightened.


4 posted on 09/11/2007 8:31:54 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: stylin19a

Ya, woman ruled in the past (ya right)


5 posted on 09/11/2007 8:31:59 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: blam
There are exaggerations here, obviously. But women in the High Middle Ages did indeed enjoy the right to own property and to contract marriages on their own behalf.

They also were able to enjoy political and ecclesiastical authority and to build and run business ventures.

In the High Middle Ages, the Catholic Church was pretty much the only game in town theologically - yet feminists despise the Church.

6 posted on 09/11/2007 8:33:38 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: blam

Things were a little different in the Islamic World then... and now too.


7 posted on 09/11/2007 8:33:46 AM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: blam

Women have always ruled — one way or another.


8 posted on 09/11/2007 8:36:27 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Crom! Non-Sequitur = Pee Wee Herman.)
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To: wideawake

I am reading a fine biography of Eleanor of Aquitaine. She was once the biggest landowner in all of Europe! She owned about a third of France at one time.


9 posted on 09/11/2007 8:37:31 AM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (Remember the Pentagon - - www.pentagonmemorial.net)
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To: blam
I swear the feminists have convinced everyone that prior to about 1960, all women were barefoot, pregnant, in the kitchen, and virtually slaves. Unable to hold jobs, unable to leave troubled marriages, unable to go to college, ignorant about family finances, those women had been oppressed for thousands of years!

The reality is quite different.

10 posted on 09/11/2007 8:41:33 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The broken wall, the burning roof and tower. And Agamemnon dead.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

that’s the way most in the middle east would like to keep it


11 posted on 09/11/2007 8:43:45 AM PDT by RDTF (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, but Democrats believe every day is April 15th. - Reagan)
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To: Lee'sGhost

Yup. They’ve had the power since before humans walked upright. It’s in their jeans.


12 posted on 09/11/2007 9:00:11 AM PDT by live+let_live
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To: live+let_live

Oops, I mean GENES.


13 posted on 09/11/2007 9:01:09 AM PDT by live+let_live
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To: blam

This is so true as to be obvious. Women had a great deal of power and influence in the middle ages. Abbesses and Pioresses and female saints were highly influential in the Catholic Church.

The influence of women was greatly reduced by the Renaissance and Reformation—you can take your pick as to which of these intertwined movements was most responsible.

Of course, to call it “girl power” is an anachronism. Back in those days, it was thought important to mature and grow up. You didn’t find people remaining adolescent into their 50s and 60s the way you do today. To say that there were powerful and influential women, not girls, would be more accurate.


14 posted on 09/11/2007 9:07:22 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: live+let_live

Freudian slip?


15 posted on 09/11/2007 9:08:04 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: blam

Really? I was under the impression that the upper classes bartered their women like cattle.


16 posted on 09/11/2007 9:11:10 AM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: blam
girl power

I can't see that phrase without hearing Mr./Ms. Garrison shouting, "Who wants to pound my v-----!"

17 posted on 09/11/2007 9:12:42 AM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: HungarianGypsy
I was under the impression that the upper classes bartered their women like cattle.

Sometimes, especially with young girls. However, many wealthy women, whether widows or heiresses, took control of their own property and were quite independent.

Eleanor of Acquitaine is a good example, and she was an example for other women of her time: educated, cultured, and politically aspiring. Of course, sometimes it worked out and sometimes it didn't; Eleanor was under house arrest for a dozen years in her late middle-age.

An excellent source on this subject is Women in the Age of the Cathedrals, by Regine Pernoud.

18 posted on 09/11/2007 9:17:35 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("Says the text so divine, 'What is life without wine?' ")
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To: Tax-chick

Thank you. I must look that up to add to my medieval books collection. I have a “Reader”that has many original documents. Those on women were very sexist.

A favorite book I have is a day planner that was never used which is full of Romance writings (I call it my “dirty book.”) People think we’re obsessed with sex. They were, too. It was just more literary. I blushed while reading some of the poems.


19 posted on 09/11/2007 9:24:31 AM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: Cicero
Freudian slip?

Definitely.

20 posted on 09/11/2007 9:36:55 AM PDT by tlj18 (Keep your eye on China....)
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