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Hawkish Gloom
NRO ^ | August 08, 2006, 5:31 a.m. | Stanley Kurtz

Posted on 08/09/2006 10:12:16 AM PDT by isaiah55version11_0

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Yikes....

Where is the good ol Reagan optimism when you need it?

1 posted on 08/09/2006 10:12:17 AM PDT by isaiah55version11_0
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"The horror....the horror!"

2 posted on 08/09/2006 10:15:07 AM PDT by dfwgator
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Good gosh, buck up man. The nation has faced and overcome tougher times and adversaries than these and prevailed.


3 posted on 08/09/2006 10:17:05 AM PDT by MikeA (Not voting out of anger in November is a vote for Nancy Pelosi as Speaker of the House)
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Good grief. Doom and gloom. He must spend too much time reading the NY Times.


4 posted on 08/09/2006 10:17:52 AM PDT by pissant
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Yet our domestic divisions, and our inability to pacify Iraq have largely (although not, I believe, entirely) canceled out the deterrent message of the invasion.

A very blunt and honest analysis. It seems correct to conclude that the momentum and resolve of the US in the war on terror has waned since we toppled Saddam. Truth be told, I think Bush has gone limp on the entire effort.

5 posted on 08/09/2006 10:18:43 AM PDT by My2Cents (A pirate's life for me.)
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While an optimist, Reagan was also a realist.

He knoew the only way to defeat International Communism was through power. However, THAT foe was relatively reasonable and held a worldview of generally peaceful coexistence. Mostly the Russians just wanted what we all want, peace and freedom to enjoy life and family.

Our new enemy wants nothing less than our subservience or our death.

6 posted on 08/09/2006 10:20:02 AM PDT by Mariner
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To: pissant

Gloom, despair and agony on me
Deep, dark depression
Excessive misery
If it weren't for bad luck
I'd have no luck at all
Gloom, despair and agony on me


7 posted on 08/09/2006 10:20:03 AM PDT by dfwgator
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Couple of months back, a poll was released showing that republicans were more likely to be afraid of terrorism and I thought that was utter nonsense. Now, if Kerry had won in 2004, then you better believe I'd be afraid, but with the right(no pun, I swear) guys in office I believe there is nothing to fear. Looks like the pollsters must have gotten hold of a couple of sissies like this guy.


8 posted on 08/09/2006 10:20:44 AM PDT by NYCynic
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To: dfwgator

I think I'm gonna kill myself
Try a little suicide
Stick around for a couple of days
What a tragedy if I died


9 posted on 08/09/2006 10:24:34 AM PDT by pissant
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We're all gonna die!!!!

10 posted on 08/09/2006 10:25:07 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Islam is a perversion of faith, a lie against human spirit, an obscenity shouted in the face of G_d)
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That sounds like every song Morrissey ever sang.


11 posted on 08/09/2006 10:25:07 AM PDT by dfwgator
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More hysteric whining and hand wringing for the Know Nothings. Would be nice if they are going to waste our time they at LEAST have a grasp of reality.

Counter Terrorism is NOT Conventional Military Operations. To try and force the 1st into the form of the 2nd is idiotic. "Gloomy Hawk" Panic stricken Chicken Sh%^ would be more accurate
12 posted on 08/09/2006 10:27:55 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (A proportionate response would be the indiscriminate slaughter of Western journalists)
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Yikes indeed. How about this quote from NRO's The Corner by everyone's favorite Squidward, I mean pessimist, John Derbyshire (posted 8/9/06):

Stanley Kurtz ROCKS. If you didn't read his "Hawkish Gloom" piece on yesterday's NRO (from which all the above quotes are taken), go read it now. Then, read it again. Read the links too.

Stanley's notion of the Israelization of the West — the slow change of opinion here from deep dove-hawk, lib-con differences to a glum, grim, pessimistic consensus, is spot on.

I only wonder — as of course I would — if Stanley is gloomy enough. There is a nightmare here, lurking just out of sight behind all the thoughts and articles of the gloomy-cons. The nightmare is so appalling to any civilized person I cannot bring myself to mention it. I'll just call it the g-word. Us or them. Please may it not come to that. I need a cup of coffee.

It's coming up on five years since 9/11: Iran, Syria, and North Korea are still out there. Lots of people want to see the U.S. fail. It could be a long, hard war for years to come.

13 posted on 08/09/2006 10:28:00 AM PDT by Tancred
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Where is the good ol Reagan optimism when you need it?

Reagan 'optimism' decided to get out of Lebanon.

The best thing to be said about Lebanon since is that it hasn't been our troops in the middle of that mess, let's keep it that way.

14 posted on 08/09/2006 10:28:07 AM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: My2Cents

A very absurd hysteric analysis by a panic striken chicken know nothing.


15 posted on 08/09/2006 10:29:15 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (A proportionate response would be the indiscriminate slaughter of Western journalists)
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"As such, it is unlikely to be bombed out of existence."

Wrong.

One simply has to bomb until one has killed a massive portion of the Lebanese people. They are very hard headed, but if they are dead, they will no longer be a problem for us or Israel. If our positions were reversed, they would kill all of us in a heartbeat, therefore, we need to be at least as ruthless as they are to defeat them.
16 posted on 08/09/2006 10:30:37 AM PDT by Ninian Dryhope ("Bush lied, people dyed. Their fingers." The inestimable Mark Steyn)
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Nice you have feelings. Such a pity that feelings are not facts.

Did any of the Always Whining EVEN for a second even bother to consider that MOST of the people fighting and dying ON OUR SIDE in the War are Muslims? These hysteric Patton wannabees would make all those current allies enemies. That would be an utterly stupid self defeating strategy

17 posted on 08/09/2006 10:31:50 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (A proportionate response would be the indiscriminate slaughter of Western journalists)
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When you hear their words that they will not give up the right until the world turns to Islam, you know it is not going to be easy.


18 posted on 08/09/2006 10:32:31 AM PDT by mel
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"The West is on a collision course with Iran."

The West, or at least the non-decadent part of it, the USA, is on a collision course with militant Islam. If we do not wipe them out, they will enslave us.
19 posted on 08/09/2006 10:35:42 AM PDT by Ninian Dryhope ("Bush lied, people dyed. Their fingers." The inestimable Mark Steyn)
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Did any of the Always Whining EVEN for a second even bother to consider that MOST of the people fighting and dying ON OUR SIDE in the War are Muslims?

Yes, but are we killing them faster than they can replace themselves. How many children do you have or are planning to have?

20 posted on 08/09/2006 10:37:08 AM PDT by isaiah55version11_0 (For His Glory)
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