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Tests show traces of C4 at Port of Miami..FOX BREAKING
Me | 1/7/07 | georgiadawg32

Posted on 01/08/2007 11:38:45 AM PST by GeorgiaDawg32

Breaking..suspicious device at port of miami..


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: c4; compositionc; dubai; dubaiportsdeal; miami; petn; plasticexplosive; rdx; security; wot
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To: CDHart

...and the conspiracy theorists would have more to go on.

As it is, don't forget a plane hit the Pentagon and also disintegrated in rural PA.


301 posted on 01/08/2007 12:54:17 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: CDHart
I believe that if only one plane had gone into the WTC, we would still be being told that it was an accident.

You are right.

302 posted on 01/08/2007 12:54:20 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: sageb1

LOL that's a good one!


303 posted on 01/08/2007 12:54:41 PM PST by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: mewzilla

News of the Day:

Downtown Austin reopens after dead birds found
Coast Guard: Explosives detected at Port of Miami
Plume of smoke causes concern in Sugar Land
Gas-like odor permeates parts of New York City


Nothing to see here, move along now...


305 posted on 01/08/2007 12:55:00 PM PST by Deo volente
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To: Chena
Thanks, Chena. News conference means.."nothing here, let's move on"..

sw

306 posted on 01/08/2007 12:55:15 PM PST by spectre (Spectre's wife ("One Nation, One Standard")
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To: RegulatorCountry
A pound of C-4 plastic explosive was enough to blow up Pan Am Flight 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland. It's no minor thing.

Well........ 

I'm pretty sure it was less than a pound of plastic explosives used in the Lockerbie Pan Am bombing and the tests of the "shoe bomb" type device on a grounded and out of commission 747 in the "airplane graveyard" showed that only a few ounces could destroy an airplane.  The thing is Airplanes in flight will rip themselves apart with very little loss of structural integrity due to the stresses involved, if it's in the right place.  Also, regardless of the amount, it wasn't C4 that was used in Lockerbie, it was Semtex, so comparisons are going to be off in any event.  However, plastique is plastique and they all go boom and should all be taken seriously.

A cruise ship is a different type of beast built in an entirely different manner.  Though a pound of C4 ("enough to destroy a diesel locomotive," according to things I've seen) would damage a cruise ship and could, if it was placed in exactly the right place, do considerable, even fatal damage to a ship of this size, it's far more likely that any such device would be used to terrorize, not actually sink the ship.  The scariest thing would be if such a device could be placed where it would start a serious fire.  Fire is the biggest risk to a cruise ship under most circumstances. 

I don't know if you remember the ship that had a serious fire in their laundry within sight of the port of Miami a few years ago.  It was originally a relatively small fire but it ended up gutting about 10% of the ship and threatening the engine room (and lots more damage) before they could get it contained.

As I typed this the cable news folks have said that the "officials" are saying it was all about nothing (move along, move along, nothing to see here), even though they ended up blowing the thing up themselves with their own detonators.

In my mind this and the incident yesterday are clearly meant as tests of security at this port by the jihadists, to see what they can get away with.  This is a bad sign.

307 posted on 01/08/2007 12:55:21 PM PST by Phsstpok (Often wrong, but never in doubt)
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To: spectre
Why are they sending the kids home? Last I heard, no one is supposed to go outside?

Likely because the initial cloud of the released chemical has dissipated, but they are being cautious because the leaking (or appears to now be formerly leaking) tanker truck is still being hosed down. The initial threat is over, but better to get the kids out of there in case something goes wrong and there is a later problem with that truck. That would be my guess on why any school might be let out versus a shelter in place.

Note how the tape of the initial release cloud (which appears to have been blown away and can't be seen now) showed that it was already gone from the tank truck at the plant, the cloud appeared to have drifted away from the plant (and that was a half hour ago.)

308 posted on 01/08/2007 12:55:28 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat (An easy 10-team playoff based on the BCS bowls can be implemented by next year. See my homepage.)
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To: terrytyson2007

I didn't realize it was all grackles. I was kind of worried about it, because they all talk about it like it's a bad thing. If they've finally found a way to kill off the grackles en masse, more power to'em. NASTY birds.


309 posted on 01/08/2007 12:55:30 PM PST by ichabod1 (After the attacks of 9/11, profiling Muslims is more like profiling the Klan.)
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To: Chena

Electronic Trace Detection (ETD) gives a reading with the specific explosives detected. It uses a swab to collect particles and tests for explosive residue; the machines are commonly used at airports. The results are specific, but are prone to false positives.


310 posted on 01/08/2007 12:55:30 PM PST by xjcsa (Ecotards annoy me.)
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To: CindyDawg

This time of year we have all the birds down here that migrated from up north. Soon they'll start migrating back and then we get different species coming through at different times, but winter is always the busy season for bird activity.


311 posted on 01/08/2007 12:56:44 PM PST by ichabod1 (After the attacks of 9/11, profiling Muslims is more like profiling the Klan.)
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To: JoeBrooks

Don'tcha know, the Democrats are now in office...no wonder all these "coincidental" things are happening.

I'm a bit worried...:O


312 posted on 01/08/2007 12:56:53 PM PST by Lucky9teen (You can discover more about a person in an hour of play than in a year of conversation.)
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To: Lizarde
And to think I threw out all my Christmas cookies and candy the other day...just damn!

sw

313 posted on 01/08/2007 12:57:05 PM PST by spectre (Spectre's wife ("One Nation, One Standard")
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To: Lizarde

LOL!

Shep is talking now. He's such an idiot! Other stations reported why there was only a puff of smoke when they detonated the package. That's because they only wanted to open the package, not detonate it. Shep thinks that because there was only a small puff of smoke that there must be nothing in it.


314 posted on 01/08/2007 12:57:24 PM PST by Chena
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To: Deo volente
Nothing to see here, move along now...

Thanks..I feel better now. LOL

315 posted on 01/08/2007 12:57:29 PM PST by Fawn (NEVER GO TO 'APPLIANCE KING' IN BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA--THEY SCAM YOU!!!)
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To: Deaf Smith
Could we invite them to Winter at your house or business?

Not all of them, I'd run out of food! I do feed some Grackles in the back yard, Mr. LL has threatened me with my life if I don't stop..

316 posted on 01/08/2007 12:57:40 PM PST by Last Laugh (We the People are in charge, so let's act like it!)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
Here is the latest story on FR.

Downtown Austin shut down after bird deaths

I posted an earlier thread here A strange discovery this morning in downtown Austin. (TX)

317 posted on 01/08/2007 12:57:42 PM PST by Arrowhead1952 (The terrorists have many allies in the United States, especially in the democrat party.)
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To: spectre

Prolly. ;)

But I haven't heard anyone report that the robot has finished checking out the package now that it's been opened.


318 posted on 01/08/2007 12:58:09 PM PST by Chena
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To: mewzilla

Shelter-in-place...that would be the plastic and duct tape the libs made fun of, wouldn't it?


319 posted on 01/08/2007 12:58:10 PM PST by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
Well, what a mighty fine job the Miami Port authorities have done. They have caught 1 out of a 1000 of the trucks with dissenters who plan to blow the U.S. to pieces. And that's not counting the border jumpers who disguise themselves as Mexicans, complete with the correct language...

I think this is unwarranted. A far as I know, every port in the US is open to the same sort of mischief. At least they caught this one, and people nearby haven't come to harm. Please try to keep in perspective.

320 posted on 01/08/2007 12:58:19 PM PST by EarthBound (Ex Deo, gratia. Ex astris, scientia)
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