Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
Since when did you believe anything a pro-rudy person posted? :-)
“Giuliani’s liberal positions and utter contempt for the constitution, individual rights, the rule of law, national security, national sovereignty, etc, disqualifies him from any consideration for the presidency,”
Stealing that for my next tagline lol.
If you examine the picture closely, you’ll see that abortion and closely related issues are indeed the key division with in the Republican Party. This may not be YOUR key issue — I didn’t say it was everybody’s — but it is most certainly the key dividing line. If you look at FR threads regarding potential Presidential candidates, they are always heavy on posts like “He’s pro-abort and I’ll never vote for a pro-abort”. This is a VERY frequent comment when Condi Rice’s name comes up, despite her ample conservative credentials. That the first black President could also be the first female President AND support the real Second Amendment is a breathtaking possibility, with major implications for the future political landscape in the US — devastating the general perception in the electorate that the Democratic Party is the party that’s “for” women and blacks, shifting many blacks and women into the RKBA camp who’d never before had any reason to seriously consider making that shift, and greatly weakening the the popular Democratic/Socialist refrain that US blacks are disproportionately poor and crime-prone because they were “oppressed” (hard to prevent black people who’ve bought into that from considering that if Condi was oppressed — which she clearly was — and didn’t let it hold her back, they can too). But a huge percentage of FReepers don’t give a crap about any of that, because she’s “a pro-abort” and they don’t need to know anything else about her to know they’d never vote for her. The colossal amount of time and energy our elected representatives are spending yakking about abortion, morming after pills, embryonic stem cell research, and of course the other pet issue of the same camp of the Republican Party, gay marriage, is all a very convenient distraction, which enables the socialists — both Democrat and Republican — to keep on piling up new government spending and wealth redistribution schemes without any noisy opposition. Most of the potential noisemakers are too busy putting on a show for their constituents of trying to get full citizenship rights for zygotes, and of trying to prevent Jim and Joe from ever getting a marriage license, to bother much with the details of the ever-growing tax-spend-redistribute monster.
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Forum Question of the Night
Whose creepier?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1821435/posts?page=1059#1059
You are doing a great job defending you positions from the rudy haters.
Duncan Hunter.
Somehow I doubt it.
“I don’t sink to your level of discourse.”
After reading your tag line, I would say that statement is an ‘oxymoron’.
“Lets see a link and Ill believe you.”
No. You run and fetch! Its been posted dozens of times refuting Rooty suports the flat tax. I wont bother posting it again for someone that refuses to read things when they are posted.
AC—I dug up some of the original quotes by Reagan at the time the abortion bill passed in 1967 when he was governor of California. He was anything but liberal. Unfortunately, the law was interpreted over time much more liberally than it was intended. See my post for some of his quotes:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1818293/posts?page=114#114
Jefferson had fifty male relatives in the state of Virginia, any of whom could have been the father. We essentially went from no chance to a 2% chance. I don’t take odds on a 2% chance.
If they learned their lesson they would not be trying to so hard to alienate the conservative base.....again. Oh and they aren’t my sit at homers. You see, there are alot like me, who didn’t sit at home but didn’t vote for the those we were told we should “because they can win’. Some of us actually do vote FOR our values rather than bandwagon style.
If a lesson was learned, ‘Republicans’ wouldn’t be so eager for a New York-New York Presidential race. While this would be a slap in the face to Al Qaeda, it is a slap in the face to Americans as well. To me, it isn’t worth it.
The most valid criticism, imho, of GWB is his lack of serious action securing our borders. Do you think Rudy will do anything different? Hardly.
“Sweetie’s one thing, calling me Hillary is another. Discussion is obviously over, as I don’t sink to your level of discourse”
1. This from the person that insults the owner of the site.
2. Are you delusional? nobody called you Hillary.
I agree with you. That is a very good analogy.
“This is just so precious. A perfect example of the kind of sh*tty attitude JR is seeking to eliminate, IMO”
My opinion too!
so exactly when was it that a conservative got any movement and is fred thompson a conservative ?
Thank you, staytrue.
I would be right on board with you if it weren't for one thing... Hillary. I'm sorry, but I'd vote for Gore before I let her get into office. Rudy bothers me on several issues, but HC scares the crap out of me.
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