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Grapes, milk, fish guts: Vintners may have to label allergens (Nanny state alert)
AP via/The Press Democrat/The Lompoc Record ^ | January 15, 2007 | AP

Posted on 01/15/2007 9:11:04 PM PST by quantim

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Yes, the nanny state is protecting us by repeating the mantra.

At least the 'caps lock' wasn't on.

1 posted on 01/15/2007 9:11:06 PM PST by quantim
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To: tubebender; NautiNurse; Amerigomag; andrew2527; AnAmericanMother; A Jovial Cad; Awgie; babaloo; ...
Click to be +/- on this low volume wine ping list.

Oenology egg white fining news ping.

2 posted on 01/15/2007 9:19:43 PM PST by quantim (Carcinoma Senatorus = Incurable cancer causing senators to think they're Presidential material.)
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Food allergies affected 2 percent to 5 percent of children...Her 4-year-old son is allergic to eggs, and her 7-year-old daughter is allergic to peanuts.

Why in the world does this article cite children's allergies? Last time I checked, the minimum age for consuming alcohol is 21 in the US.

3 posted on 01/15/2007 9:58:36 PM PST by NautiNurse (Action speaks louder than words but not nearly as often.)
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I would support this IF any of the filtering agents remained in the wine, but they don't!

By the way, the traditional, old-school long-banned but non-necessarily forgotten filter is bull's blood. Some top French vitners still use it, even though they face steep fines and penalties, because it simply works better than any of the alternatives.

4 posted on 01/15/2007 11:12:51 PM PST by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heie)
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By the way, the traditional, old-school long-banned but non-necessarily forgotten filter is bull's blood. Some top French vitners still use it, even though they face steep fines and penalties, because it simply works better than any of the alternatives.

How about the sulfuric acid used in French wines, either from a bottle or by burning chunks of sulfur on sticks inside the barrels?

5 posted on 01/15/2007 11:29:17 PM PST by Cementjungle
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If people let government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny.

Thomas Jefferson


6 posted on 01/15/2007 11:58:11 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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yea cause nobody has food allergies right? Try to feed a kid with multiple allergies then tell me this is a solution with no problem..


7 posted on 01/16/2007 12:02:55 AM PST by N3WBI3 ("Help me out here guys: What do you do with someone who wont put up or shut up?" - N3WBI3)
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and if you cook with wine?


8 posted on 01/16/2007 12:03:36 AM PST by N3WBI3 ("Help me out here guys: What do you do with someone who wont put up or shut up?" - N3WBI3)
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nobody is saying what people can or should eat, were talking about allergies here!


9 posted on 01/16/2007 12:04:47 AM PST by N3WBI3 ("Help me out here guys: What do you do with someone who wont put up or shut up?" - N3WBI3)
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I'm deathly allergic to celery and highly allergic to carrots and rye bread. I don't have to read the labels - if in doubt, I just don't eat the food.


10 posted on 01/16/2007 12:08:30 AM PST by peggybac (Tolerance is the virtue of believing in nothing)
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From the article:
Vintners have been using byproducts from milk, eggs, wheat and even fish guts in the winemaking processes for centuries.(emphasis mine)

And just to think, the elites call uncouth and look down their noses at folks like me who prefer beer.

"Fining" agent indeed. (shaking my head)
11 posted on 01/16/2007 2:21:53 AM PST by dbehsman (Libertarians make poor Humanitarians.)
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"Rogers, who is allergic to eggs, said she would notice reactions whenever she tipped a glass of wine."

True... She would seductively strip, pull me into bed, throw her feet into the air and start screaming in delight...

Semper Fi

12 posted on 01/16/2007 4:04:56 AM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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She would seductively strip, pull me into bed, throw her feet into the air and start screaming in delight...

You too, eh?

L

13 posted on 01/16/2007 4:09:39 AM PST by Lurker (Europeans killed 6 million Jews. As a reward they got 40 million Moslems. Karma's a bitch.)
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You know we got some people who can't take care of themselves, so they need the government to look after them. There's one of them on this thread.


14 posted on 01/16/2007 4:32:22 AM PST by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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I have used isinglass ie fish guts in all my home brews with great success. It binds with the particles in suspension and falls to the bottom. I siphon off the top and get good clear beer. It's all good.


15 posted on 01/16/2007 4:59:03 AM PST by doodad
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Labeling foods with their contents is NOT telling people what to eat. It is informing people what is in a food so they can CHOOSE what to eat.

As someone who reacts very unpleasantly to casein, gluten and corn, I am very grateful when companies list whether or not these things are in their products. And yes, as noted in the article about that one lady, some of us do react to traces of these things. I have to avoid things like vanilla extract because of its base being grain alcohol.

If companies don't label their products, we tend to assume they are free of our allergens. But once we've been burned, we realize that many packaged items may contain our allergens whether they say so or not. We either have to jump through a bunch of hoops to call the company and then choose whether to believe them when they say their product is allergen free, OR avoid the product altogether.

You should be happy that a company that sells you food to eat is required to tell you what is in your food so that you can make an informed choice.


16 posted on 01/16/2007 5:14:40 AM PST by TruthSetsUFree
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And what about Eggs? it can be listed fifteen different ways and is in many things you would not expect (parmasian cheese that you might put on spaghetti?)
What about things manufactured on the same equipment as something like peanuts?
17 posted on 01/16/2007 6:27:42 AM PST by N3WBI3 ("Help me out here guys: What do you do with someone who wont put up or shut up?" - N3WBI3)
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To: quantim; Gabz

Ping to Gabz for her 'Nanny State' list.


18 posted on 01/16/2007 7:00:54 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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Wouldn't bull's blood make the wine non-Kosher?


19 posted on 01/16/2007 7:28:02 AM PST by From many - one.
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Wouldn't bull's blood make the wine non-Kosher?

I haven't read rabinical opinions of this, I would assume so, but note that bull's blood doesn't actually remain in the wine --- it binds with foul-tasting toxins disolved in the wine and sinks to the bottom, where it is entirely filtered out. If anybody's consuming any blood at all, it's only a microscopic portion.

20 posted on 01/16/2007 7:35:07 AM PST by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heie)
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